Looking forward to what kosko has to say about this situation.

You mean to tell me that the media can just release a new video and all of a sudden get Ray Rice fired amidst his wife supporting him. She is obviously one of those masochist types and the decision on to charge her husband lies on her. This situation reminds us that everything is on camera and is being tracked. I can only imagine 10 years from now with the surveillance state.

Quote: (09-09-2014 10:57 AM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Quote: (09-09-2014 10:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

How do you even explain this ? Stockholm syndrome ? Or maybe she really loves the guy ?

I don't get it.

Maybe it was really an isolated incident? Maybe they had some other fight leading up to the incident and nobody knows about that? The very funny thing is Rice didn't lie and the everybody knew that he had hit her. When the actual video of him hitting her gets released there's a shitstorm. I bet TMZ/SJW are happy that Rice is out a job and the women he is married to is now with an unemployed bum.

It could be, but from the way he reacted after hitting her in the video, something tells me she's been in a fight with him before.

Quote: (09-09-2014 11:13 AM)Chunnel Wrote:  

Quote: (09-09-2014 10:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quote: (09-09-2014 10:19 AM)getswole Wrote:  

Look at the guy, he's 100% street, he's a fighter. I'm ex-mil. You don't start them but you finish them. Overwhelming force. Not that I'd do this myself, but the guy is an animal, really? You poke this fucker in the eye and expect anything less?

Men understand consequence - let me rephrase that - real men who have experienced battle, strife and violence first hand.

The first rule of violence is overwhelming force - they guy probably has an 85 IQ. He's a fucking animal, like no one knew this?

Quote: (09-08-2014 10:38 AM)DonJuanBrown Wrote:  

Wow, seriously guys? 220 lb of solid muscle NFL stud knocks his fiancee out COLD. She hit her head on the hand rail. If he wanted to send her a message, he could have given her a Sean Connery smack. Assuming this video is 100% legit and untampered with, Rice took things way too far. This is pretty bad and Rice deserves more than just a two-game suspension.

Just goes to show that too many dudes join RVF to hate on women rather than learn how to fuck them...

Ray Rice is a Rutgers graduate. I highly highly doubt he is low IQ. I know guys that had classes with him. Before this drama they told me how fucking smart he is and all these wonderful things about him. I asked one of them a while back about Ray, and he had a hard time talking about it. It was like a close friend died or something, he was extremely dissapointed.

One thing about Ray Rice I always thought was interesting was that he once said on Jim Rome in an interview that he had never had a concussion. Not in college nor in the pros. When I heard that I laughed out loud. I thought that was complete bullshit. It's possible to have a slight level 1 concussion and not get many symptoms out of it, hence why some players can pass the concussion protocol test quickly and get back out there.

CTE's biggest issue is the way it affects judgement and decision making in the front part of the brain. For a guy that never had a concussion "allegedly", he certainly made a decision so terrible, considering his great intelligence and spotless reputation.

Then again, maybe he was an asshole that none of us knew?

Not to argue semantics, but did Rice actually graduate from Rutgers? He did leave for the NFL after his junior season and was never redshirted.

Rutgers football does pride itself on graduating a very high number of its athletes (especially football players) so I would not be surprised if he took the steps after his junior season to finish his degree.

Good question. I have found this on a scouting report:

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As a junior, Rice totaled 1,332 yards and 21 scores on the ground. In the season opener vs. White Plains High, he gained 105 yards on just four carries. He also excelled on the basketball team, starting at point guard. He led the team to the state finals in 2003-2004. He graduated with a 3.7 GPA.

Rice enrolled at Rutgers in 2005, turning down scholarship offers from Arizona State, Penn State and Syracuse. Rice earned Freshman All-American honors as he totaled 1,120 yards and five touchdowns on 195 carries (5.7-yard average) and 1,185 all-purpose yards, despite starting just five of 12 games that year. His 1,120 yards set a school freshman record and he was the team's first 1,000-yard rusher since 1994.

