Quote: (04-09-2012 05:51 PM)assman Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2012 05:35 PM)garygroundwork Wrote:
being huge and ripped like a competitive body builder-that can't be done by anybody yes u will need drugs and to compromise your health
Zyzz started off fairly skinny. It's not clear to me that he could have ever gotten to his size without juice. And he was far from hyooge. With loose fitting clothing on, he looked pretty normal.
And even if he could have gotten there without juice, it might have taken many years.
I realize Zyzz isn't a great example b/c he's dead, but seems there were a lot of factors at play besides the juice.
That said, I'd bet a lot of guys who got into juicing because of Zyzz did it because they wanted to appeal to girls like he did. But looking at his pics from when he was skinny, you could tell the guy had flair. I'd bet there are plenty of beefy guys who don't get laid or only barely get laid. Muscles != game
Dude is listed as being 100kg which is pretty big.(Wiki)
The thing about roids is that if you are skinny with very little body fat then they will help you tremendously, due to his body type he did not have to worry about getting fat. He is young and was constantly taking clenbuterol, which is a very strong fat burner that I believe was designed for horses.
His death was caused by recreational drugs like coke and ectasy. It seems like he led a rock star lifestyle and in the end his heart said no more, funny enough he died in Thailand.
The trouble with roids is you get hooked onto the look you have when you try them, after your first cycle you will generally blow up and then pretty much lose most of what you gained. So of course you try another cycle and add a different mix, now you are hooked and you feel down when you are off them because you don't have that pumped look.
Personally, I know dudes who have been on them without a break for years. Yes they are jacked but everyone knows they are on juice, which is not the look I ever wanted. The downside is these dudes have serious side effects because they did not give there bodies a break, the worst one being able to sustain an erection. These dudes are in there 20's and need viagra (etc) at all times to perform.
I will say until you have tried it, you cannot imagine how women will respond too you. I have had hot girls simply walk up to me and grab my chest/arms like I was a piece of meat, it gives you a high knowing that no one will fuck with you and all that.
I have been off them for a good while, but they helped me when I plateau'd in the weight room.