[pitt]

What do you mean by wallet kills Romeo Palo alto?

[Palo_alto]

It basically means that your wealth will play a more significant role in gaming lizards than your actual game.

Example: Rich guy game v/s regular guy game. Regular guy game might be thighter, but in the end wealth plays a bigger role if you ask me.

Rich beta´s do not apply here.

[blck]

(02-09-2016 11:34 AM)Palo_alto Wrote:  

It basically means that your wealth will play a more significant role in gaming lizards than your actual game.

Example: Rich guy game v/s regular guy game. Regular guy game might be thighter, but in the end wealth plays a bigger role if you ask me.

Rich beta´s do not apply here.

[Silver_Tube]

I was reading "Bang" in late 2012 ish. What really got me over my anxiety to approach was the part where he asks the reader to imagine the worst things that could possibly happen. Those things had already happened to me in DC at that point anyway so I figured I had nothing to lose and went on one of those kamikaze nights where I just said whatever I felt like without regard to the consequences.

By the end of the night I was convinced that it didn't matter much what you say to them, if they like you you can say whatever you like, if they dont like you then nothing you can say will work. I had more luck in my approaches when I stepped out of my regular personality and acted obnoxiously. I'd like to think I've calibrated it a bit better now.

[JayJuanGee]

(02-09-2016 12:53 PM)blck Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 11:34 AM)Palo_alto Wrote:  

It basically means that your wealth will play a more significant role in gaming lizards than your actual game.

Example: Rich guy game v/s regular guy game. Regular guy game might be thighter, but in the end wealth plays a bigger role if you ask me.

Rich beta´s do not apply here.

Yeah, but there is some truth to it.


Surely, we do not want to get caught up with fatalism or shit that we cannot control directly; however, we should all recognize various obstacles and that there are a variety of factors affecting our gaming success or our bargaining power or from where we are starting.

age
good looks
wealth
social circle

Some of these can be controlled in the long term or cosmetically, but some of them are more longer term prospects.

Frequently, we can find areas of advantages in some weaknesses that we have in order to exploit, but we do have to contend with some social and physical reality phenomenon that are very powerful forces.

[Easy_Mode]

(02-09-2016 01:08 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  

I was reading "Bang" in late 2012 ish. What really got me over my anxiety to approach was the part where he asks the reader to imagine the worst things that could possibly happen. Those things had already happened to me in DC at that point anyway so I figured I had nothing to lose and went on one of those kamikaze nights where I just said whatever I felt like without regard to the consequences.

By the end of the night I was convinced that it didn't matter much what you say to them, if they like you you can say whatever you like, if they dont like you then nothing you can say will work. I had more luck in my approaches when I stepped out of my regular personality and acted obnoxiously. I'd like to think I've calibrated it a bit better now.

I like this. I'm definitely a newb here. I've noticed I can say whatever I want to 6.5 and lower, and they don't even give a shit. Just want the D. But when it comes to a 7+s I overthink shit, and hold back. I think its like you said doesn't matter how hot they are. They want the D, or they don't. Just gotta play cool.

[Vienna]

It's not the biggest lesson and maybe not even red pill, but I just realized the following has stuck to my unconscious for some time.

I was seeing a girl working in real estate last summer. We were sitting in a bar during a date, and got into a deep convo about what motivates us in life.

She said: "Money doesn't motivate me. My dad taught me that having lots of money won't make you happy." Very convincing.

I bought that shit hook, line and sinker at the time and thought: "Damn, she seems genuine. She's not like the other girls." Yes, I fell real hard.

Later, after she'd dumped me, I heard from a mutual friend that she'd bought a new apartment, nice car and other stuff. Suddenly I realized that she did wear designer clothes, expensive handbags, talked about getting a boob job... Hell, she was working in real estate, one of the most greedy, vain and status-seeking careers there are! A real estate agent saying they're not motivated by money is lying.

And it hit me:

Don't base your actions and emotions towards a person on what they say, but what they do.

