[alphanov]

(03-12-2013 01:42 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

Talk to the girl you like and then after you have run your game and you get the make out or you know she is into you, bounce venues with her or try to isolate her. So if she is with her, bounce her to a quite place in the bar, talk and make out, then bounce her somewhere outside the bar and then back to your place.

thanks, captain obvious

[alphanov]

+1
Lately I've been trying Richard de la Roca stuff and it's amazing. It turns out that French girls are receptive to tongue-in-cheek romantic game. You gotta be half romantic, half normal, and a dash of asshole. Some examples
"Where do you come from?" -> "Love doesn't know borders"
"What are you doing in France?" -> "Searching for a girl of my dreams"
Later you talk about possible romantic dates like feeding squirrels, stargazing, chilling in a jacuzzi, dinner with candlelight, etc.
Whoever tries to interrupt the conversation, even her own friends, you go defensive in a funny way and say "I'd like to present you my girlfriend" another option is to hug her sideways and ask the intruder "hey, do you think me make a nice couple?"
I'd estimate that with this attitude it's possible to get a notch from every 50 approaches or so.

[Samseau]

Sounds like night game sucks ass there. Have you tried day game or online game?

[alphanov]

(03-16-2013 01:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sounds like night game sucks ass there. Have you tried day game or online game?

No way man, night game is terrific if you throw the tongue-in-cheek romantic lines (beware NOT to give her validation directly, i.e. "you're beautiful") . No need to be an asshole when the girls are sweet by default.
Besides, cockblocking is virtually nonexistent. Also, there are almost no other players around, so you're the boss if you play your cards right.

[Samseau]

(03-16-2013 01:41 PM)alphanov Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sounds like night game sucks ass there. Have you tried day game or online game?

No way man, night game is terrific if you throw the tongue-in-cheek romantic lines (beware NOT to give her validation directly, i.e. "you're beautiful") . No need to be an asshole when the girls are sweet by default.
Besides, cockblocking is virtually nonexistent. Also, there are almost no other players around, so you're the boss if you play your cards right.

Dude you just said you can't get laid out of 500 approaches. How can you say nightlife is terrific?

[alphanov]

(03-16-2013 03:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Dude you just said you can't get laid out of 500 approaches. How can you say nightlife is terrific?

I just got laid last night, and it's the romantic game that made all the difference. Now that I think about it, out of all those approaches the 5-6 girls that were totally into me (kissing, grinding, her friends giving us thumbs up) eventually did not have sex with me due to my aloof don't-give-a-shit attitude. Apparently they are LTR focused, so you better talk about future plans and display affection (without direct validation)

[Samseau]

(03-16-2013 03:45 PM)alphanov Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 03:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Dude you just said you can't get laid out of 500 approaches. How can you say nightlife is terrific?

I just got laid last night, and it's the romantic game that made all the difference. Now that I think about it, out of all those approaches the 5-6 girls that were totally into me (kissing, grinding, her friends giving us thumbs up) eventually did not have sex with me due to my aloof don't-give-a-shit attitude. Apparently they are LTR focused, so you better talk about future plans and display affection (without direct validation)

Ah, so your game wasn't calibrated for your environment.

The lesson here is to never exactly the same game per location. You'll always need to switch things up depending on where you are. Given your location in France I guess you needed to ease up on the alpha asshole game.

[bojangles]

sounds good lad, been following this thread since you started up, finally you've found the magic ingredient, now run riot!

[iknowexactly]

moot

[alphanov]

(03-16-2013 07:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Given your location in France I guess you needed to ease up on the alpha asshole game.

It's still essential to be a strong alpha, but the asshole part is detrimental. I think there's a clear difference:

• Alpha: "I present you my girlfriend (to other people in the pub)"; Beta: "Would you like to be my girlfriend?"
• Alpha: "One day we are going to the spa and we'll chill in a jacuzzi (put your arm around her and pretend to chill)"; Beta: "Hey would you like to hang out with me next week?"
• Alpha: "Do you think your dad will like me? (after 5 min of interaction)"; Beta: "I like you (after 5 weeks)" or even worse "Do you like me?"
• Alpha: "I'm searching for a girl of my life"; Beta: "You're the girl of my life"
  

Moreover, as you're being the romantic alpha, it's crucial to physically escalate. The whole point is to expose yourself as an awesome boyfriend material, so she and her friends can stop worrying that you'll pump and dump her. This will make her chase you, because you're cool, looking for a girlfriend, and you don't tell her if she's good enough for you.
If you're only awesome, but unsure if available, unsure about the future, and possibly rude because of asshole lines, she will run away.

[Giovonny]

Find a new society to game in. Location is everything.

[alphanov]

(03-17-2013 12:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Find a new society to game in. Location is everything.

Nah, first I'll reap the benefits of my hard work so far. This is pristine pussy, untouched by US/UK based players.

[mikado]

Really interesting thread (sorry for that bump)

Myself am in the same city ( being a foreigner too, but from West Africa) and I can't agree more with what alphanov said (don't see why he got banned)

I can't recognize enough myself in his difficulties, pretty much everytime I see some guy go out of a club making out with a hot bitch and looking like he's gonna get laid, he came within the same social circle as that girl. Crowd circles woman-exclusive, or with a low number of males are numerous, and the only way to even get a dance from them is to pull them by the waist, turn them around, smile and forcefully make them dance( not guaranteed, the "no no sorry" or "I'm with my friends" is still a threat). Beta chodes grinding behind them or doing pussy moves are everywhere too, and while we can sense the frustration from some women who came in 2-3 to get laid, they refuse to dance with someone else than their girlfriend, tell you shit like "we'll meet again in this area maybe!" and go home with their whole crew of friends.

I think I figured it out: getting better at dance moves ( some girls told me I can dance good whereas some months ago I couldn't do shit) , goind straight into dem gals' circles(dancing with all of them then remaining with one in particular), going romantic/asshole like alphanov did, gonna practice this and give feedback.

See you brothas.