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(08-09-2012 10:02 PM)Juan Antonio Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:45 PM)Juan Antonio Wrote:  

I am thinking of hitting another venue now that is more logistically ideal for pick up.

This made me realize that irrespective of your game, venue selection is key.

I know guys who pull 1 in 2 to 1 in 3 times they go out. Mind you they hit up a bar well known for sloppy easy lays.

- It's a dive bar with cheap drinks. Lots of drunk girls.

- It's adjacent to a party school with a 2 to 1 female to male ratio.

- It's small. This keeps out the attention whores who go out in large groups to take pics for Facebook and dance in circles as these types gravitate towards the mega-clubs. Lots of 2 and 3 sets.

- It's got a great setup. There's a quieter area to run verbal game and a dance floor to escalate physically.

- It's within walking distance to the "student ghetto" of dorms and houses where the college kids reside, so logistics are ideal.

- It's in a college town. Unlike in major cities, there isn't a huge cohort of thirsty professional cats to compete with. Most of the older 25+ cats are married or in serious LTRs.

All these factors make it a goldmine for players looking to score with horny young college girls looking for cock.

How important of a factor is venue selection in scoping for DTF girls and racking up lays?

Forgot to add that this particular dive bar is underground - which means no cell phone service! This means girls are forced to interact with the environment around them instead of texting and being tethered to their smartphones.

The key to choosing bars if A) how many hot girls they are there B) how easy it is to talk/isolate them C) how easy is it for you to navigate that area. Only real way to know is to hit the pavement and do work. So hit the bar regularly for a month and see how it pans out. if not, switch....

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(08-06-2012 09:18 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

If I'm gonna go clubbing, there are two categories. This is based on my experience in L.A., I've never been clubbing anywhere else.

1) Clubs to have fun in

2) Clubs to be exposed to a plethora of fucking hot girls

In category 1, there are clubs like King King and Avalon. These are clubs that attract well known or talented DJs, where the crowd goes to have a blast and dance their ass off. Obviously it's much easier to let loose, give off a fun party vibe, and pull girls. I've had much greater success at clubs like these. They tend to have worse ratios though.

Just moved back from SF, and was bar/club-hopping across hollywood. The ratio was horrible at avalon, but the competition was even worse. Ended up finding a girl in 5 mins, and pulling within an hour or two. Good times...

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honestly i can't recommend clubs in 2012, at least not your plain average box dance clubs. the music's too loud so unless you have an absolutely perfect face and body for the scene you're just wasting your time. i haven't been in about a year and a half and if anything i'm doing better for it.

it's not impossible to score but it's all 110% rigged towards girls' entertainment, even if you're good with people and a local in the area you're going to get shit because of the heavy male quotas. avoid.

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(07-30-2012 09:26 AM)Nudge Wrote:  

I find I do much better going to more underground clubs where I actually like the music. If Im in some commercial club playing top 40 that I cant stand, my whole focus is going to be on macking and this can come off as needy for me.

this is also a great tip, basically if you're not enjoying your environment or the time you're spending wherever you are, you're going to pin your happiness on the pull and you'll either luck out or (more likely) fail for trying too hard.