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02-27-2019, 12:13 AM
I grew up vegetarian until I was 16 years old. There are good and bad points about it. The reasons my parents raised my sister and I vegetarian was because they disagreed with the horrible treatment of animals on factory farms. Can't say I blame them, current practices are abhorrent. As of right now though there isn't much that can be done. A huge problem with being a vegetarian is it is fucking expensive to actually get the protein and nutrients you need without spending a lot of money on supplements. A lot of meat nowadays though is shot up full of hormones and is processed to hell.
I think a lot of people in society could benefit from the advice of Mike Tyson who said in an interview, "all you need to do to be in shape is eat meat, vegetables, drink water, and work out." I think that simple method is still the best!
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02-27-2019, 02:15 AM
Why do vegetarians and vegans assume that we have found all the trace minerals we will ever find in meat, that are needed to be supremely healthy and just supplement the missing ones aka plugging the holes
As if there weren't new minerals and building blocks being discovered all the time in a whole chicken, a ribeye, sardines?
We may not even know what we are missing on!
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02-27-2019, 02:18 AM
it's not so complicated. Eat plenty of fish and deer etc. and let everyone else go vegan. You will be happy and who gives a you know what about them. You need real food.
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02-27-2019, 02:40 AM
My father when eating dinner would jokingly when look at cabbage and potatoes "better get through the ugly stuff first", before getting to the meat "nice stuff". Now I just eat the good aka meat myself
When salad was occasionally made he called it "rabbit food".
I knew an tough old guy when I was very young he'd often eat raw liver and the like, once he said about grain and leak like foods "that's what we feed the cattle".
Its always stuck with me.
Remember they want a world where the animals can eat whatever they want but you can't, you can admire nature from a distance as you are funneled from Mega City One to Mega City Two, but never actually get involved it, walk out in it and kill your own food. We'll do it for you at a cost. Is there anything more disconnected from nature than not being ok with killing your own food? And then they us tell we are disconnected from nature. You are an animal!
I always laugh at James Cameron being all about the rainforests, and the indigneous "4th world people" in them yet he is vegan and they would laugh at as some kind of mental case that he couldn't kill his own food never mind recoil at the fact of eating of it. They laugh at him in quiet. How could you not?
If they're so great James, why eat like them, live like them?
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02-27-2019, 09:58 AM
^I’m working through my cup of coffee and haven’t fully woken up yet but did you just dox yourself bro? Not a super wise move in this day and age if that’s actually you
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02-27-2019, 10:04 AM
Quote: (02-26-2019 11:09 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:
Quote: (02-26-2019 10:18 PM)CaptainCup Wrote:
Agriculture, on the other hand, is maybe only 20,000 years old, and produces inferior quality protein (e.g. soy, lentils, etc.).
There is something to be said for the notion that we are designed to eat meat. From an evolutionary standpoint, I cannot foresee soy products increasing human reproductive success.
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I do however think you can get sufficient protein from lentils, seitan, chickpeas, nuts, and other sources that won't cause hormonal imbalances. Thanks to the internet there are many resources on how to do this. I think a big misconception here is that being "vegan" means being healthy. This is actually not the case, as one could drink beer and eat french fries + processed food everyday and call themselves a vegan. This is why there is the normie view of the skinny-fat gross vegan "soyboy." A better term and healthier lifestyle would be "plant-based" and not involve processed foods/soy/tofu/etc.
While it may be possible to get enough protein from plants, the quality of protein matters. Plant based protein does not have as good
amino acid profile as animal protein does.
Also, as you get older, the ability to absorb protein degrades, so you must have higher quality protein.
Additionally, the plants, having no active defense measures, protect themselves with toxins. STEVEN R. GUNDRY, M.D., F.A.C.S., F.A.C.C. explains:
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In The Plant Paradox, renowned cardiologist Dr. Steven Gundry reveals that gluten is just one variety of a common, and highly toxic, plant-based protein called lectin. Lectins are found not only in grains like wheat but also in the “gluten-free” foods most of us commonly regard as healthy, including many fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, and conventional dairy products. These proteins, which are found in the seeds, grains, skins, rinds, and leaves of plants, are designed by nature to protect them from predators (including humans). Once ingested, they incite a kind of chemical warfare in our bodies, causing inflammatory reactions that can lead to weight gain and serious health conditions.
The science is still out, but the presence of
anti-nutrients in plant-based foods must be noted.
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02-28-2019, 01:41 AM
What are people's thoughts on insect protein and lab grown meat?
The current system is just not sustainable with the rising meat consumption in China and India. Do you really think that the factory farmed meat system (and the subsequent antibiotic resistance) is the ideal solution?
Other people have mentioned that meat eating is "natural." Not really - humans have continued to evolve since the arrival of agriculture and 10,000 years is plenty of time. We are no longer the same species as our caveman ancestors.