I knew it in theory, since it's a cardinal thing taught here. Hashed and rehashed ad infinitum. But when it finally merges with your own experience - in my case this seemingly random thing - there's a paradigm shift. Another brick falls in place, and your interactions with other people shifts subtly, yet monumentally.

[Gas]

(04-17-2013 08:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Women of all social classes respond better to violence than kindness.

When in doubt, be more violent (within the confines of the law, naturally).

Women often act out because they want you to punish them.

If you don't have a natural source of meanness, you must develop one to take your game to the next level.

Noticed this to the fullest with a recent girl. Fuck and dominate her and she's sweet and docile for a day. Then she starts acting out and being a little bitch. Fuck her that night and she's back to being a princess. Go two nights without fucking her and she's literally calling you names and fucking with all your shit. Fuck the life out of her and she's a sweetheart again.

As the fucking gets harder and more violent, it's easy to see how it eventually leads to dungeons and whips and chains and shit.

[DonnyGately]

Every single girl I've banged the past 3 years liked to be dominated and choked. Virtually all of them let me hogtie them, throat gagging, spanking, use ball gags and some combo of crops, cameras, hot wax, collars, 3-ways, and anal.

Girls who aren't lesbians will eat pussy if you dominate her well. One girl asked me to tie one of her feet to a ceiling hook and fuck her en pointe. They are 10x nastier than any guy you will ever know.


The other big one has been mentioned a couple times in the thread - they will decide within 10 seconds of meeting you if you are fuckable or not. Even if they don't want to fuck you that night [busy at a friends b-day, final exam tomorrow, whatever]. They still decide immediately if you are in their 'fuck zone' or not. This aligns nicely with the 'Don't bother trying to get out of the Friend Zone.'

[JayJuanGee]

(02-23-2016 06:20 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Every single girl I've banged the past 3 years liked to be dominated and choked. Virtually all of them let me hogtie them, throat gagging, spanking, use ball gags and some combo of crops, cameras, hot wax, collars, 3-ways, and anal.

Girls who aren't lesbians will eat pussy if you dominate her well. One girl asked me to tie one of her feet to a ceiling hook and fuck her en pointe. They are 10x nastier than any guy you will ever know.


The other big one has been mentioned a couple times in the thread - they will decide within 10 seconds of meeting you if you are fuckable or not. Even if they don't want to fuck you that night [busy at a friends b-day, final exam tomorrow, whatever]. They still decide immediately if you are in their 'fuck zone' or not. This aligns nicely with the 'Don't bother trying to get out of the Friend Zone.'

I generally agree with you that chicks like to be dominated, and it is much better to be accused of being too dominating, too controlling and too physical, rather than the opposite.

On the other hand, seems like I am a lot less kinky than you, and even less experimental and/or willing to push what would be the considered the more kinky extremes.

Accordingly, I am gathering from your post that you are asserting that your various red pill lessons are that 1) chicks tend to be a lot more willing to be dominated in non-traditional means than they may outwardly admit and 2) within a fairly short period of time, chicks will categorize you and decide whether or not you are within "fuckable," and accordingly, you are otherwise wasting your time if you cause the chick to categorize you as "not fuckable."

I cannot really dispute or disagree with your rendition of your experiences; however, it does seem that my experiences are a quite a bit different from yours in terms of both of those above summarized principles, and a lot of my experiences with chicks tend to have a lot more back and forth and variation.. but possibly, I am causing some of that variation in my own experiences in the way that I target chicks and interact with them?

[rudebwoy]

Play on your terms.

[robreke]

A woman's word means virtually nothing.

[DonnyGately]

(02-23-2016 06:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 06:20 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Every single girl I've banged the past 3 years liked to be dominated and choked. Virtually all of them let me hogtie them, throat gagging, spanking, use ball gags and some combo of crops, cameras, hot wax, collars, 3-ways, and anal.

Girls who aren't lesbians will eat pussy if you dominate her well. One girl asked me to tie one of her feet to a ceiling hook and fuck her en pointe. They are 10x nastier than any guy you will ever know.


