Quote: (10-13-2012 10:44 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
In the other video we see him arguing and bickering with this girl for a long time (and is probably enjoying it too a bit since people on the bus cheer him on).
I don't think he enjoyed being harassed at his job (which, as others have pointed out, is already not a cakewalk). People cheered because he was doing the right thing.
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AT ANY POINT he could have stopped the bus out of safety reasons and asked her leave or made some half decent effort to get her of the bus or even have the police remove her of the bus. He CHOOSE not to do this and kept on driving KNOWING that she was a raging ghetto ho and she could have attacked him
Assuming that this hoodrat (who escalated into physical violence without any provocation, remember) would have safely been removed from the bus without some sort of physical confrontation (similar to what we've seen).
Tell me, Neil, how much experience do you have with women of this kind? I'm talking about the typical American ghetto hoodrat (plus alcohol). What do you know about them and proper conduct with them?
Right now, I'm convinced you know absolutely nothing.
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and thus HE is the one endangering the safety of the passengers. He is the one responsible for it.
Its his fault...and not the fault of the hood rat who initiated physical and verbal abuse?
Amazing.
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In the first video we can not clearly see what see does but then he pulls the bus over,meaning he has to look for a spot first, he stands up and walks up to her while she is in a submissive,non threatening position and hits her as hard as he can with intent to hurt her as much as possible. In my opinion this is totally uncalled for and the guy got what he deserved being a loose cannon. As a licensed driver he should have known better.
You missed the part where she a) punched him (following a litany of verbal abuse), b) attempted to choke him and c) spit in his face.
It was clear to everyone in the vehicle at that point that she was not a submissive, non-threatening individual. That you insist her assuming a distant position for a few seconds justifies her remaining immune to any physical consequence for her violent actions seconds earlier tells me you aren't even trying to think rationally about this.
You're seeing what you want to see, and it is strange that what you want to see is so inherently hostile and unfair to the man in question.
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My problem with the reactions here is that after the first video was posted and no other videos or info was known, people already cheered and liked the fact that a woman (although annoying and loudmouthed) got knocked of her feet by a abnormal punch. This clearly means that there are people here enjoying the fact that women are getting beat up.
This entire conclusion is based on the faulty premises I outlined above.
We enjoy the fact that she got treated the way she did because of her violent actions beforehand, which we are convinced warranted such a consequence. Applause of this particular incident does not indicate a general pleasure for women-bashing. You are applying a sufficient condition where there is none.
Quote: (10-13-2012 11:11 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
I'm also not arguing the fact that some crazy ass girls can be threatening and even violent but in most cases a firm push or slap is sufficient. You don't have to knock the girl out.
They're clearly not sufficient in an engagement with a hoodrat who has already escalated well beyond pushing and slapping.
Or did you forget about the punch and the choke she delivered (plus the spit in the face)?
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This guy is not a fucking psycho but a hero for punching a non physically threatening girl in the face?.
This girl had already punched him (while he was driving-and you say he is the danger to the passengers, lol), attempted to choke him and spit in his face. This is also not a young male in his physical prime-we're talking about a 60 year old guy (old enough to retire in most developed nations). She had no problem picking a fight with a man who is quite nearly a senior citizen.
And you call her "non-threatening"?
Clearly we have not seen the same videos.
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Where does the line start being an abusive cunt? One small remark, two three? A girl shouting at you? A girl being very in your face, maybe even push you a bit?
I think that after said female has physically assaulted someone (punching, choking, spitting) while simultaneously endangering the safety of dozens of other people, we can call her an abusive cunt.
That you refuse to do so even after all this is telling.
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There was this fat American girl in South Korea who really drove me up the wall but did I punch her in the face? No, I controlled myself and trust me it took some willpower.
Wait, let me guess the next part: she spit in your face, attempted to choke you, and punched you while you were trying to do your job (which requires you to take responsibility for the safety of dozens of other people at any given time), right?
Gosh, and you
still controlled yourself?
Wow, you must be something!
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And yes, I would bang.
All yours.
Quote: (10-13-2012 01:25 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:
Look, i"m not debating that this girl is one mean though anti-social bitch and I have to give her credit for taking a punch like that and still willing to mess with this guy. But that's not he issue at hand. Nor is it the issue that women think they are entitled to bully guys around.
...those issues are both at hand.
That entitlement and the continued fueling of that entitlement by men with attitudes like yours is directly at issue here.
The issues we have with women in this society stem directly from the unwillingness of so many men to mete out prper consequences to women for any of their actions, no matter how egregious.
In this case, you're arguing for the protection of a woman who blantly physically and verbally assaulted a public worker and put into danger the safety of dozens of people in the process.
And here we wonder why women behave in the way they do-they know they'll get men to stand up for them, no matter how badly they behave.
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You can't deny the fact that it was not written at her forehead that she survived gun shots and stabbings. Unless he personally knows her, he has no way of knowing this.
Neil proving again he knows not of what he speaks.
If you had any experience with these kinds of women (don't worry, I know you don't), you would know how to determine her amenability to violence and her likely prior engagement in it. Hoodrats are not hard to read when you get used to seeing them, and neither are their male counterparts. Language, posture, and facial features (in this case, the scar on her face) can tell you plenty.
That you do not know this indicates that you shouldn't even bother forming the conclusions you are forming. You don't know enough to do so, and you're too clearly invested in proving one (inaccurate) interpretation of the situation.
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Point is that she was not physically attacking this guy and at the moment her knocked her one there was no fight going on nor was she physically threatening him.
...even though just seconds earlier she had punched him, that action itself having followed attempts to choke him and spit in his face?
This is your argument?
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This makes it disproportional in my view.
...because, after punching him, she pulled back for a couple of seconds expecting absolutely no response at all?
So you're basically saying that, when a hoodrat engages in a long episode of physical/verbal assault at your expense, all she needs to do is step back for a second and (even seconds after her last violent act) she should be protected thereafter (any reaction is "disproportional")?
I can't believe I'm reading this crap.
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What i'm concerned about it that the first video only shows a girl shouting at a bus driver and the guy stands up and uppercuts her brutally. Next up is several guys her liking and cheering this situation.
Apparently you're the only one who didn't see her attack him, and you also lack the ability to recognize and deal with hoodrats (who we, unlike yourself, all know are dangerous).
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The way I see it is this.
- Ghetto ho shouts and verbally threatens a bus driver on short video
- Guy stops the bus and uses excessive force to shut her up.
- posters here like and cheer this action and start showing other videos of girl getting beat up.
I'm asking where is the line? Next time a girl says to the driver that he doesn't know how to drive and he knocks her out. is that ok?
Are you just intentionally ignoring the
physical abuse she doled out here prior to any physical reaction from the driver?
I find it difficult to believe that you are this blind to reality. Perhaps you should watch the video again and read the reports more closely.
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Is it now not wanted that a girl talks back to a man? Should all women be submissive little beings who completely bent to the will of the man?
...I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.