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02-06-2014, 01:33 PM
I also don't get it either.
Again beyond rampant entitlement due to wealth in the USA.... What exactly has been lost.
Hell I think the guy trying to jump borders to get here is more American than the dude complaining on the Internet about fat bitches in flip flops. I already admit if I was poor in a shit country I would be trying to get access. Because they have no other choice. Cast system in India is another great example if I was at the bottom well fuck me better try and leave. Not sayin we should just let all these people in but the reaction the individual makes is an intelligent one. I would do the exact same, I am not going down without a fight no Fucking way you're stomping on me without literally killing me. I'm gonna try.
To me American culture = grind and do everything you can to reach your potential. As it stands, you are able to do this here. The number of poor to rich people I know is staggering. The number of middle class stay middle class is also staggering. I don't find this to be a coincidence.
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02-06-2014, 01:37 PM
There's also the issue with the US being a very young country that has seen an abundance of changes from a cultural and technological standpoint in the past 50-100 years. Unfortunately, some things have evolved for the worse (fatties & flats) but all you can do is adapt & survive instead of yearning for say a decade that is long gone.
Whether one likes it or not, the only constant is that nothing has or will continue to stay the same.
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02-06-2014, 01:41 PM
All or Nothing: If you honestly don't think there are any genetic racial differences between Mestizos, Whites and Arabs then we have nothing to talk about. That's about as ludicrous as claiming that gender is a social construct. That doesn't mean that I think that members of any one group are better than another, just that they are different, and pretending otherwise is simply willful denial of reality, in the same way that feminists willfully deny reality by arguing that women are the same as men minus the dick.
WWT: Look at American culture circa 1900 - 1950, before the sexual revolution, mass immigration, feminism, multiculturalism and other destructive influences came about. Is the decline of American culture due entirely to immigration? Of course not. But immigration is a large part of the problem, simply because it encourages both actively and passively the idea that the existing culture is not worth protecting.
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02-06-2014, 01:47 PM
Quote: (02-06-2014 01:45 PM)soup Wrote:
Quote: (02-06-2014 01:41 PM)scorpion Wrote:
Is the decline of American culture due entirely to immigration? Of course not. But immigration is a large part of the problem, simply because it encourages both actively and passively the idea that the existing culture is not worth protecting.
I'd bet the people who were living on this continent before the pilgrims came would agree with this statement very strongly.
Very true. Ask Native Americans how well unrestricted immigration by foreigners into their homeland worked out for them.
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02-06-2014, 01:49 PM
Yeah I don't get it at all. I am not losing anything here.
Bring the smart people in win win to me.
What culture are we protecting? As technology expands and influences the world more and more chicks will become more like the entitled ones here that's the name of the game.
Immigration/worried about border hoppers is a non-concern to me.
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The naive american comment is comical. So you just stated the USA was built on massive immigration of the strongest and that resulted in the strongest country in history... So by that logic we should continue to bring in the best so we remain the best?
Am I missing something?
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02-06-2014, 01:54 PM
^ yep bring in the best to remain the best.
Trying to protect never works. Grow the talent base always.
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02-06-2014, 02:05 PM
I don't have time to reply to all of you guys individually, I'm procrastinating on some work I need to get done as it is. My general point is simply that large scale immigration will destroy an existing culture and population over time. That's basically the entire story of history. And I reject the view that it is somehow impractical or even immoral for a country to want to preserve its existing population and culture. I don't find the idea of a global mono-culture desirable, I would rather live in a diverse world with distinct people, cultures and countries.
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02-06-2014, 02:08 PM
^ alright well you have basically proven the point. Bringing in best and brightest (immigration) causes the country to become powerful.
If people believe they can create power without change they are insane. The whole point of power is to have an edge, ie be different and ahead
If you don't bring them in well, they are coming for you anyway ie: how the USA was formed so better to play offense.
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02-06-2014, 02:10 PM
^ exactly.
This is already happening, other countries look to the USA as the leader in culture music etc.
More likely than not you'll see American culture spread than not... So better get in the winning side of the equation
After coming back from Mexico a girl asked me for my "snapchat"... At that point you have to realize what is going on.
Bring in the talent or get run over.
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02-06-2014, 02:16 PM
Roosh has written about how he sees American culture starting to get it's grips on more well behaved women in European countries. The rest of the world should be more worried about that ad than the Americans who are complaining.
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02-06-2014, 02:18 PM
^ glad you guys get it.
You're not going to stop technological advancements and people creating and growing new products and services.
We're not going to be living in the 50s ever again so you better get your ducks in a row.
In 10 years don't be surprised if every chick in Poland or insert pussy paradise has her iphone linked up to snap chat, Instagram, vine, etc.
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02-06-2014, 02:33 PM
Ok then does it strike anyone here as hypocritical for land stealers to complain about other people trying to steal "their" land?
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02-06-2014, 02:35 PM
Again I fear more the loss of power.
I will choose changes in "culture" any day of the week because cultures always evolve and change. You can't prevent technological innovation or women's hypergamy.
Soo you should really realize the following
1. Other countries will adopt American ways
2. Better to be the leader than behind the pack
Women are just women and will do whatever their environment allows, the USA is showing you what places like EE and SA will be like in a couple decades. Adapt or complain, the choice is yours it's happening people
All that said I still don't know what culture I am trying to protect. Based on many posts and interactions around here I actually have more in common with the border jumping insane workaholic.