[Surreyman]

(05-30-2013 12:11 PM)Travelsick Wrote:  

Heh

You ever watch a man die before your eyes of a heart attack?

It happens to me with surprising regularity, once a year, on the OR table in front of me. Needless to say it's a total bummer having to sell that one to the relatives.

I'm not gonna get into the whole LDL/HDL "cholesterol" thing here. Even considering the very latest research, it's all pretty much theory vs theory.

My point is 30 eggs a week is a lot of fat and protein, assuming you're eating other stuff as well. If you're burning that up fine, but the average man out there, isn't.

Lastly, time and time again controlled studies show that individual blood fat values vary greatly between people even when they're on the exact same controlled diet.

I'm going to go out on a limb here saying this isn't for everyone. If you have yourself checked and it's all dandy, great.

I see it this way:

A lot of average people spend most of their time sitting down, driving, at work, at home. They get almost no exercise, walk nowhere, and certainly don't run or lift.

Meanwhile, these idle people are quaffing simple carbohydrates in a hundred different forms. Crap from starbucks, soda, gallons of weak beer, chips, white bread etc.

In light of this all too common lifestyle, you're worried about eggs? You think it's the eggs that are killing people? I don't know about 6 a day, so I'm not going to argue that point. I'm talking about 2 or 3.

People ate eggs daily for thousands of years. Eggs aren't new, but sofas and glucose-fructose syrup are (high fructose corn syrup in the US).

[thegmanifesto]

(06-03-2013 09:01 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

^ Nice.

I like the consistency of hash but keep my carbs in the 100-200 grams/day range so that doesn't leave much room for potatoes.

Cauliflower Curry "Hash"

Steam cauliflower until soft (5-10 minutes).
Spring on some curry powder and mash up with a fork.
Throw 4-6 eggs on top.
Crack the yolks and mix up.

That's a cancer-fighting, protein-loaded meal right there.

Raw or cooked eggs?

[Kuhn]

I go through at least a dozen eggs a day. I scramble 6 at a time with 2tbs of Kerrygold grass-fed butter. After cooked, I add 3-4 tbs of cold organic salsa on top. Roughly 2000 of my calories come from eggs/butter alone- and have been doing so for that past 2-3 years.
I hover around 10%- body fat year-round and have managed to put on 20lbs of muscle in the past 2 years.
I had my bloodwork done yesterday. Perfect.

[thegmanifesto]

(06-27-2013 06:58 PM)Kuhn Wrote:  

I go through at least a dozen eggs a day.

Damn.

If I was some of you guys, I would look into raising some chickens.

What else are you eating besides eggs?

[Kuhn]

I have a local farm right down the street that cuts me a good deal.

Other foods include dark chocolate/coco butter 90%+, Raw milk, Coconut, almonds/nuts/cashews/hazelnuts, grass-fed beef/bacon/lamb, wild caught fish: salmon/flounder/sardines/trout/tilapia, steamed/blended vegetables(broccoli, Avocado, Cilantro, olives, Parsley, collards, brussels sprouts, kale, cucumbers, celery etc.)

[MikeCF]

(06-27-2013 04:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Raw or cooked eggs?

Cooked.

[Giovonny]

(06-27-2013 07:43 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 04:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Raw or cooked eggs?

Cooked.

Wait, Mike, don't you mean raw eggs?

You add raw eggs to the cauliflower?

Its basically scrambled eggs with mashed cauliflower, right?

I think G thinks that you add hard boiled eggs to the cauliflower?

Who is confused here?

[roberto]

I would say he then cooks it a little to make scrambled, but maybe not? Proper hardcore if not

A rudimentary omelette can be whipped up in the microwave in under four minutes- a bit more if you microwave some frozen spinach for vitamins etc. Serve with marmite and strong black filter coffee and you won't feel hungry till way past lunchtime. I do four eggs.

I often make two omelettes each morning, eat one hot and take the other in the truck with me.

Look at the lengths various predators go to to get hold of eggs. Those things are good for you, no shit.

Agree 100% with Surreyman's view on modern living, it's no wonder folk are getting ill these days.

[w00t]

I love eggs, I eat 3-4 eggs with bacon every monring and sometimes whip up a huge omelett (anoter 4-6 eggs) in the evening.
If anything its all the chips and fast food crap I eat thats gonna kill me.

[Architekt]

Eggs are awesome.

I've never understood those that only eat the egg whites. Removing the yolk seems pointless and even stupid to me, especially if you're a man, eating them for the purpose of developing muscle. The yolk is the bit that contains a majority of the goodness. If you have an actual health problem whereby you need to reduce your cholestrol intake, that's legit, but for someone who's active and working out, I can't understand why you'd be worried at all about it. Testosterone is produced from cholestrol, so it would actually make a whole lot more sense to eat the yolk, rather than just the whites...

[Matt3B]

Made some really good pancakes earlier today.

