[XXL]

I guess the only way in your situation is to steal a girl. Find out what's stopping her from going with you [you assess on your own or wait till she tells you] and creatively come up with a solution to deal with that problem by baby stepping. I see no other way.

Robbery frame

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[alphanov]

(02-14-2013 05:08 AM)XXL Wrote:  

I guess the only way in your situation is to steal a girl. Find out what's stopping her from going with you [you assess on your own or wait till she tells you] and creatively come up with a solution to deal with that problem by baby stepping. I see no other way.

Robbery frame

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These are some informative videos!!

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I think you're too focused on sex as an outcome? I know it's a very hard concept to wrap you're head around, but fuck sex (no pun intended). Just go for vibing and being cool, interesting, social. The French don't do negs or cockiness very well, it's all about politeness, especially at first.

Let me describe my typical approach in a pub. I throw my awesome opener at a group of 2-3 girls and I get them laughing. Then they usually ask "hey you have an accent, where are you from?" and then we have a generic conversation for a while. Sooner or later THEY will bring up intimate topics. It's because they're not retarded, and it's obvious what a dude wants when he approaches pretty girls in a pub. And yesterday, oh yeah, I approached 5 girls, and before I know it, the 4 ugly ones distanced themselves (!) to give me and the pretty girl some privacy. We chatted for 15 mins, then she said she feels guilty for not being with her friends and she got back to them.

[guerrilla]

Ok did you get a number? Meet her a few days later for a drink or dinner.

[alphanov]

(02-14-2013 08:45 AM)guerrilla Wrote:  

Ok did you get a number? Meet her a few days later for a drink or dinner.

No man, I quit asking for numbers long ago. This is a tough society I'm in, remember? I also had a talk with one very reasonable girl as to why wouldn't she (or her mates) date me. She said she needs to meet a guy 2-3 times in a party before accepting a date, no matter how cool he is. They are going out to parties with their brothers, how the fuck will they date some dude they've just met?

[alphanov]

An update of my progress on Valentine's day. I did one hour of day game, 3 nice chats out of which 2 were in relationship, the 3rd one doesn't go to dates (which I believe is genuine, because people don't date here).
Then I did 8 hours of night game. Did 20+ approaches, grinded about 5 girls, kissed 2, aaaand three girls recognized me from sometime before. The social machine starts running. The problem I face now, is that I don't remember anything about those girls, so it's kinda embarrassing to start afresh obviously it's their fault that they are all the same shallow stupid sluts and I can't make them out from each other.

[CJVM]

In my experience french girls have been easy and very open to direct game.

[alphanov]

(02-14-2013 11:51 PM)CJVM Wrote:  

In my experience french girls have been easy and very open to direct game.

Which region and what age girls? I'm in Grenoble trying to fuck college pussy. They are friendly and will make out easily, but isolation is near impossible, and they don't date.

[thegmanifesto]

(02-14-2013 11:55 PM)alphanov Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 11:51 PM)CJVM Wrote:  

In my experience french girls have been easy and very open to direct game.

Which region and what age girls? I'm in Grenoble trying to fuck college pussy. They are friendly and will make out easily, but isolation is near impossible, and they don't date.

What do you mean?

If you ask them they just say no?

Or do they really never go out on dates period?

[alphanov]

(02-14-2013 11:58 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What do you mean?

If you ask them they just say no?

Or do they really never go out on dates period?

Well so far I've got zero dates. I have a few girls in the pipeline who really like me (I kissed one today), but even they won't date. We talked about it, and they say that they don't feel like going out with a stranger. As an alternative they suggest that we should meet "by chance" in the usual few pubs, and that involves her being with her partner and some beta orbiters. One-on-one date is apparently a big deal here, and they would agree on that only when you've already known each other for a while at parties.

[thegmanifesto]

(02-15-2013 12:10 AM)alphanov Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 11:58 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What do you mean?

If you ask them they just say no?

Or do they really never go out on dates period?