The other big one has been mentioned a couple times in the thread - they will decide within 10 seconds of meeting you if you are fuckable or not. Even if they don't want to fuck you that night [busy at a friends b-day, final exam tomorrow, whatever]. They still decide immediately if you are in their 'fuck zone' or not. This aligns nicely with the 'Don't bother trying to get out of the Friend Zone.'

I generally agree with you that chicks like to be dominated, and it is much better to be accused of being too dominating, too controlling and too physical, rather than the opposite.

On the other hand, seems like I am a lot less kinky than you, and even less experimental and/or willing to push what would be the considered the more kinky extremes.

Accordingly, I am gathering from your post that you are asserting that your various red pill lessons are that 1) chicks tend to be a lot more willing to be dominated in non-traditional means than they may outwardly admit and 2) within a fairly short period of time, chicks will categorize you and decide whether or not you are within "fuckable," and accordingly, you are otherwise wasting your time if you cause the chick to categorize you as "not fuckable."

I cannot really dispute or disagree with your rendition of your experiences; however, it does seem that my experiences are a quite a bit different from yours in terms of both of those above summarized principles, and a lot of my experiences with chicks tend to have a lot more back and forth and variation.. but possibly, I am causing some of that variation in my own experiences in the way that I target chicks and interact with them?

I would say 1) Girls are much kinkier than guys and enjoy being submissive the vast majority of the time, use that to your advantage. [I'm not saying you can do all that immediately!] And ones who aren't naturally submissive are almost always happy to roleplay. Boss/secretary, 50 shades, you name it.

Put differently, every girl that's learned to deep throat a guy learned... on some guy. So you can take advantage of that fact or be that guy she learned from.

No chick in 2016 wants to the girl who doesn't know how to fuck, can't please her man. It's probably the worst thing you can say about them today. True for younger girls, even moreso for 25+.

2) How does having back and forth with a girl and a variety of experiences mean she didn't decide within seconds of meeting you that you were in the 'would fuck' category? I would say that helps my theory, instead of disagrees with it. Maybe you thought I was talking ONS only?

one can blow up a golden opportunity with a girl and lose all chances of getting lucky, but I don't think I need to say that.

[Brodiaga]

One thing I'm starting to understand but still trying to internalize.

Our self esteem and sense of self worth are based on our interactions with other people: how they perceive us and how successful we are in getting what we want. Applied to game, the more beautiful girls we can get, the better we feel about ourselves. The problem with this is that it makes us dependent on girls, their feelings and opinions, and even vulnerable to manipulation.

What's going to happen when we get old and less attractive to the opposite sex? I know there are men out there who get beautiful girls even in their 50s, but let's be real here: there will come a point for all of us when girls when girls will not longer be attracted to us.

The solution is to develop a sense of self worth independent of game results. At this point, I don't know how to do it, but this is something I need to work on. Maybe it will come naturally with age. I also believe that even at a younger age, if your self esteem is high regardless of success or lack thereof, it will help you become more successful.

[Travesty]

^ Covert sugar daddy game while serving your family and community.

[JayJuanGee]

(02-23-2016 09:23 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 06:39 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(02-23-2016 06:20 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Every single girl I've banged the past 3 years liked to be dominated and choked. Virtually all of them let me hogtie them, throat gagging, spanking, use ball gags and some combo of crops, cameras, hot wax, collars, 3-ways, and anal.

Girls who aren't lesbians will eat pussy if you dominate her well. One girl asked me to tie one of her feet to a ceiling hook and fuck her en pointe. They are 10x nastier than any guy you will ever know.


The other big one has been mentioned a couple times in the thread - they will decide within 10 seconds of meeting you if you are fuckable or not. Even if they don't want to fuck you that night [busy at a friends b-day, final exam tomorrow, whatever]. They still decide immediately if you are in their 'fuck zone' or not. This aligns nicely with the 'Don't bother trying to get out of the Friend Zone.'