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RAY RICE
I'M GOING BACK TO SCHOOL
Gotta Get My College Degree!
1/31/2014 7:46 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE
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Ray Rice is no dummy ... telling TMZ Sports he's GOING BACK TO COLLEGE so he can finally get his degree.

The Baltimore Ravens running back was out in NYC last night when he revealed that he recently enrolled in online classes at Rutgers University in an effort to lock up his diploma.

The 27-year-old admits he's still a long way from donning the cap and gown ... but says he's determined to finish what he started back in 2005.

We've learned ... Rice is currently taking 4 courses:

-- Intro to Logic
-- Public Speaking
-- Employment Law
-- Diversity at work


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/31/ray-rice-c...z3CpticPzO

So far that is all I can find for now. I would like to know what his major was. I recall one of those guys that knew him said he got into Rutgers on his own without a scholarship and walked on to the team. You cannot have an IQ of 80 something and have a 3.7GPA in high school, nor get into Rutgers and work 3 years with an IQ of 90s either.

TravelerKai, I agree that he's in the wrong for punching her. My point was just that it wasn't like he was swinging for the fences and trying to knock her head off. It was a defensive move, and the punch itself wouldn't do that much damage in any other situation. It just so happens that he had a size advantage, she stepped right into it (which you know increases the damage done), and she hit her head on the rail.

Quote: (09-09-2014 11:41 AM)Deuce Anna Half Wrote:  

TravelerKai, I agree that he's in the wrong for punching her. My point was just that it wasn't like he was swinging for the fences and trying to knock her head off. It was a defensive move, and the punch itself wouldn't do that much damage in any other situation. It just so happens that he had a size advantage, she stepped right into it (which you know increases the damage done), and she hit her head on the rail.

Right, and she "stepped into it" because she was rushing toward him aggressively. The media doesn't really want to mention that, though.

While a certain possibility (however low), the chances of him being an utter troglodyte are very, very high. Because ya' know no colleges like recruit imbeciles with great athletic records and bend them diplomas - never would happen.

I'm sure he's a rocket surgeon.

Quote: (09-09-2014 10:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Ray Rice is a Rutgers graduate. I highly highly doubt he is low IQ. I know guys that had classes with him. Before this drama they told me how fucking smart he is and all these wonderful things about him. I asked one of them a while back about Ray, and he had a hard time talking about it. It was like a close friend died or something, he was extremely dissapointed.

Because, ya know there aren't any high schools that coddle their start athletes either. Hah.

All speculation. On both sides. This is a tribal argument at this point, if you love the game then every football player "earned his degree" because it validates your viewpoint and lifestyle. If you went to an ivy league school and saw that some of the neanderthals that comprised the athletic teams never showed up to the same class you took and still passed the class, well you have a different opinion. And they're like assholes, everyone has one.

I'm done with this line of discussion.

Quote: (09-09-2014 11:27 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

You cannot have an IQ of 80 something and have a 3.7GPA in high school, nor get into Rutgers and work 3 years with an IQ of 90s either.

Looks like Joe Biden's trying to solidify the women's vote for 2016.

"It's never, never, never the woman's fault. No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman...This whole culture for so long has put the onus on the woman...The next challenge is making sure, ironically, we get college presidents and colleges to understand that they have a responsibility for the safety of women on their campus."

Most of what he said isn't true, women can say and do whatever they want, they are the perpetual victims of America. And I know VPs don't have all that much power, but what's with high-up politicians wasting their days talking about shit like this. The country is a mess, I'm sure he could find a better use of time.

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:39 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:23 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Heh, she still got married to him a month later.

And this is why no one should care.

Why people are white-knighting for a wild broad who gets the tingles thinking about how her man can take care of business and doesn't take shit from anybody is beyond me.

She was an idiot for marrying him. I imagine she did it to protect the gravy train. And now, thanks to TMZ, that gravy train has ended or been seriously damaged. So in the end, she should have had some self respect and not married him. And sued in court, etc.

