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on average a Swedish girl is more likely to be interested in conversing with an English-speaking guy than with a guy from let's say Asia, Africa or Latin America
I don't think I can agree with that.
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on average a Swedish girl is more likely to be interested in conversing with an English-speaking guy than with a guy from let's say Asia, Africa or Latin America
Quote: (07-09-2012 06:52 AM)solo Wrote:
Well, first of all I don't think English guys "kill" in Sweden but on average a Swedish girl is more likely to be interested in conversing with an English-speaking guy than with a guy from let's say Asia, Africa or Latin America. I think the ability to make herself understood in his native language is a factor in this, as is the the fact that Swedes are more accostumed to anglosphere culture. It's not really an important question whether she wants to show off or not, but that is just something that I have sensed.
Quote: (07-10-2012 06:24 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:
Quote: (07-09-2012 06:52 AM)solo Wrote:
Well, first of all I don't think English guys "kill" in Sweden but on average a Swedish girl is more likely to be interested in conversing with an English-speaking guy than with a guy from let's say Asia, Africa or Latin America. I think the ability to make herself understood in his native language is a factor in this, as is the the fact that Swedes are more accostumed to anglosphere culture. It's not really an important question whether she wants to show off or not, but that is just something that I have sensed.
Yeah I mean obviously nobody is going to clear up there just because they are British. The Swedish are a pretty "cool" bunch though, lots of hipsters, their fashion sense is very often British style, they model themselves somewhat on the culture. Plus places like London are very exciting to Swedes, I have heard that Sweden can be rather dull at times.
And of course, Swede chicks will be more interested in mixing with a guy from Asia, Africa, Latina America etc. I mean what's going to be a better conversation starter, saying you are from London or saying you're from Nairobi?.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:If I would return to Scandinavia, I would go for those Finish sluts, as I am under no ilusion, that there are any girlfriend worthy girls over there. As you said,for something long term, Eastern Europe has way better.
I'm by no means a self declared Sweden expert but I've lived now in Stockholm for the last year on and off. I've dated a Swede more or less seriously and have gotten to know hers and other social circles.
A couple things
#1 Swedes see sex as the most natural thing ever. I love sex as much as any other guy... but I'm not comfortable with my girl going on a coffee with an ex fuckbuddy. Her being cool with when into running into him, all good. But still being friends with an old fuck buddy.. naw. Even with the most normal, non threatening friends.. you can feel some kind of weird vibe around, making you wonder if they ever had a mercy fuck.
#2 Dominance. They love this at the beginning and love you for recognizing that men and women are after all not 100% equal. But after a month or two, they'll start testing you on that. Even the most sweet Swede will end up testing you after 3-4 months on for your masculinity. There's no smooth sailing like with Polish or other EE girls after a while. You see that with the divorce rates. From what I heard, the average marriage between a Swede and a foreigner is 5 years, while between another Swede it's 9 years. You really have to put up boundaries
#3 Even if she seems like the "relationship type" of girl, she's really not. I rate Norwegians better for LTRs, and Swedes definitely better than the superslutty Finnish girls. They are quite faithful but once they're outside a relationship they listen to their hypergamous friends and start dating multiple guy and banging others on the side. I think someone posted around 11 avg partners as "normal" at Uppsala university, lol. Even your sweet nice girl who has had 3 super long relationships has a double digit notch count under her belt. I've banged a Swede on a house party 15 minutes after meeting her once, and I'm sure other people have managed to do better. Once they're out of the country, it's even worse.
#4 Which brings you to another thing.. their slutty friends. The culture has been drawn from "being ok with sex (80s, 90s)" to a Sex and the city culture. In Stockholm I've had girls telling me about their fat friends banging 5 guys the last 7 days and acting offended when I shrugged it off as a thing I didn't care about, especially because I told her that her friend didn't seem happy at all with her life. (ohh! If it was my male friend, you'd high 5 him!!).
#5 Sex and the city lifestyle. You can see that girls 27+ are actively seeking for a provider while still being proud of them banging around with a lot of dudes during their prime years. Swedish guys don't seem to care though.
#6 They can't express their feelings. These girls by culture aren't encourage to show how they feel. They have no idea how to express themselves, become moody and you stand there with your dick in your hand. It made me miss crazy southern Europeans that would scream and after 5 minutes have insane make up sex.
#7 Left wing like crazy. Most of the young 20-30 crowd has been brainwashed with white guilt. They love helping out homeless people (obvious scams, homeless people get treated in Sweden for free) and talk about how they went to Africa on a "personal discovery".
