The fact that you will never truly be pleased. You will always go for another notch, flag, position, experience etc
Even if you have a really good thing with someone you keep asking yourself if you can do better, and since you really can't scale these things the answer will always be yes.
It is somewhat paradoxically a lonely existence.

It can really eat on you.

LMR.

Also knowing that there is a better chick out there than the one bouncing on your cock.

Quote: (02-07-2013 05:44 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

The fact that you will never truly be pleased. You will always go for another notch, flag, position, experience etc
Even if you have a really good thing with someone you keep asking yourself if you can do better, and since you really can't scale these things the answer will always be yes.
It is somewhat paradoxically a somewhat lonely existence.

It can really eat on you.

I think it's about what game you are choosing to play. I know players who have effectively won the game: they went through a period of trials and adventures, and now they are getting what they want from women regardless of it being an LTR or fucking some other guys wife.

In many ways, all of life is lonely. Especially when you are at the top. When you are the social backbone, the alpha male, then you are the tree and everyone else is a branch. You are one of the few that can see the matrix for what it is. Women can see it, but they can't rise above it- they are slaves to it.

I think this loneliness could drive an alpha to want create a son, or to teach his skills to an heir. The alpha male can only truly be understood by other alphas.

Realising what liars all women are, its depressing not because of them being on a pedestal but because they make up 50% of the population ffs.

I don't think it's just figuring out this part of life that is annoying. It's figuring out anything. Human nature seems to be that we want what we don't/can't have. When we finally get it, it's like, 'wtf why don't I feel fulfilled?'

Nothing really fulfills us. The closest we can get is the idea of fulfillment while taking part in the journey of whatever it is you wish to accomplish. Maybe somebody else has experienced otherwise, but this is my take on it.

I think the worst part of being a player is knowing that you'll never be able to have it all.

If you want hot girls, the likelihood of having a fufilling relationship is low.

But if you want a fulfilling relationship, the likelihood of having a hot girl is low.

I think....in a related issue to "harem collapse"....the worst part is that when chicks want to hook up and bang, I really do not feel like it or the timing is not ideal AND when I want to bang, I do not get the ideal chick I wanted (or the best out of the harem) at that specific time.

Something people don't think about is that we have a big time anxiety about how we have to stay uncommitted, can't get married, can't settle down because there are always hotter, younger, newer options out there

What if you were a guy that just wanted a girlfriend so badly and you finally got one and you were just happy?

I know that every girl I date between now and who knows how many years from now is going to get her heart broken in a big or small way

Not saying that we don't have better lives but I wonder if some herbs really are blissfully ignorant?

Quote: (02-07-2013 04:32 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I worked in a hot saloon for about 5 seasons, and saw what happens to players once they hit 40+. Not where I really want to be, creeping out college girls, but ending up with 38+ wall smashers, in the same bar trying to relive out their youth. As the staff, we though it amusing, but sad.

Quote: (02-07-2013 05:44 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

The fact that you will never truly be pleased. You will always go for another notch, flag, position, experience etc
Even if you have a really good thing with someone you keep asking yourself if you can do better, and since you really can't scale these things the answer will always be yes.

Quote: (02-07-2013 05:58 PM)MattC Wrote:  

Also knowing that there is a better chick out there than the one bouncing on your cock.

Yeah... never being satisfied.. never feeling like you've made it, you have it all... I wonder how many of us will end up as 40 year old losers...

Like right now I can have cute 18-22 year old girls into me... That won't last that much longer...

At the moment I have an entirely different problem: I have more girls that are interested in me than I know what to do with... I can either filter them by hotness or predicted sluttiness and see if I can bang them the first time I see them or not

Hard to figure out how to get my work done when I can see a girl every night of the week ha! #playerproblems

Every girl seems attainable.

No girl is ever off the table or out of your league.

You feel obligated to bang every hot girl in your vicinity.

That cute girl that just passed you by on the street with headphones on and a bunch of shopping bags? Why didn't you open her?

A hot daughter eating dinner with her parents at the table next to you while you are out on a date with a girl? Why haven't you slipped her a napkin yet asking for her number?

That smoke-show managing director at work who is married with a kid to a male MD also from the office? Why haven't you figured out a way to sneak her out for a drink after work to see what happens?

Relevant:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-2239.html

Not a player yet.

For those of you who talk about the drinking issues, Paul Janka writes in his book about how he brings all of the girls to a lounge where he knows the people working there. He orders the same drink as her (Vodka + tonic basically) but he has an agreement with the staff that she's getting vodka + tonic and he's just getting tonic.

Game is a means to an end, it's not the end. You can use it in any way you wish. You can have a LTR and ONS on the side. You can have multi LTRs. You can have harem or only ONSs. You can have a LTR and a mistress/lover. It's up to you how you use it. Since it's essentially a tool there is no "downside", the "downside" comes from what you do with it. And a quite a few women are pushing a version of the open relationship now called polyamory.

