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Quote: (08-26-2013 07:16 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

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DVY, how many places have you been to? Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

I agree with DVY for the most part with the game+language+funds, but the X factor is also looks. If you look like Sloth in Goonies you can have those three and you probably wont get very far. DVY, we have met and I would say we both have above average looks and height which I wont discount makes things easier in any corner of the world.

Looks is one of the things on the forum that I think is not factored in enough when considering others' success as most people aren't interested in rating themselves. If I don't know what you look like, its tough for me to tell you how will do. I could kill it in a place, and you could strike out, and vice versa.

We all talk about being suited up, etc, which is trying to put our best foot forward in the looks department, but the hand we were dealt with our natural looks also plays a large part and in some cases we blame it on the purple sweater, game wasn't right, etc, when it might very well be that simply she wasn't attracted to you.

Quote: (08-26-2013 07:16 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

Without seeing DVY or anyone else, I don't think you can make the statement above. I haven't hit DC, but I have done what I thought was VERY well in Toronto which I outlined here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6277-page-11.html

DVY could also do his thing in Toronto I'm sure without luck and social circle. Can't say for sure on DC, but I cant imagine it being as difficult as claimed...

I think this is true, looks is rarely talked about.

The other X factor in the game+language+funds equation is how hard one works.

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I have never been to FSU besides Latvia, but a lot of you guys are conflating "pretty boy" with "good looking".

Don't FSU girls like masculine good looking guys?

Or do they really only like "ugly guys"?

My experience in Moscow is that the most upscale, educated and intelligent (mega hot goes without saying) women in Moscow want a man who can protect and provide for them and any future kids. If you look like a burly bear (mea culpa) and other packs of wolves, lions and tigers tend to fear you and give you a wide berth this can work to your advantage. There are a lot of this type in Russia as well.

I found that US Standard Corp Exec suited up look during the days and at dinner and or Black cashmere sport coat or leather jacket with open collar shirt black slacks and shoes (NO Dockers ever) after dinner at bars clubs both worked well - the oligarchs I was with were young and loved karaoke as well and only drank juice, coffee or tea - they liked Nescafe instant as well. The one request a Russian multimillionare asked me to bring over was Dunkin Donuts coffee normal roast both ground and beans - local New England DD's give a deal 3 one pound bags for $19 - so I brought 3 one pound bags and a bag of Paul Newman's organic that I like a lot at McCafes. Was a bigger hit than starbucks.

Russians tend to adopt a lot of American habits (drinking coffee) though they will not admit it (The Oligarch Mikhail Prokorov bought the Brooklyn Nets and owns the Metro NYC Russian Expat SNOB magazine) and quite a few other Oligarchs have set up a not so discreet Plan B in NYC and or Miami so they secretly admire the USA - the young Oligarchs all wanted to see Hollywood of course VIP style and most in Moscow can at least understand English if not speak it as a major international language of biz.

The Oligarchs I met make most of their massive wealth in the FSU and outside of Hollywood had no other real interest in doing any business in the USA - just a safe place to hide a few rubles from Mr. Putin Chairman of Russia Inc. who has indicated he wants to start repatriating Russian Wealth for the benefit of Russia as the oligarchs all break out into a cold sweat - as an aside met a senior NYC banking Exec in Boston recently who shared that he had moved much of the Russian offshore Cyprus wealth out to Abu Dahbi under very favorable terms so Abu Dahbi may become the new upscale Dubai for the wealthy Moscow elites.

Go Figure

Lets NOT forget some of the so called rich Russians are Jewish guys who immigrated to USA and Israel during the 1970's and the later wave in 1980's. They had the skills and sense to take advantage of the break up of FSU. I know in Odessa the NYC Jews have a big business presence behind the legal and illegal shit.

LOL I met one in Moscow who showed me their Israel Passport as well as Russian - paid like $30K USD for it and Israel Citizenship and it allows them to visit the USA at will with never a visa concern.