I generally agree with you that chicks like to be dominated, and it is much better to be accused of being too dominating, too controlling and too physical, rather than the opposite.

On the other hand, seems like I am a lot less kinky than you, and even less experimental and/or willing to push what would be the considered the more kinky extremes.

Accordingly, I am gathering from your post that you are asserting that your various red pill lessons are that 1) chicks tend to be a lot more willing to be dominated in non-traditional means than they may outwardly admit and 2) within a fairly short period of time, chicks will categorize you and decide whether or not you are within "fuckable," and accordingly, you are otherwise wasting your time if you cause the chick to categorize you as "not fuckable."

I cannot really dispute or disagree with your rendition of your experiences; however, it does seem that my experiences are a quite a bit different from yours in terms of both of those above summarized principles, and a lot of my experiences with chicks tend to have a lot more back and forth and variation.. but possibly, I am causing some of that variation in my own experiences in the way that I target chicks and interact with them?

I would say 1) Girls are much kinkier than guys and enjoy being submissive the vast majority of the time, use that to your advantage. [I'm not saying you can do all that immediately!] And ones who aren't naturally submissive are almost always happy to roleplay. Boss/secretary, 50 shades, you name it.

Put differently, every girl that's learned to deep throat a guy learned... on some guy. So you can take advantage of that fact or be that guy she learned from.

No chick in 2016 wants to the girl who doesn't know how to fuck, can't please her man. It's probably the worst thing you can say about them today. True for younger girls, even moreso for 25+.

2) How does having back and forth with a girl and a variety of experiences mean she didn't decide within seconds of meeting you that you were in the 'would fuck' category? I would say that helps my theory, instead of disagrees with it. Maybe you thought I was talking ONS only?

one can blow up a golden opportunity with a girl and lose all chances of getting lucky, but I don't think I need to say that.

Regarding your point 2 above (bolded by me for ease of reference), or any of your other points, I am not attempting to suggest that you are wrong about any of it, even if some of the points that you are making are not within my experiences.

Whether you are correct or not in your various theories, there is going to be some potential truth in what you are saying and some evidence of such, otherwise, you would likely not be able to reasonably come to such conclusions.

I believe that I sufficiently understood your point, and I did not assume that you were necessarily referring to one night stand situations, concerning just meeting a girl and her coming to her first impressions and inclinations.

When I am mentioning the back and forths, I am suggesting that there can be a lot at play regarding whether a girl is inclined to bang or not (even if it could take her several weeks before she follows through with it). Surely any guy could create good first impressions and some girls are going to take longer than others to persuade, and some girls are going to have their various quirks, and in that regard, a guy needs to be able to roll with the punches and even adapt his strategy a bit.

Probably i am suggesting that girls take a bit longer than a few seconds, and yeah, sure there are going to be some guys that have physical attractiveness, wealth or social circles that are going to cause girls to become wet on a high percentage basis. Nonetheless, you can go with your various theories, and I will consider that perspective to some extent, but even if I am considering, that does not mean that I am not coming to my own conclusions and having some doubts with your perspective, even though you are certainly free to have your perspective and to approach the world with your framework.

[JayJuanGee]

(02-23-2016 09:49 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

One thing I'm starting to understand but still trying to internalize.

Our self esteem and sense of self worth are based on our interactions with other people: how they perceive us and how successful we are in getting what we want. Applied to game, the more beautiful girls we can get, the better we feel about ourselves. The problem with this is that it makes us dependent on girls, their feelings and opinions, and even vulnerable to manipulation.

What's going to happen when we get old and less attractive to the opposite sex? I know there are men out there who get beautiful girls even in their 50s, but let's be real here: there will come a point for all of us when girls when girls will not longer be attracted to us.

The solution is to develop a sense of self worth independent of game results. At this point, I don't know how to do it, but this is something I need to work on. Maybe it will come naturally with age. I also believe that even at a younger age, if your self esteem is high regardless of success or lack thereof, it will help you become more successful.