They probably shouldn't have married each other, but they did. We can guess at their reasons. The fact is that Janay Rice could've called off the engagement, sued Ray's ass for half his future earnings, and have been the next great heroine of Feminism. She probably could've won a seat in Congress with all the residual fame.

But the fact is that his wife is against the decision. Some chick on twitter posts that "she's so sad to read Janay Rice's statement"

https://twitter.com/marikatogo/status/50...5706344449

Why is she sad? Because a woman is making a statement about what she wants for her life?

No, she's sad because Janay Rice's desires don't line up with hers. Janay Rice, whatever her reasons, wants to move on, but the rest of the world wants "justice" regardless what the victim wants. Women are fully capable of managing their own lives, except in the case of domestic abuse, and then they need the full protection of the State and Society, whether they want it or not.

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If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels.

Seems to me that Janay Rice sees right through every SJW and white knight's motivations. In all the discussion I see around Ray Rice, Janay Rice's statement is being almost universally ignored.

Quote: (09-09-2014 11:27 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Good question. I have found this on a scouting report:

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As a junior, Rice totaled 1,332 yards and 21 scores on the ground. In the season opener vs. White Plains High, he gained 105 yards on just four carries. He also excelled on the basketball team, starting at point guard. He led the team to the state finals in 2003-2004. He graduated with a 3.7 GPA.

Rice enrolled at Rutgers in 2005, turning down scholarship offers from Arizona State, Penn State and Syracuse. Rice earned Freshman All-American honors as he totaled 1,120 yards and five touchdowns on 195 carries (5.7-yard average) and 1,185 all-purpose yards, despite starting just five of 12 games that year. His 1,120 yards set a school freshman record and he was the team's first 1,000-yard rusher since 1994.

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RAY RICE
I'M GOING BACK TO SCHOOL
Gotta Get My College Degree!
1/31/2014 7:46 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE
013114_ray_rice_launch_v2
Ray Rice is no dummy ... telling TMZ Sports he's GOING BACK TO COLLEGE so he can finally get his degree.

The Baltimore Ravens running back was out in NYC last night when he revealed that he recently enrolled in online classes at Rutgers University in an effort to lock up his diploma.

The 27-year-old admits he's still a long way from donning the cap and gown ... but says he's determined to finish what he started back in 2005.

We've learned ... Rice is currently taking 4 courses:

-- Intro to Logic
-- Public Speaking
-- Employment Law
-- Diversity at work


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/31/ray-rice-c...z3CpticPzO

So far that is all I can find for now. I would like to know what his major was. I recall one of those guys that knew him said he got into Rutgers on his own without a scholarship and walked on to the team. You cannot have an IQ of 80 something and have a 3.7GPA in high school, nor get into Rutgers and work 3 years with an IQ of 90s either.

Rice was set to go to Syracuse in 2005, until they got rid of Pasqualoni as head coach, then Rice switched his commitment to Rutgers, so he was always on scholarship. I also came across an article when then Rutgers AD Tim Pernetti asked Rice after his Super Bowl victory if he was on pace to get his degree. Though that would've been in 2013.

I hope he has or does complete his degree, cause he'll need it after this shitstorm.

   


Just a reminder guys, Chris Brown still has a career.

I wonder why

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/r...story.html

Quote: (09-09-2014 01:10 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

Just a reminder guys, Chris Brown still has a career.

I wonder why

Chris Brown went the bad boy route with his career though. After the whole incident happened he had one of two choices, Go the Gospel route or Thug route, he chose the latter

Quote: (09-09-2014 12:50 PM)RockHard Wrote:  

Seems to me that Janay Rice sees right through every SJW and white knight's motivations. In all the discussion I see around Ray Rice, Janay Rice's statement is being almost universally ignored.

Great point, the one who was harmed wants to move on and yet the public wants to continue to make it an issue. They will claim that if her situation is not treated with the utmost care, etc. then other less "famous" people will have lessor chances to get justice. Just sort of nonsense. Also, that maybe they were not brave enough to get justice in their situation so they want it vicariously through someone else. As usual, women want someone else to be the leader.