Slubu - just curious if you do not mind sharing what did the final budget turn out to be for this epic multi country and multi city FSU trip so the rest of us know the amount to set aside accordingly?

Quote: (08-28-2013 12:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Slubu - just curious if you do not mind sharing what did the final budget turn out to be for this epic multi country and multi city FSU trip so the rest of us know the amount to set aside accordingly?

I heard he was selling his sperm. Women want alpha sons.

Quote: (08-28-2013 12:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Slubu - just curious if you do not mind sharing what did the final budget turn out to be for this epic multi country and multi city FSU trip so the rest of us know the amount to set aside accordingly?

I'll have to run the numbers later, but I don't mind sharing whenever I figure it out.

Quote: (08-28-2013 01:23 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Quote: (08-28-2013 12:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Slubu - just curious if you do not mind sharing what did the final budget turn out to be for this epic multi country and multi city FSU trip so the rest of us know the amount to set aside accordingly?

I'll have to run the numbers later, but I don't mind sharing whenever I figure it out.

Make sure to break it down to cost per notch and then run some analytics on it - you know time of day of notch, weather, clothes you wore, shaved/unshaved, cologne used, toothpaste used, polished or unpolished shoes, full moon, types of drinks ordered, most effective opener (guessing the lighter?), hair product used, were you taller than your victims, err dates, etc. and then slap it into a chart - preferably a 3D one.

Of course I am kidding, but some guys might love the minutiae. And I am obviously bored at work

Quote: (08-28-2013 02:05 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Quote: (08-28-2013 01:23 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Quote: (08-28-2013 12:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Slubu - just curious if you do not mind sharing what did the final budget turn out to be for this epic multi country and multi city FSU trip so the rest of us know the amount to set aside accordingly?

I'll have to run the numbers later, but I don't mind sharing whenever I figure it out.

Make sure to break it down to cost per notch and then run some analytics on it - you know time of day of notch, weather, clothes you wore, shaved/unshaved, cologne used, toothpaste used, polished or unpolished shoes, full moon, types of drinks ordered, most effective opener (guessing the lighter?), hair product used, were you taller than your victims, err dates, etc. and then slap it into a chart - preferably a 3D one.

Of course I am kidding, but some guys might love the minutiae. And I am obviously bored at work

Yeah.

I, for one, am very interested in the "lunar analytics" of your swoops.

If you could also cross reference them with NYC, LA, Las Vegas and Miami from a lunar perspective, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.

^^^lets not forget about the Astrology aspects to your bangs as well. Russian women are pretty big into the horoscope and i think you are going to find that you probably had much greater success with Scorpios and Taureses as opposed to Cancers or even Sagitariousees (note: is that even a word??). But we will soon find out.

I think we will need a really robust data set and, preferably, some regression analysis to make sure everything checks out. This has to be a full-proof, failsafe systemic analysis so even a guy with little to no game can replicate your successes.

Quote: (08-28-2013 03:10 PM)Akula Wrote:  

^^^lets not forget about the Astrology aspects to your bangs as well. Russian women are pretty big into horoscopes and i think you are going to find that you probably had much greater success with Scorpios and Taureses as opposed to Cancers or even Sagitariousees (note: is that even a word??)

So I think we will need a really robust data set and, preferably, some regression analysis to make sure everything checks out. This has to be a full-proof, failsafe systemic analysis so even a guy with little to no game can replicate your successes.

I love this board, all about a team effort. Totally forgot astrology!

Reminds me of my high school counselor who said, you want to know if you won before you played. I hopefully have changed a lot since then. No risk, no reward.

In these countries you spend on average 1000 euro per week.Russia is double more expensive than Ukraine. (Moscow double than Kiev, Russian province double than Ukrainian province).Ukraine is more expensive than Poland and Poland is more expensive than CR.
90% of guys lack the funds or the time for any extended vaccations (more than 10 days).So the only opportunity is the kamikaze type of guy who operates in full speed crash and burn like there is no tomorrow.He does a lot of damage to the other guys though that is why he is more despised.
To operate kamikaze without money loss you need serious skills and very quick adaptation. It is a lot of pressure you need to take advantage of every minute.