I don't recall how old you are Brodiaga, but I am in my late 40s, and certainly over the years I have had to adapt my game and my style based on my age.

So, yeah, age will also depend, to some extent, where you are at (geographically and culturally), and then what the competition is like and the poole of available chicks.

Guys are lucky to some extent because looks are not as important to girls, but still the various attributes you have and how you play it is going to need to be adapted as you get older, and likely the approaches you take and what you can get away with...

Some girls will be more tolerant than others regarding age differences, but my sense is that the pool of chicks become smaller, so new challenges come with it. Personally, I know sometimes, that I could adapt my game in order to get more success, but there is also some truth to becoming older in that you may not want to change certain things. In that regard, I only have so much time and energy to go out and to play around, and I may not want to stay up all night, like I used to do more frequently when I was younger.

[Comte De St. Germain]

The only people I'm afraid of are the people with nothing to lose. It's why I treat everyone I meet fairly until they've proven themselves unworthy of it.

On that tangent, respect is always something to be earned whether giving it or receiving it.

[DonnyGately]

JJG, I am sure your experiences are different. I still think you're missing my point about 'would fuck' and 'won't fuck' -- of course you still have to run Game as normal to close the deal - whether that takes days, weeks, or months if you don't see her much. I completely agree!!

Let me posit 2 easy scenarios, if you haven't had this happen to you already, plus we are both much older than some chicks we game.

You approach 2 identical girls in 2 similar bars on the same nite:
Girl a: This guy is too old for me. He reminds me of my dad/horrible boss/pervert teacher.
You're never going anywhere with her. It's just not happening.

Girl B: Ohhh, a handsome older man. I've had such 'daddy' fantasies for years. Men in suits are so much more mature than the boys who chase me online. I bet he knows what he's doing in bed also. And I don't have to worry about him posting on FB about how we fucked and other people see it like some frat douche.

Both of these girls had these reactions as soon as they saw you. That doesn't mean B is going to throw herself at you, we all agree you still have to work it. But unlike girl A, she's gonna be down for ONS, or Netflix and chill, or harem, or LTR, or etc.

Red Pill has taught me that gaming girl A is a complete waste of time -doesn't matter if you're rich, fit, well-dressed, solid social circle. Something Mystery hit on often, drop her and move to next target. Along with that, red pill has taught me that there are FAR more Girl B's out there than we ever had imagined. Ever.

Regardless, my first lesson is one all guys should heed - girls love to be dominated. It's one of the few things what they say [anonymously or to friends or even upfront to guys they date] and what they do coincide. They are dying to submit to a powerful man. It's their #1 fantasy for women long before 50 Shades was written.

best of luck out there.

[JayJuanGee]

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

JJG, I am sure your experiences are different.

Let me see if I can phrase this a bit more clearly. Sometimes, sentiment, tone or meaning can get lost in text and even bad explanations, and possibly, I have been guilty of such.

I am not merely asserting that our experience is difference in order to suggest that I have not had many experiences, merely I believe I am trying to suggest that sometimes a guy's own viewpoint and approach can also change his experience and perspective and what he tries or wants to try on girls.

Accordingly, I am not asserting that your experiences are wrong or that your approach is not in some sense self fulfilling, even though I am challenging it to some degree. And, mostly I seem to be challenging some of the apparent black and white nature of your description in which it appears that you are suggesting that girls are that made up in their thinking.

In reality, girls are all fucking over the place, with a large variety of indecision and even not knowing what they want.... but sure, some girls are more clear in their own heads regarding what they want and what they don't want. When there is variation, there is room to work on them.. and get them to change their minds or their inclinations... and give them a few drinks, and they may become even more agreeable, as compared with their earlier inclinations.

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

I still think you're missing my point about 'would fuck' and 'won't fuck' -- of course you still have to run Game as normal to close the deal - whether that takes days, weeks, or months if you don't see her much. I completely agree!!