Well so far I've got zero dates. I have a few girls in the pipeline who really like me (I kissed one today), but even they won't date. We talked about it, and they say that they don't feel like going out with a stranger. As an alternative they suggest that we should meet "by chance" in the usual few pubs, and that involves her being with her partner and some beta orbiters. One-on-one date is apparently a big deal here, and they would agree on that only when you've already known each other for a while at parties.

Strange.

Have you thought of taking a trip to Marseille or somewhere on the coast?

Or maybe Annecy or Chamany?

[alphanov]

not yet, but i'll go later when the weather is good, and I've saved up some cash

[thegmanifesto]

(02-15-2013 12:43 AM)alphanov Wrote:  

not yet, but i'll go later when the weather is good, and I've saved up some cash

What about Annecy or Chamany?

They are close to you, and I think they are great in Winter.

I have never been, but I have heard from Friends that snowboard that they are phenomenal places.

I have also swoop girls from there that were fly as hell.

[alphanov]

(02-15-2013 09:03 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:43 AM)alphanov Wrote:  

not yet, but i'll go later when the weather is good, and I've saved up some cash

What about Annecy or Chamany?

They are close to you, and I think they are great in Winter.

I have never been, but I have heard from Friends that snowboard that they are phenomenal places.

I have also swoop girls from there that were fly as hell.

I would roam around gladly, but I'm really short on cash right now. Plus, in my own town I have all the logistics sorted out. Btw, yesterday in the club on a barrel I grinded a girl from Annecy, who studies here in Grenoble. Then her bf showed up and told me get the fuck off of his bitch. I'm obviously more ripped than he is, I could have smacked his shit up, but then I thought, nah, why get myself into trouble for a stupid slut who won't bang me anyway.

[alphanov]

Tonight's update. In the pub I've focused all my attention on a group of two girls, both 5's. They were really friendly, my game was excellent, soon we started talking about sex and relationships and they were very cool about it. They even went to toilet one by one, so I had some privacy with each separately, which I used to kiss and grind my boner against her ass, which was cool with them.
One of them was telling me about all the different nationalities she has fucked, and she never had a guy from my country, and how cool it was that I'm there (I replied "not so fast, I'm a catholic", but later admitted to be bullshitting and they laughed). I also used the line about putting drugs in her drink, and she said "so am I getting raped tonight? that's great!!" (I replied that I'm a pimp and she'll get raped by my client, to which she said that she agreed only on me raping her).

We spent about 1 hour like that, and then we started talking where to go after we leave the pub. At my slightest attempt to even begin suggesting an afterparty they became defensive, kind of angry and irritated. They told me that I'm not leaving with them, turned away from me, no further discussion, period.

[Sebastian]

What's your ethnicity?

That's how I feel when I go to local hipster bar, full of white people (I am asian)

I see girls running into guy and girls friends there all the time. Girls and guys come together too.

How easy would it be a guy like me who stands out, taking a girl home in front of her friends?

[alphanov]

(02-15-2013 10:48 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

What's your ethnicity?

That's how I feel when I go to local hipster bar, full of white people (I am asian)

I see girls running into guy and girls friends there all the time. Girls and guys come together too.

How easy would it be a guy like me who stands out, taking a girl home in front of her friends?

I'm white, exactly the same as the locals

[alphanov]

OK I've come up with an idea. Maybe it's possible that these ordinary plain girls perceive me as a player and even though they like me, they don't want to be a toy in my hands. For now I see two options:
(1) Use the heavy game artillery only on 7's and up (with a hope of appearing the most alpha and making her chase me)
(2) With the regular 5's and 6's I should run just a light version of the game. They are already feeling insecure, so no need to further break their spirits. At a certain point I should lower the guard and show some beta weakness by admitting that I sincerely like them, you know like holding their hands and looking deep in their eyes. Then try to talk her into dating me.