There was a woman on Chris Matthews who said something that had Ray Rice punched a man then he wouldn't have gotten the counseling program he was admitted to instead of jail time. WTF? How would she know, his fiancee/wife was fully supportive of him. That was the only way he got to avoid jail time. But the lady forgets that. Because that wouldn't help her position.

I have been feeling this way for a while, but I am pretty much done with Western women. I operate under the no victim mentality. That it takes 2 to tango. You got into a fight with some asshole at the bar, both of you are at fault, you both decided to go to the bar. If one of you didn't go your fight doesn't happen.

You have the right of way and are crossing the street but texting and get hit by a car, sure legally the driver is at fault, but in reality you were not being responsible. No victims both responsible.

Ray Rice beats his girl, is that the first time? Or were there other signs before that. Because if there were and she chose to ignore them, well then she has to own the problem also.

Quote: (09-09-2014 05:49 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

Quote: (09-09-2014 01:10 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

Just a reminder guys, Chris Brown still has a career.

I wonder why

Chris Brown went the bad boy route with his career though. After the whole incident happened he had one of two choices, Go the Gospel route or Thug route, he chose the latter

Not surprising in the least. Why give up that cash and pussy cow of the bad boy image.

Only me here who thinks she is only upset because his pay cheques are now in the gutter?

I give it 6-8 months until she divorces him and goes after some other NFL guy.

I will just leave here this little comparative pic - but we all know about feminist-hypocrisy, so no surprise:

   

Roger Goodell is going to be out of a job soon also.

Report: NFL Received Ray Rice Video In April

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Just another example of someone who should have trained a bit more in grappling. She was begging for a guillotine choke

In all honesty though, spitting in someone's face is fucked up and never justified. It definitely seems like there was some back-and-forth here, I don't think anyone is blameless, and he shouldn't be portrayed as a monster just for being involved when she clearly was being physically violent as well.

But...it's hard to argue that saliva is an effective self-defense mechanism, unless you were trained in the Dilophosaurus school of martial arts.

If she spit on him, than this is self defense right?

Spitting on someone is considered an aggressive action, right?.

We must allow people to defend themselves from aggressive attackers.

If someone gets spit on, they are allowed to defend themselves.

Right?

I think he used too much force in defending himself but I still think he has a right to defend himself.

Spitting on someone is assault, right?

Quote: (09-10-2014 04:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

If she spit on him, than this is self defense right?

Spitting on someone is considered an aggressive action, right?.

We must allow people to defend themselves from aggressive attackers.

If someone gets spit on, they are allowed to defend themselves.

Right?

I think he used too much force in defending himself but I still think he has a right to defend himself.

A nice smack across the face is well worth it.

Quote: (09-10-2014 04:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

If she spit on him, than this is self defense right?

Spitting on someone is considered an aggressive action, right?.

We must allow people to defend themselves from aggressive attackers.

If someone gets spit on, they are allowed to defend themselves.

Right?

I think he used too much force in defending himself but I still think he has a right to defend himself.

From what I'm reading he spit on her.

Quote: (09-10-2014 04:49 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

From what I'm reading he spit on her.

Oh, well, than that does change things a bit.

Maybe, it was "mutual combat", meaning they both attacked each other at about the same time.

I thought that she spit on him first?

If he spit on her first, he is wrong.

Alcohol, drugs and pussy have ruined many men.

Quote: (09-10-2014 04:57 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2014 04:49 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

From what I'm reading he spit on her.

Oh, well, than that does change things a bit.

Maybe, it was "mutual combat", meaning they both attacked each other at about the same time.

I thought that she spit on him first?

If he spit on her first, he is wrong.

Alcohol, drugs and pussy have ruined many men.

I agree that it appears there is significant back-and-forth.

Spitting is a fucking disgusting thing to do and is indicative of low class. However, there's blame on both sides.

This is a couple's dispute, as evidenced by both their comments, and should be best left to the care of those most affected by it: the couple.

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This is a couple's dispute, as evidenced by both their comments, and should be best left to the care of those most affected by it: the couple.

Ironically the married couple.