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The Republican Primary is a Sham!?
02-15-2012, 10:03 AM
If we didn't think the political process in America was a joke before, this Republican Primary is proving it.
Iowa: First Romney wins, then Santorum
Florida: Supposed to be "winner take all" for delegates, now its being contested?
Maine: Three counties votes weren't counted (strong Ron Paul counties) and Romney wins by under 200 votes?
And it's so damn confusing with all these non-binding "beauty contests", caucuses, delegates; every state is different. It makes it impossible to follow. I kind of doubt there is a single person in all of America that knows exactly what is going down.
Even when political "experts" try to explain this stuff, they start stuttering and stammering like a chimpanzee on Crystal Meth.
Hell, Ron Paul's Campaign adviser is claiming they are winning all the delegates.
If more Americans cared/paid attention, everyone would be calling this thing a complete sham.
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02-15-2012, 10:43 AM
The entire political system is a sham.
Personally I lost faith in the system in 2004. After G.W. stole the 2000 election, the American people supposedly turned around and voted him back for a second term.
It's all bullshit, and both parties have had one thing in mind for a long time - screwing the American people for every dime, a favor to their corporate campaign donors.
Our good friends in the U.K. have had it figured out for a long while - an old anarchist poster read, "Guy Fawkes - the only man to ever enter parliament with honest intentions."
No politician in the U.S. Congress has gone there with the intent of helping the lower, middle, and working classes. Period.
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02-15-2012, 12:00 PM
When it takes $1B to run for president (what Obama is likely to raise, and close to what the R candidate will as well), then you know there is a problem. How can that possibly be sane? The only person I am actually interested in is Ron Paul, but I just don't see the establishment letting him win the nomination.
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02-15-2012, 12:39 PM
@Tenderman do you have your facts right? Gore wanted those counties to do a re-count because someone was bilking the system and many people stepped forward to testify to that. Gore actually IN FACT won those counties which means he would have won Florida. That means the 2000 election was a sham. Whether it was by the government or by some random guy, who knows, but it was a sham. Period.
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02-15-2012, 01:12 PM
Bush didn't "steal" the 2004 election, that's a bunch of shit. Parties cannot steal general elections because the other party is there to check them.
But this republican primary is indeed a fucking joke. I think it's all rigged. Ron Paul has been cheated out of many votes and wins in different states and he's not strong or rich enough to contest them all. The party establishment will pick whoever it wants, and even if the people don't pick the "right" candidate the super delegates will do the dirty work at the actual convention.
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The Republican Primary is a Sham!?
02-15-2012, 02:03 PM
Quote: (02-15-2012 01:12 PM)durangotang Wrote:
Do you really think there is a difference, besides skin color, between Romney and Obama?
Take a look at their career paths. One had a lot of success in the private sector. Obama has written that during his very brief sojourn in the private sector he felt like “a spy behind enemy lines.” So yeah, there's a difference.
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02-15-2012, 05:23 PM
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 02:03 PM)Brian Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 01:12 PM)durangotang Wrote:
Do you really think there is a difference, besides skin color, between Romney and Obama?
Take a look at their career paths. One had a lot of success in the private sector. Obama has written that during his very brief sojourn in the private sector he felt like “a spy behind enemy lines.” So yeah, there's a difference.
Romney made his money as a real life Gordon Gekko.
Most people have no idea how leveraged buy outs work.
If they did, they would either: a) hate Romney or b) work for someone like him. (Or both.)
I just LOL when guys who don't work on Wall Street slob the nobs of guys who do.
I spent 10 years in Banking, so I actually know what I'm talking about. Not sure if you do though.
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02-15-2012, 05:37 PM
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:26 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:23 PM)Brian Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 02:03 PM)Brian Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 01:12 PM)durangotang Wrote:
Do you really think there is a difference, besides skin color, between Romney and Obama?
Take a look at their career paths. One had a lot of success in the private sector. Obama has written that during his very brief sojourn in the private sector he felt like “a spy behind enemy lines.” So yeah, there's a difference.
Romney made his money as a real life Gordon Gekko.
Most people have no idea how leveraged buy outs work.
If they did, they would either: a) hate Romney or b) work for someone like him. (Or both.)
I just LOL when guys who don't work on Wall Street slob the nobs of guys who do.
I spent 10 years in Banking, so I actually know what I'm talking about. Not sure if you do though.
In other words, you're a guy with an agenda.
Just embrace amoralism. You ripped people off for years to enrich yourself.
Oh well.
Survival of the fittest and all that.
as usual, you're proving your ignorance on the subject matter
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02-15-2012, 05:52 PM
And if Paul ran as an indy it would likely guarantee Obama getting re-elected.
The problem we have is we have a big group of people that seemingly want a quasi socialist state, while no one wants to pay for it.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
And we certainly can't just keep borrowing money to pay for all the entitlement programs we have let alone expanding those programs.
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02-15-2012, 05:59 PM
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:50 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2012 05:45 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
And for those claiming that Ron Paul is having the election stolen from him. Gimme a break. I actually like the guy, but let's be honest here, he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the nomination. His support amongst the general Republican electorate is not strong enough to ever propel him to the top. And even if he did somehow cinch it, there no way he'd win against Obama.
It's funny...Guys say, "Paul can't win," while simultaneously using dirty tricks against him.
Why not just win fair and square?
Why cheat if he's no threat?
Unfortunately thats just not the way politics works in this day and age. Obama's path to the Presidency would have very likely ended if he had lost the Senate campaign against Jack Ryan, in which he was trailing. His staff were able to get sealed divorce documents released that stated that Jack Ryan took his wife (Jeri Ryan, actress) to swingers clubs. This caused him to pull out of the election, and Obama won against the last minute fill in. When the stakes are as high as they are anything goes. It sucks, but it is what it is.