Quote: (07-12-2014 07:17 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:
Yeah I do agree with you, but being a nihilistic player is a reasonable reaction to all this feminist bullshit, especially if you are content on staying in the West. I think the be all, end all should be bringing about traditional family and strong alpha males who are civilised. Otherwise this feminism will just spread and there will be no safe zones. Rooshvf members will have to search for traditional housewives in war zones in the Middle East.
You live in Russia right now dont you? I lived in Volgograd for three years as well as Samara for 1 year. met some gold diggers but most women were family oriented. I didnt even "game" chicks per se but I did go on hundreds of dates, a new date almost every night. the girls would give it up after a few weeks or even a month dating after you give them the illusion that you are getting "serious" with them. A lot of them complained that its hard as fuck to find a decent guy, and by decent they meant not too ugly (Russian standarts for men are incredibly low) not a drunk, with a job and not abusive. they dont seem to be asking too much do they? Ive been in serious relationships with three different women (the last one I brought over to Germany) and never had any bad experiences.
Im not idealizing Russian women but as long as you stay out of Moscow where people are quite materialistic and speak the language, know the culture, socialize with easy going students, middle class chicks and such, the chances of meeting a quality woman thats wife material are pretty high. yet Russian men continue to pump and dump their chicks like its no tomorrow and then die by 40 alone and miserable. screwing nice women with good intentions in feminist-free countries just in order to get revenge on american women is stupid beyond words. in order to beat down those ugly feminists I would suggest to give them cockthirst or I dont know how else to call it. if all quality american men go to Latin america, east asia or eastern europe and bring a decent wife fom there, the US women will lose their power. the only american girls worth marrying are the traditional christian types. it will be a good lesson for the new generation of american girls. nobody has to tolerate your bullshit anymore, no men for you to skin alive in alimony and child support. plus you guys need to change the laws, rob women of all of their privileges: employment quotas, alimony, child support, husbands property after the divorce, college scholarships for women and such. but for that the feminists must lose their power.
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I hear you on that, relationships between people and the relations between man and woman is a lot more organic in Russia. You don't have to jump through hoops or become some clown, you can have a genuine conversation and some text book game 101, will be enough to secure some high value women in both looks and character.
I realised living out in Russia, that the Anglosphere hookup culture and culture in general really skewers relationships and people in general. Russia has its problems, but they value relationships a lot more and i think this is far more healthy. If men actually received some genuine feminine affection from girls they were interested in, I doubt men would be flocking to bang sluts and watch internet porn.
It is basic economics what you are describing, already I see a lot of men leaving the U.K and going for East Asian women. For me I won't marry a anglosphere woman or raise a family in the U.K, its ground zero for me here.
I laugh and cringe at the same time, when Western women and zeta males try to shame guys like me for going overseas. Really, what are they going to do to stop us ?
I live a responsible life, work hard, have ambitions and value loyalty. I don't see women in the U.K exhibiting these qualities. The ones who haven't hit the wall at the age of 23 from excessive drinking and sexual conquests. Are often following the example of Samantha from Sex and the City and have this obvious resentment towards men.
These people are just tearing themselves apart, they are really unhappy and most of it comes from deep insecurity and being fed lies from a young age about their nature. Women in the West are raised to dislike men and see them as the enemy, competition, the other half that has to be controlled and kept down, to keep one over them for some historical myths that said women had it way harder than men.
I was born in the millennial generation, I am not from some "backwards' conservative stock. I was raised on this diet of liberal, politically correct views. I have seen first hand what this does and thats why I reject it. It's anti self improvement for the full most.
It will become more common, that the productive men are waking up to this state of affairs and will demand women of virtue. Now that I am getting older and have my shit together, I sense pressure, even from male friends that I shouldn't be living overseas and should get an english woman like them. F*ck that, I don't care if they use shaming tactics against me, Ive seen the other side and won't be going back to that way of life.
I laugh at them, I one time attended an expat event, there was this disgusting feminist across the table. You can see the torment and hate oozing from her. She was saying how Russia should change, on the side of her was her effeminate boyfriend from America (like she was). Clinging on her side like this impending doom. I then look next to me, at this beautiful Russian chick I was seeing at the time. Smart girl, getting an accountant degree, was sweet, feminine, a real person. And then i glance over at the morbid creature. Thinking to myself, why ? for what cause ? should I go back to that way of life.
Like you, I want to see productive men of value, voting with their feet and going overseas. Why even bother with these chicks over here. I will make exceptions for internationals who happen to live in the Anglosphere. But on the most part for what you are getting, its just not worth the effort.
It is only this way because men allow it.
I do find it promising, when I see Eastern Europeans in Britain still sticking to their traditional roots, despite being surrounded by this post modern culture.