I don't think that I am missing your point. I just think that you end up being a bit more of a fatalist than me if you are believing that you have already been categorized. Surely, I agree that some girls and some situations are going to be a lot more clear and already won or lost than other situations, and some are still yet to be determined (even if their is an initial inclination one way or the other).

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Let me posit 2 easy scenarios, if you haven't had this happen to you already, plus we are both much older than some chicks we game.

You approach 2 identical girls in 2 similar bars on the same nite:
Girl a: This guy is too old for me. He reminds me of my dad/horrible boss/pervert teacher.
You're never going anywhere with her. It's just not happening.

Girl B: Ohhh, a handsome older man. I've had such 'daddy' fantasies for years. Men in suits are so much more mature than the boys who chase me online. I bet he knows what he's doing in bed also. And I don't have to worry about him posting on FB about how we fucked and other people see it like some frat douche.

Both of these girls had these reactions as soon as they saw you. That doesn't mean B is going to throw herself at you, we all agree you still have to work it. But unlike girl A, she's gonna be down for ONS, or Netflix and chill, or harem, or LTR, or etc.

I cannot really disagree with your scenario; however, I would suggest that there are a lot more variables than A and B.

There are going to be some girls that don't quite fit A but are more inclined towards A, and there are going to be some girls that don't quite fit B but are more inclined towards B. In that sense, we gotta roll with the punches, and play the variations, and try to determine whether the chick(s) is worth the attempted pursuit.

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Red Pill has taught me that gaming girl A is a complete waste of time -doesn't matter if you're rich, fit, well-dressed, solid social circle. Something Mystery hit on often, drop her and move to next target. Along with that, red pill has taught me that there are FAR more Girl B's out there than we ever had imagined. Ever.

I agree that some girls are more of a waste of time than others, and sometimes a guy is able to determine that early on, and other times, it may be a bit more ambiguous.

Likely, I agree that a guy can build himself up enough in a variety of ways to cause more potential group B girls.

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Regardless, my first lesson is one all guys should heed - girls love to be dominated. It's one of the few things what they say [anonymously or to friends or even upfront to guys they date] and what they do coincide. They are dying to submit to a powerful man. It's their #1 fantasy for women long before 50 Shades was written.

best of luck out there.

We are not really disputing anything in this last paragraphs, yet I become somewhat uncomfortable to suggest all girls like.. blah, blah, blah... even if an overwhelming majority respond positive to it and are more receptive than anyone would have imagined.... because no matter what there are going to be freaks and variation and sometimes contradictory conduct.

[estraudi]

(02-23-2016 09:49 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

One thing I'm starting to understand but still trying to internalize.

Our self esteem and sense of self worth are based on our interactions with other people: how they perceive us and how successful we are in getting what we want. Applied to game, the more beautiful girls we can get, the better we feel about ourselves. The problem with this is that it makes us dependent on girls, their feelings and opinions, and even vulnerable to manipulation.

What's going to happen when we get old and less attractive to the opposite sex? I know there are men out there who get beautiful girls even in their 50s, but let's be real here: there will come a point for all of us when girls when girls will not longer be attracted to us.

The solution is to develop a sense of self worth independent of game results. At this point, I don't know how to do it, but this is something I need to work on. Maybe it will come naturally with age. I also believe that even at a younger age, if your self esteem is high regardless of success or lack thereof, it will help you become more successful.

What happens to be your age Brodiaga?

I've had the same thoughts as you. My self esteem has usually been pretty high. It wasn't until I hit a few rough patches in my life and wasn't out interacting with my social circle or new people, girls, that I then realized how much my self-esteem seemed to be tied into how well I was doing with all the people I interacted with on a daily basis.

As I get older(29) and after doing much more introspection and research into how to overcome what is clinically considered my "false self" I realize that being comfortable with not being out there in public and instead spending more time developing my inner self, is making me that much more aware and able to be someone of substance when I am back out there engaging the world. When I feel sure of myself in certain situations after getting to know my real true self it somehow has created this confidence that is congruent with my internal dialogue that is running independent of what somebody or some group thinks of myself.