3 eggs
2 bananas
Handful of blueberries
Cinnamon

Tasted really good and it gets you some good carbs and protein.

[MikeCF]

(06-28-2013 12:14 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 07:43 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 04:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Raw or cooked eggs?

Cooked.

Wait, Mike, don't you mean raw eggs?

You add raw eggs to the cauliflower?

Its basically scrambled eggs with mashed cauliflower, right?

I think G thinks that you add hard boiled eggs to the cauliflower?

Who is confused here?

I make the eggs separately, usually sunny side up or over easy soft.

Then I throw them on top of the cauliflower.

Then I poke the yolks with my fork so the yolks run through the "hash."

Make sense?

[Cyclone]

My thing has always been how much to cook the egg.
In the mornings, to reduce tryptophan content (I hope), I hard-boil the eggs or fry them good. In the evenings, I boil them lightly for maybe 3-4 minutes so that they're semi-soft - LOVE it this way. But yea, I don't eat more than 2 eggs per day.

PS, is it worth it to buy organic? I buy cage free all the time, sometimes organic.
.

[thegmanifesto]

(06-28-2013 06:07 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(06-28-2013 12:14 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 07:43 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 04:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Raw or cooked eggs?

Cooked.

Wait, Mike, don't you mean raw eggs?

You add raw eggs to the cauliflower?

Its basically scrambled eggs with mashed cauliflower, right?

I think G thinks that you add hard boiled eggs to the cauliflower?

Who is confused here?

I make the eggs separately, usually sunny side up or over easy soft.

Then I throw them on top of the cauliflower.

Then I poke the yolks with my fork so the yolks run through the "hash."

Make sense?

Made this last night.

Steamed the cauliflower first.

Then threw it in a pan with eggs and some chopped up olives.

Cooked the eggs till almost scrambled.

Great recipe MikeCF.

I was sold hook, line and sinker when you called it a "cancer-fighting, protein-loaded meal right there."

[MikeCF]

Glad you liked it.

It's versatile because you can add things to taste.

YOu can use curry powder. Add in some fresh chopped onions. Or add in some caramelized onions.

The cauliflower is just a basic canvass.

My key to eating healthy and eating tasty foods are finding good "bases."

It's a lot like poke.

I'll take some sushi grade ahi. Chop it into small squares. Add some sesame oil.

Then you can put in onions, avocados, tomatoes....whatever.

Find a few things that you can tweak when you need a flavor change and you are money.

BTW, I know we've talked about a caprese salad before. Here's a new take (haven't made it, but going to):

[Nascimento]

Just got my results from blood and urine work. This is after a few months on an increased egg intake. I estimate somewhere from 10-15 eggs a week. I'm 20.

Triglycerides - 0.74 mmol/L (reference < 1.70)
HDL Cholesterol - 1.68 mmol/L (reference > 1.00)
LDL Cholesterol - 2.40 mmol/L (Somewhere greater than 3.00)

Total testosterone - 22.31 nmol/L (8.69 - 29.00 range)

[Nascimento]

I'm currently eating them 2-3 times a week in the mornings.

I'm also considering taking them in raw, just to experiment.

Is it worth upgrading the eggs to an organic source, by purchasing them from a whole foods store?

Currently the eggs I have are bought from costco in bulk.

[JayJuanGee]

(10-02-2013 11:02 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I'm currently eating them 2-3 times a week in the mornings.

I'm also considering taking them in raw, just to experiment.

Is it worth upgrading the eggs to an organic source, by purchasing them from a whole foods store?

Currently the eggs I have are bought from costco in bulk.

I just finished reading this thread, and generally, we are lied to about eggs being bad for our health (regarding the cholesterol).

Basil said it earlier in the thread about the HDL and the triglycerides as the only two important numbers for the blood test. The total cholesterol and LDL do not matter, but if you go to your doctor, the doctor will likely harp on the LDL to try to put you on a statin - which is an ongoing trend.

My weekly number of eggs varies. Some weeks, I will eat just a few, and other weeks I will eat more than 30 eggs. My quantity varies mostly b/c I am also eating other kinds of food, and maybe I want a little variety in my recipes. However, I would not mind increasing my egg intake, if I find more ways to make them in combination with other foods. I usually lightly or fully cook them, and conceptually, I understand that they are probably better for you raw, but i still usually cook them more often than eating raw.

I eat the whole egg, and if you believe that eating only the egg whites is good for your health, then you are believing lies from the mainstream media that is not based in science. We have to remember that there are essential fats and essential proteins, but no such thing as essential carbs.

And, in that regard, eggs have most of the nutrients that we need to live. Gotta eat the whole egg, and if you have bad cholesterol numbers (triglycerides and HDL), those numbers will likely improve the more eggs you eat.

Nascimento: Like you, I frequently buy bulk at Costco 5 dozen of eggs will run between $5-7. It is not worth it to buy organic eggs at Costco b/c they are $3-4 per dozen and those eggs are from grain fed chickens.. which grains screw up their yolks with omega 6s.