#8 They live above their means, especially since everything in Stockholm is hyper expensive. Education is free, but everything around it isn't. Most of the middle class helps out their kids with some money and some of those chicks actually have a job. But they still go out every night during college to get drunk and be a cum dumpster for the night. The easy access to cheap government loans is a great way for the Swedish government to enslave their students. Most girls I knew that had at least 1 or 2 semesters outside of the country (oooh, best years of my life!! yeah.. best dicks of your life, lol) during their college years, were at around 40k Eur in debt. Guess who gets to pay that? Yep, their first hubby. They love to show you how independent they are at first, but after a couple of dates I've had girls joke about me buying them a coffee because they barely could afford it.
#9 Horrible cooks. Well, that says it all.
#10 They age really bad. You'll see a MILF here and there if they stay in shape but that's it. Their skin wasn't really made for the tanning craze that goes on on these mediterranean islands. Girls 28 already with deep wrinkles from exposure to smoking, drinking and sun isn't uncommon.
After a long time in Eastern Europe, I have lost 99% of the respect I had for Swedish girls.
Compare these points to a feminine caring eastern European girl who despises a SatC lifestyle and see for yourself who you'd rather date. The only good thing about Sweden is how tight knit these social circles are.. but even then.. what's it good for if their friends don't really want to accept you into it anyway. I had to keep myself quite shut about my political thoughts.. and I consider myself very liberal compared to the average American or German.
They're great for one night stands.. but that's it.
Would love to hear someone else's input on this. Especially from the Swedes here.
/disclaimer: 99% of this applies to girls in Stockholm. Haven't really seen anything else regarding how smaller cities are
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
Would love to hear someone else's input on this. Especially from the Swedes here.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#1 Swedes see sex as the most natural thing ever. I love sex as much as any other guy... but I'm not comfortable with my girl going on a coffee with an ex fuckbuddy. Her being cool with when into running into him, all good. But still being friends with an old fuck buddy.. naw. Even with the most normal, non threatening friends.. you can feel some kind of weird vibe around, making you wonder if they ever had a mercy fuck.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#2 Dominance. They love this at the beginning and love you for recognizing that men and women are after all not 100% equal. But after a month or two, they'll start testing you on that. Even the most sweet Swede will end up testing you after 3-4 months on for your masculinity. There's no smooth sailing like with Polish or other EE girls after a while. You see that with the divorce rates. From what I heard, the average marriage between a Swede and a foreigner is 5 years, while between another Swede it's 9 years. You really have to put up boundaries
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#3 Even if she seems like the "relationship type" of girl, she's really not. I rate Norwegians better for LTRs, and Swedes definitely better than the superslutty Finnish girls. They are quite faithful but once they're outside a relationship they listen to their hypergamous friends and start dating multiple guy and banging others on the side. I think someone posted around 11 avg partners as "normal" at Uppsala university, lol. Even your sweet nice girl who has had 3 super long relationships has a double digit notch count under her belt. I've banged a Swede on a house party 15 minutes after meeting her once, and I'm sure other people have managed to do better. Once they're out of the country, it's even worse.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#4 Which brings you to another thing.. their slutty friends. The culture has been drawn from "being ok with sex (80s, 90s)" to a Sex and the city culture. In Stockholm I've had girls telling me about their fat friends banging 5 guys the last 7 days and acting offended when I shrugged it off as a thing I didn't care about, especially because I told her that her friend didn't seem happy at all with her life. (ohh! If it was my male friend, you'd high 5 him!!).
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#5 Sex and the city lifestyle. You can see that girls 27+ are actively seeking for a provider while still being proud of them banging around with a lot of dudes during their prime years. Swedish guys don't seem to care though.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#6 They can't express their feelings. These girls by culture aren't encourage to show how they feel. They have no idea how to express themselves, become moody and you stand there with your dick in your hand. It made me miss crazy southern Europeans that would scream and after 5 minutes have insane make up sex.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#8 They live above their means, especially since everything in Stockholm is hyper expensive. Education is free, but everything around it isn't. Most of the middle class helps out their kids with some money and some of those chicks actually have a job. But they still go out every night during college to get drunk and be a cum dumpster for the night. The easy access to cheap government loans is a great way for the Swedish government to enslave their students. Most girls I knew that had at least 1 or 2 semesters outside of the country (oooh, best years of my life!! yeah.. best dicks of your life, lol) during their college years, were at around 40k Eur in debt. Guess who gets to pay that? Yep, their first hubby. They love to show you how independent they are at first, but after a couple of dates I've had girls joke about me buying them a coffee because they barely could afford it.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#9 Horrible cooks. Well, that says it all.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#10 They age really bad. You'll see a MILF here and there if they stay in shape but that's it. Their skin wasn't really made for the tanning craze that goes on on these mediterranean islands. Girls 28 already with deep wrinkles from exposure to smoking, drinking and sun isn't uncommon.