It's actually freeing in a sense that Nearly all of my energy is spent being congruent with myself and not impressing and also forces me to be more present and pay actual attention to the clues people are droppping around you almost constantly. Taking those clues and using them to your advantage, now that to me is what it means to control a group or command your presence. Strong Inner Game = Strong Outer Frame.

[DonnyGately]

(02-24-2016 08:05 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Red Pill has taught me that gaming girl A is a complete waste of time -doesn't matter if you're rich, fit, well-dressed, solid social circle. Something Mystery hit on often, drop her and move to next target. Along with that, red pill has taught me that there are FAR more Girl B's out there than we ever had imagined. Ever.

I agree that some girls are more of a waste of time than others, and sometimes a guy is able to determine that early on, and other times, it may be a bit more ambiguous.

Fair points all, and we agree in most places. You say it's not totally black/white, okay, let's expand it to 5 possibilities which cover all the bases -- Red, Orange, Yellow, Pale Green, and Green.

To spend anytime on the first 2 is a waste, in terms of potential benefits vs time cost. An orange girl might be, say, a flat-out golddigger, so it's not impossible but you don't want to.
Yellow can be convinced so if she's hot enough and single and willing to drink with you then it's your judgement call. Game on.

But guys don't realize they can spend almost all their time on the Go Girls and Get Ready to Go Girls when gaming. I used to think green girls were rare, red pill has taught me that they are not at all. Light green girls are simply everywhere. I put the majority of college girls I meet in the light green category.

Of course, time sent in the field gaming determines your ability to properly classify which girls are which. But noting the differences between red and green is trivial.

[JayJuanGee]

(02-25-2016 06:48 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 08:05 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(02-24-2016 06:55 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Red Pill has taught me that gaming girl A is a complete waste of time -doesn't matter if you're rich, fit, well-dressed, solid social circle. Something Mystery hit on often, drop her and move to next target. Along with that, red pill has taught me that there are FAR more Girl B's out there than we ever had imagined. Ever.

I agree that some girls are more of a waste of time than others, and sometimes a guy is able to determine that early on, and other times, it may be a bit more ambiguous.

Fair points all, and we agree in most places. You say it's not totally black/white, okay, let's expand it to 5 possibilities which cover all the bases -- Red, Orange, Yellow, Pale Green, and Green.

To spend anytime on the first 2 is a waste, in terms of potential benefits vs time cost. An orange girl might be, say, a flat-out golddigger, so it's not impossible but you don't want to.
Yellow can be convinced so if she's hot enough and single and willing to drink with you then it's your judgement call. Game on.

But guys don't realize they can spend almost all their time on the Go Girls and Get Ready to Go Girls when gaming. I used to think green girls were rare, red pill has taught me that they are not at all. Light green girls are simply everywhere. I put the majority of college girls I meet in the light green category.

Of course, time sent in the field gaming determines your ability to properly classify which girls are which. But noting the differences between red and green is trivial.

Yes, in my view, the five categories would be a lot more helpful in framing the situation and acknowledging quite a few variations in chicks.

Whether a guy uses two categories, five categories or 100 categories, the guy develops his own framework and approach, and ultimately, a lot of RVF guys are going to be consciously considering the situation a bit more in terms of self improvement.

As you seem to acknowledge, guys are going to have different approaches and experiences and world views that will cause him to categorize the girls and to figure out whether it is worth his time to attempt to game them.

The devil's in the details of application, but I think that you have reframed the situation with considerable clarity. Thanks for that.

[SomeFcksGiven]

During your first approach, or while on a date, ask yourself.. "what do I need to do right now so I'm not kicking myself later?"

This helps me rediscover my balls and keep things on the right track.

[Panther]

(03-09-2016 01:43 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

During your first approach, or while on a date, ask yourself.. "what do I need to do right now so I'm not kicking myself later?"

This helps me rediscover my balls and keep things on the right track.

This mindset is useful in a lot of situations in life