Sometimes, i do find a farmers market with good prices. The $2.50 per dozen that TheDude mentioned earlier in this thread sounds like a good price, and I may have to check it out in Santa Monica. Yes, best if the chickens are freely pastured and eating grass, and bugs to obtain omega 3s in their yolks. If the chickens are being fed grains, then better to find another source for your eggs b/c the grains are going to change the fat profile of the yolks from Omega 3s to omega 6s - though if i cannot get freely pastured eggs, I will still eat the regular eggs in bulk b/c they are still very nutritious even though they are missing the bugs in their diet, which would be better for us with the omega 3s.. b /c I would prefer not to eat bugs and have the chicken eat the bug, instead.... and i just eat the eggs... Yummy, nutritious and inexpensive... and you can eat as many as you want.

[Basil Ransom]

"Is it worth upgrading the eggs to an organic source, by purchasing them from a whole foods store?"

Funny, I was wondering the exact same thing. The organic cage free eggs at Costco are 2-3x costlier. Aside from a thicker shell and sturdier yolk, I'm not sure I can tell the difference. I don't even like the taste of eggs that much, I just eat it to feed myself. Think I'm just going tonswitch back to the $2 for 18 eggs. I don't think the Costco five dozen eggs are much of a deal because those eggs are slightly smaller.

[JayJuanGee]

(10-03-2013 11:36 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

"Is it worth upgrading the eggs to an organic source, by purchasing them from a whole foods store?"

Funny, I was wondering the exact same thing. The organic cage free eggs at Costco are 2-3x costlier. Aside from a thicker shell and sturdier yolk, I'm not sure I can tell the difference. I don't even like the taste of eggs that much, I just eat it to feed myself. Think I'm just going tonswitch back to the $2 for 18 eggs. I don't think the Costco five dozen eggs are much of a deal because those eggs are slightly smaller.

I agree with you Basil about the Costco eggs b/c of the reasons that I stated earlier, in which on the package the Organic say that the chickens are fed grains. However, The Dude had mentioned the farmers market in Santa Monica on Wednesdays. I was going to check out that market and ask the farmer whether the chickens eat grains. If they do not, then it would likely be worth it to pay about twice as much and to get your eggs from a non-grain source. That is my sense of it, but maybe I am just speculating b/c i have not specifically seen any studies or noticed a difference in myself between grain eggs and non-grain eggs.

Maybe The Dude can chime in to let us know if he knows whether the eggs at the Santa Monica market are grain free and others may chime in if they know about whether grain free has made any difference for them. I know people frequently will claim the yolk is darker yellow / orange when the chickens are not eating grains.

[hoops330]

I've recently started throwing a raw egg into my protein shake. I can't taste it but I'm hoping I don't get salmonella.
I buy the organic, cage free, vegetarian fed eggs. More expensive but if you've ever been in a chicken house you'd understand why.

[amity]

@Hoops330 bro, I'm also hitting up the raw eggs on the regular now
Like you, i'm keeping it to the quality organic ones though, I wouldn't go raw on a normal egg
I mix it with some lemon, a little butter and sea salt, some spirulina and ACV, tastes reasonably ok considering!
And packs a serious nutritive punch
One thing i would add though is better to do this in the first half of the day
I've tried it in the late evening a couple of times and felt slightly ill an hour or so later, although it passed after 15/20 mins

[Edmund Dantes]

I heard you don't absorb as much protein when you eat raw eggs compared to cooked ones. I like cooked eggs better anyways. More to do with it (omelette, scrambled, fried, poached, boiled, etc.) than sucking down some cold, gooey shit.

[JayJuanGee]

(10-03-2013 04:37 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  

I've recently started throwing a raw egg into my protein shake. I can't taste it but I'm hoping I don't get salmonella.
I buy the organic, cage free, vegetarian fed eggs. More expensive but if you've ever been in a chicken house you'd understand why.

Doesn't vegetarian fed eggs mean that the chickens are eating grains? In know that Costco's organic eggs say that the chickens are eating grains, right on the label.

Best case scenario is that you want the chickens to eat bugs and grass etc.. and NOT to eat grains and if you are paying more for "organic, cage free, vegetarian fed eggs" then you are not getting the benefits of free range chickens.... b/c to me "vegetarian" means no bugs and probably means grains...

There are those kinds of ploys everywhere about organic and many of these other BS lables to get people to pay more, but not receive much if any extra value.

The below link concerning shopping for eggs and the labels that are used was posted earlier in this thread, and I think that it bears repeating... that people should understand that some of the labels do not add value but instead cause the merchant to extract more dollars from our pockets.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/egg-purch...z2gdSldAfD

[amity]

According to Mercola, you don't get as much benefits from cooked eggs as raw, particularly if you nuke the little bastards
At least if you're cooking them, keep them soft boiled, as runny as you can handle, that way you'll still get most of the benefits