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#7 Left wing like crazy. Most of the young 20-30 crowd has been brainwashed with white guilt. They love helping out homeless people (obvious scams, homeless people get treated in Sweden for free) and talk about how they went to Africa on a "personal discovery".
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The easy access to cheap government loans is a great way for the Swedish government to enslave their students. Most girls I knew that had at least 1 or 2 semesters outside of the country (oooh, best years of my life!! yeah.. best dicks of your life, lol) during their college years, were at around 40k Eur in debt. Guess who gets to pay that? Yep, their first hubby. They love to show you how independent they are at first, but after a couple of dates I've had girls joke about me buying them a coffee because they barely could afford it.
Quote: (07-21-2012 01:20 PM)Vicious Wrote:
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#7 Left wing like crazy. Most of the young 20-30 crowd has been brainwashed with white guilt. They love helping out homeless people (obvious scams, homeless people get treated in Sweden for free) and talk about how they went to Africa on a "personal discovery".
Helping people out (even if it is displaced) and personal discovery is left wing?
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The easy access to cheap government loans is a great way for the Swedish government to enslave their students. Most girls I knew that had at least 1 or 2 semesters outside of the country (oooh, best years of my life!! yeah.. best dicks of your life, lol) during their college years, were at around 40k Eur in debt. Guess who gets to pay that? Yep, their first hubby. They love to show you how independent they are at first, but after a couple of dates I've had girls joke about me buying them a coffee because they barely could afford it.
To work up such a debt you'd have to spend close to the max number of allowable student fund semesters (12) taking close to the max loan (7800 SEK). Granted you're allowed extra loans for studying abroad but that's also capped at a 2 semester max. And why are you quoting money in Eur? Sweden don't carry the Euro. That figure feels highly inflated. I had a total student debt of 150k sek (17k) for my college years, a friend who used the 12 semester max came out at double that. Far more typical figures, will take a decade or so to work off but it's hardly enslavement and a far better deal than what you'll see in most of the western world. I'm in my mid-thirties and I could pay off my loan now if I wanted but since it's only at a 2.65% interest rate I don't even want to since I'd rather hold on to the capital at such a modest payback.
And a Swedish guy paying a girl's student loan? Utter bullshit. Girl's aren't even getting their drinks paid here. that kind of assertion makes me question your knowledge and objectivity on the topic...
...speaking of which. Seeing how you have by your own admission (in another thread) been led by the nose by a local your expertise seems a bit questionable. Bitter?
Quote: (07-21-2012 11:03 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
#3 Even if she seems like the "relationship type" of girl, she's really not. I rate Norwegians better for LTRs, and Swedes definitely better than the superslutty Finnish girls.
Quote: (07-22-2012 06:47 AM)Luomu Wrote:
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#3 Even if she seems like the "relationship type" of girl, she's really not. I rate Norwegians better for LTRs, and Swedes definitely better than the superslutty Finnish girls.
If statistics are to be trusted, an average Finnish girl (not in Helsinki alone) lost her virginity when she was between 15 and 17 of age and around two thirds of the adult population have had less than 10 partners (most of them having had five to ten partners). In a recent study only 21 % of females answered "YES" or "MAYBE" when asked if she would cheat on her partner if she would not get caught.
Naturally one would have to add a bit of "Helsinki extra" to the results and understand that these results are most probably not the same for Finnish and foreign(-looking) males.
Quote: (07-22-2012 06:49 AM)trainwreck Wrote:
Interesting. Do you have a link to this? I think the "helsinki" effect is maybe the reason for that image that I have of Finnish girls. Most of my easiest lays have been in HEL and even Roosh admitted that milliklubi was a meat market.
Would be even more interesting to have such a study that shows statistics for that kind of behavior across all nordic states.
Quote: (02-15-2014 01:02 PM)Booyah Wrote:
Anyone got any idea where Swedish go to Erasmus ? which country they mostly choose?
I was wondering if there's a huge difference between picking up a swedish in Sweden or abroad
Quote: (02-17-2014 12:10 PM)Paska-aivo Wrote:
Since they are very close to the Anglo-Saxon culture. For studies, very popular destinations are USA, Australia, UK, And the rest spread out in Europe, no top destination. Yes there is a difference, as people wrote, in Scandinavia most people have tight social circles. When they are abroad they loosen up.