@Gio, gaming in itself is probably the best anti-aging product out there. Since you have to look as good as you can, always, it keeps you on your toes. If you want to chase young tail you had better be fit, trim, and healthy.

Worst part of being a player?

Not being able to connect like when I was a blue pill. I don't fall madly in love with every girl I see, talk to, or have a connection with.

Of course I still have fun, but I no longer have that anxiety feeling because I know something else will come along (and it does).

Quote: (02-07-2013 11:30 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  

Worst part of being a player?

Not being able to connect like when I was a blue pill. I don't fall madly in love with every girl I see, talk to, or have a connection with.

Of course I still have fun, but I no longer have that anxiety feeling because I know something else will come along (and it does).

I'd say that your connection under blue pill was false- a fantasy that you projected. Oneitis.

Quote: (02-07-2013 11:22 PM)the virgin chronicles Wrote:  

Not a player yet.

For those of you who talk about the drinking issues, Paul Janka writes in his book about how he brings all of the girls to a lounge where he knows the people working there. He orders the same drink as her (Vodka + tonic basically) but he has an agreement with the staff that she's getting vodka + tonic and he's just getting tonic.

Having a few drinks renders the natural frivolity and shallowness of a girl's personality more tolerable.

Though I would, in general, recommend club soda over tonic as a mixer. It's really low hanging fruit if you're cutting or trying to stay shredded.

The separation from friends that get married or have serious girlfriends that run their lives.

If I was blue pill or at least fine with having a serious girlfriend to do "couples" things with others, I think I may enjoy those friendships more that what now seem like a shell of what they once were. I feel too ambitious in many areas of my life right now to spend time with that.

Goes back to not enough time to do everything. I was truly blissful in the blue pill days to have accomplished so little and be so content with it.

I now see every day as a bloody fist fight to write my own autobiography so it turns out the way I want it it to, rather than just letting life wash over me like a tidal wave.

^^ thats good first post.

Everytime I talk to a woman I keep on seeing the hamster happily spinning on it's wheel. I literally cannot 'unsee' the hamster anymore and it has made me much more irritable and short with women. I especially can't take the 'university educated' and 'talented' women, I literally start laughing in their faces. Going down the rabbit has been tough, but I'm so glad that I see women for what they are. Red pill till I die.

Similar to what vicious said, the unending hunger for more/better. I could be with a perfect woman and I know I'd still end up wondering what the receptionist's pussy feels like.

Quote: (02-07-2013 04:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

what happens to players once they hit 40+.

not being the 45 y.o. guy at the end of the bar.

Quote: (02-07-2013 08:41 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I wonder how many of us will end up as 40 year old losers...

So, what is a player to do after 40???

Get married? Settle down? Move to D.R. or SEA?

I expect to be banging women in their 20's when I am 40.

My dad fucked a 17yo when he was 44. I plan on doing the same.

I'm gonna start a blog for girls with daddy issues!

Ha 40 y/o loser is the least of concerns.

40 y/o with freedom to do what you want = win already.

40 y/o locked down and forced to shop at Ikea and taking the kids to the park = loser

What others have said-

the isolation- you end up spending a lot of time by yourself or with girls but always at arm's length. If you do spend time w/others, you keep a mask up to shield your many thoughts. 100% intimacy and the fallacy of true love is impossible.

the hunger- the unending lust

energy loss- the time spent gaming, banging, isolating, and maintaining the flow of girls could be funneled into other more productive aspects (business, health, etc)

cut-off- there is a point at which game is no longer possible. Let us not kid ourselves. At 40 your drive will beginning a steady drop. At 60, its going to be even tougher. At 75, lets just say its going to be near impossible. Yes, this can be maintained by diet, lifestyle and drugs (HGH comes to mind), but how long can you keep that gravy train running?

As a beginner/intermediate in the game, it's the massive ups and downs, and the lack of long-term consistency.

It can sometimes really get to me when I'm having an off day, bombing every single interaction I get into, knowing that maybe just a couple days ago I was on fire, bulletproof in every single thing I said or did.

Then again, I stop feeling down when I remember that just a year and a half ago, something as simple as making a cute girl smile would have made my day.

When you're on a long journey, sometimes you get bogged down in how much further you still need to go, when sometimes you need to remember how far you are from where you started.

As someone who's just starting out, the hardest part is either losing or getting rid of people you formerly called "friends".
I have either gotten rid of or lost 95% of my former friend base, as they don't like my commentary on life, society and women in general or if I find them too omega. I'm also finding it harder to make friends, and as such I only have a small group of friends that condone my new behaviors towards life, society and women. What sucks too is that for two of my friends I have provided game tips, and instead of using it to be a player, they went and gotten gfs while not acknowledging the fact that the resources I gave to them (health, mind and game tips) helped them get a gf, not to mention when they talked with me all the talked about was what beta things they both did. One of my buddies didn't even land a good catch, I wouldn't be surprised if his lizard cheats on him, as she tries to play games with me. I don't talk with the guy anymore, but the lizard still tries to contact me.