Can someone bust out some flow charts and graphs on the value of one of these:



VS one of these:



In the FSU?

By country?

Kamaki, don't take it personally, but I feel somewhat misled by your info on Hersonissos and my experiences vary significantly than yours on a wide range of other things you post about, so I'll call you on this one.

In Odessa I spent over 1000eur in a week and if Poland is more expensive than Czech Republic, you definitely aren't talking about Prague.

What are "these countries"?

Prague is double expensive than the rest of CR.Provincial polish cities are about 10-20% more expensive than provincial Czech cities.Situation in resorts like Hersonissos can change dramatically from time to time because the agencies can bring a different crowd of tourists every year.

Quote: (08-28-2013 11:22 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Prague is double expensive than the rest of CR.Provincial polish cities are about 10-20% more expensive than provincial Czech cities.Situation in resorts like Hersonissos can change dramatically from time to time because the agencies can bring a different crowd of tourists every year.

So if you could rank them in a list....how would they stack? I only understood that X is twice as expensive as Y and A is twice as B but didn't get how they rank as a whole.

Is it something like this?
Moscow (most expensive)
Prague
Kiev
CR
Provincial Russia
Provincial Ukraine (cheapest)

So I'm alone in Moscow now. *sniff*

Well gentlemen, what a trip. I'm at the airport now waiting for my flight home to reality. Last night was not eventful by way of a crazy story or interesting tale, but was one of my favorite nights.

I basically just indulged in all my favorite things I experienced in Moscow this trip. Walked around red square during the day. Went to chaihona, our favorite restaurant for dinner. And at night I invited the blonde girl I bedded from the club over for some drinks. We drank, talked in Russian, and of course banged. She even brought me a gift.

I could bore you with the numerous things she did last night that would have made a less experienced man propose, but you can guess those by now. After she left, which by the way it looked like a Hollywood romance drama the way her eyes gave way to strong emotions despite only meeting me a few times, I sat overlooking my view for a few minutes.

For the first time, knowing that I was going back home did not make me sad. And I know why...because I have finally realized it actually is that much better across the sea. It is not a grass is greener phenomena. It simply just is. And now knowing this, instead of just assuming this, has given me calm and peace of mind.

It's no longer if, just when. It could be six months it could be two years, but I know America won't be home for long.

Quote: (08-29-2013 03:50 AM)slubu Wrote:  

It's no longer if, just when. It could be six months it could be two years, but I know America won't be home for long.

Any ideas where you might end up? Plan on somewhere in Russia/FSU? Or want to check out some other areas of the world?

Great trip report man. I read a lot of it, but will have to go back from start to finish because I missed quite a bit as well.

Quote: (08-29-2013 03:50 AM)slubu Wrote:  

Well gentlemen, what a trip. I'm at the airport now waiting for my flight home to reality. Last night was not eventful by way of a crazy story or interesting tale, but was one of my favorite nights.

I basically just indulged in all my favorite things I experienced in Moscow this trip. Walked around red square during the day. Went to chaihona, our favorite restaurant for dinner. And at night I invited the blonde girl I bedded from the club over for some drinks. We drank, talked in Russian, and of course banged. She even brought me a gift.

I could bore you with the numerous things she did last night that would have made a less experienced man propose, but you can guess those by now. After she left, which by the way it looked like a Hollywood romance drama the way her eyes gave way to strong emotions despite only meeting me a few times, I sat overlooking my view for a few minutes.

For the first time, knowing that I was going back home did not make me sad. And I know why...because I have finally realized it actually is that much better across the sea. It is not a grass is greener phenomena. It simply just is. And now knowing this, instead of just assuming this, has given me calm and peace of mind.

It's no longer if, just when. It could be six months it could be two years, but I know America won't be home for long.