[thegmanifesto]

(02-15-2013 07:29 PM)alphanov Wrote:  

I also used the line about putting drugs in her drink, and she said "so am I getting raped tonight? that's great!!" (I replied that I'm a pimp and she'll get raped by my client, to which she said that she agreed only on me raping her).

What line is that?

Any joke about r*pe or putting drugs in a girls drink is a foulball in my world.

[Christian McQueen]

I wouldn't even joke about raping. Wake up man it's 2013 I've seen guys get false charges.

[alphanov]

(02-17-2013 09:34 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

I wouldn't even joke about raping. Wake up man it's 2013 I've seen guys get false charges.

I guess they're lagging a few years behind in France, because this line works like a charm to me

[alphanov]

(02-17-2013 06:38 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Any joke about r*pe or putting drugs in a girls drink is a foulball in my world.

You can't throw this joke to some random girl out of the blue. First I establish myself as a stand-up comedian, I have a funny made-up profession, I go over the line, then hug them to excuse myself, so we are all laughing and having fun. When she's about to sip, I ask her to stir the class a bit, and here we go with the drugs joke. Works best with a pretty girl, when she's surrounded by friends and feeling completely safe.
I know I'm on the right path, because recently they've started offering me shots, cigarettes, I escalate to kissing and get away with it, many grinds... however, zero dates and zero bangs so far.

[thegmanifesto]

(02-18-2013 06:47 AM)alphanov Wrote:  

(02-17-2013 06:38 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Any joke about r*pe or putting drugs in a girls drink is a foulball in my world.

You can't throw this joke to some random girl out of the blue. First I establish myself as a stand-up comedian, I have a funny made-up profession, I go over the line, then hug them to excuse myself, so we are all laughing and having fun. When she's about to sip, I ask her to stir the class a bit, and here we go with the drugs joke. Works best with a pretty girl, when she's surrounded by friends and feeling completely safe.
I know I'm on the right path, because recently they've started offering me shots, cigarettes, I escalate to kissing and get away with it, many grinds... however, zero dates and zero bangs so far.

I would put that line in the trash compactor never to resurface again.

I hate to diss a guy's Game, but that line is awful. Quite possibly the worst I have ever heard on the Rooshforum.

This is tough love, I am doing you a favor.

Let's put it this way, if Don Juan used that line, we would be calling him just "Juan".

[alphanov]

(02-18-2013 04:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I would put that line in the trash compactor never to resurface again.

I hate to diss a guy's Game, but that line is awful. Quite possibly the worst I have ever heard on the Rooshforum.

This is tough love, I am doing you a favor.

Let's put it this way, if Don Juan used that line, we would be calling him just "Juan".

Well, I've read about this line in one of Roosh's posts, it worked for him. Seems to be working for me, too.
http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-choose-the-...r-fast-sex

[Christian McQueen]

(02-18-2013 05:11 PM)alphanov Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 04:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I would put that line in the trash compactor never to resurface again.

I hate to diss a guy's Game, but that line is awful. Quite possibly the worst I have ever heard on the Rooshforum.

This is tough love, I am doing you a favor.

Let's put it this way, if Don Juan used that line, we would be calling him just "Juan".

Well, I've read about this line in one of Roosh's posts, it worked for him. Seems to be working for me, too.
http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-choose-the-...r-fast-sex

Do yourself a favor and LISTEN to G and myself: Drop the 'rape' line. It's garbage.

And it's not 'working' because you admitted you are NOT getting bangs.

I'm not trying to be harsh with you but when 2 guys on this forum who have probably collectively slept with hundreds and hundreds of women give you GOLDEN advice, take it.

[alphanov]

(02-18-2013 08:05 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

I'm not trying to be harsh with you but when 2 guys on this forum who have probably collectively slept with hundreds and hundreds of women give you GOLDEN advice, take it.

I've slept with 33% of American girls I've attempted in my entire life (1 out of 3), so I assume it's raining pussy down there. I still can't believe how childishly easy she was.