You've entertained many of us with your reports, and I'm glad to have met the man behind them.

My suggestion for you is to compile a PDF of this adventure by going back in your threads and copy/pasting them into one compilation. It wouldn't take much work. Upload it somewhere then add a link to it in your signature. Maybe get a Twitter account going. Who knows where it could lead.

Next " Slubu does LA". It be like a cross between Love potion #9 and Singles. Slubu can play VInce VAugn

@RioNomad - yes I know where. I'll play a little suspense game until I can do the comparison thread/post. But it's 100% obvious to me, and my buddy for that matter. There is a clear winner without competition.

@Roosh - I've been thinking about that, glad to hear someone with experience share the same thoughts. I need to catch up with work and will then focus on that. Glad to have met you too, including heading out and the water incident.

@jimukr - I fucking hate LA.

So sad today. I landed in LAX and while waiting for my connection to Las Vegas I just looked around. It is unbelievable how many fat people are in the US. I mean shocking. You forget when you leave for so long, but everyone is fucking fat! I'm not talking pudgy I'm talking fat. Went to a cafe for dinner tonight and they gave us portions fit for 4. What a fucked up country. All I want to do is walk up to a girl and say "privet."

Welcome back to the land of the free and fat! Same thing with me every time I come home - literally cannot believe how overweight everyone is. It's scary and sad. The women of course seem to be leading the pack.

From what I am seeing here of the Germans, Greeks, Israelis and Dutch here on Crete most of their women have taken the liberty to eat like pigs as well!!(( The only really slim women are from EE with a couple Dutch thrown in.

At least you have Vegas coming up!

Quote: (08-28-2013 03:12 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Quote: (08-28-2013 03:10 PM)Akula Wrote:  

^^^lets not forget about the Astrology aspects to your bangs as well. Russian women are pretty big into horoscopes and i think you are going to find that you probably had much greater success with Scorpios and Taureses as opposed to Cancers or even Sagitariousees (note: is that even a word??)

So I think we will need a really robust data set and, preferably, some regression analysis to make sure everything checks out. This has to be a full-proof, failsafe systemic analysis so even a guy with little to no game can replicate your successes.

I love this board, all about a team effort. Totally forgot astrology!

Reminds me of my high school counselor who said, you want to know if you won before you played. I hopefully have changed a lot since then. No risk, no reward.

Congrats Slubu and thanks for an epic trip report.

LOL As a Russian once told me that Russians are really Blonde Blue Eyed Asians who conquered the remnants of Ghenghis Khan drove them out of Russia and took over much of his territories - don't forget the Chinese Zodiac - they one on the paper mats in Chinese restaurants based upon Year of Birth:

http://www.chinesezodiac.com/chinesezodi...bility.php

http://www.chinesezodiac.com/calculator.php

I know a corp VP that hires based upon Chinese Zodiac traits (use calculater then read up on traits) and has had great success - would be curious if equally useful in LTRs...

Well after 22 hours of traveling I finally made it to Vegas from Moscow. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I miss Russia. Somehow made it out to the club, and THIS is what I saw. I had to take video:






Seriously, come on... I almost walked out of the club.

slubu, you went to a fatty strip club? shame on you!

Quote: (08-30-2013 02:27 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Well after 22 hours of traveling I finally made it to Vegas from Moscow. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I miss Russia. Somehow made it out to the club, and THIS is what I saw. I had to take video:

Seriously, come on... I almost walked out of the club.

Da fuq did I just watch? Good going on taking video in portrait mode, no trolling...it placed emphasis on her fatness.

Quote: (08-30-2013 02:27 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Well after 22 hours of traveling I finally made it to Vegas from Moscow. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I miss Russia. Somehow made it out to the club, and THIS is what I saw. I had to take video:

Seriously, come on... I almost walked out of the club.

Man.

It's like a movie cliche. The hero does all this bad ass stuff, saves the world, gets the girl, but at the end wakes up...

...it was all a dream.

Please don't go into depression. We need a sequel.