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02-28-2019, 07:32 AM
I find it very interesting that the organic and vegan movement is largely a thing with left leaning women, the same women who are very concerned about refugees and poor people around the world. Don't they realize that if we banned non-organic foods and only ate vegetables, then hundreds of millions would starve? Is this really an expression of the female intuitive psyche at work?
The consequences of organic and vegan lifestyles, would certainly mean a much less globalized world. Much less dependent on world trade. Think about how much beef, bacon and sushi is flown around the world.
I want to make an effort to only eat organic in the new year. It's healthier and it's a direct attack on globohomo food production. We can call it "patriot diet". Thank me later green industry.
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02-28-2019, 07:36 AM
Years ago I ready the original dr Atkins diet revolution. Bought it in a 2nd hand book store in New Zealand somewhere.
It made so much sense that I’ve disregarded all modern advice since.
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03-01-2019, 06:40 PM
A sample of posts on another from by the master of the Carnivore diet, Owsley Stanley on the politicization (re: commercialization) of Nutrition:
"A large body of research, the sort which was used to support the low fat diet fiasco was funded by big agriculture. The important products of big ag are the mass produced, low labour cereal grains, oilseed and sugar, not animal products."
"Meat and dairy are very labour intensive, and do not give a high profit return to the primary producers, the best profit is at the end of the line- at retail, the butcher does pretty well. Thus, there is a high incentive to reduce animal fat, increase vegetable oil consumption and get people to eat grain and sugar. Similarly, the medical profession does not profit from healthy people, so there is no strong motive in the industry to support the truth.
"Although many doctors are primarily motivated to help people, still, a good income is always important. The zero carb diet is perfect for diabetics, however that would cut out the need for constant supervision by a physician, and eliminate the need for a very profitable drug, insulin. The drug industry, well known for placing profit in front of any sense of proper conduct, funds a powerful lobby to the medical profession."
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03-01-2019, 09:55 PM
A lot Vegans just cannot get over the fact a nice animal has to die to feed us. And dont even start with veal, that is a nuclear black pill for them.
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03-01-2019, 10:54 PM
Quote: (03-01-2019 06:40 PM)Jones Wrote:
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Jones, is there a link for this?
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03-02-2019, 07:08 AM
If we are playing the "climate change" game. A wheat farm has greater carbon emissions than a beef farm; not to mention the thousands of little critters killed by combine harvesters.
It is 100% political, disingenuous and eaten up by vegan faggots who have never spent a single day on a farm.
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03-02-2019, 08:56 PM
If Cory “Spartacus” Booker and Alexandria Nutcasio-Cortez are pushing vegetarianism/veganism, then these dietary choices must have usefulness to the leftist, globalist cause. Climate change arguments frequently cite meat consumption and production as a cause of carbon emissions. Whether this is correct or not, it is tied up in the climate change narrative. It doesn’t need to be correct – only to support the narrative. I’m sure a lot of left leaning people, who are vegetarians, have gotten on board with the climate change “crisis.”
Further, climate change is a global “issue” and, as such, would require centralized government programs (i.e. the Green New Deal) to address it. Many commentators have cited that the Green New Deal is just a power grab on the part of the left – an excuse to relinquish control over to the government. Add to this what was mentioned earlier about vegetarianism leading to weaker men, less testosterone, and a cheaper to feed/easier to control population. Control what people eat and you can control almost anything.
I can also see pushing vegetarianism as another serving of Cultural Marxism. Fat chicks with septum piercings are beautiful, gender is chosen, and meat eating is bad. Meat has been important in western culture (Christmas roast, Thanksgiving turkey, Easter ham, etc.) and degrading meat consumption is, in a sense, just another repudiation of the west.
So I do think pushing vegetarianism is important for the left. I would also point out that there need not be a deliberate and sinister plan to create a weak civilization of vegetarians (although this certainly could be the case). As with all cultural phenomena, the results of a particular behavior could be negative or positive to the end game of the powers that be. Negative results will lead to suppression of that behavior while positive results will lead to encouragement of the behavior. I can therefore see encouraging vegetarianism as useful in creating a pool of compliant NPC’s who are ready to relinquish control over their lives to the government.
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03-02-2019, 11:03 PM
I have some vegan friends and they honestly look fucking horrible from it. Many of the vegans who look good are often on TRT and other regenerative therapies that make up for their shitty diets.
Honestly, one of the youngest looking people I know is 40 but looks 25. He does Keto and has been doing it for over 10 years on and off.
I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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03-03-2019, 12:05 AM
There’s no doubt that vegan has become part of the leftist agenda.
A prime example of vegan deterioration. Is Jenna Marbles. I’ll admit, she was always a 6 in the face, but she knew how to put herself together and turn that plain face into a solid 7. Her body was a 7/8. In 2015 she went full vegan and has since slammed into the wall. She’s got 10 million+ subscribers. She’s been doing YouTube for almost 10 years and the majority of her content is monetized. She’s one of the top 100 YouTubers. Translation: she’s raking in cash. But thanks to her vegan BS, she looks bloated and fat. She dresses like a slob because she probably lacks the energy to put herself together. And even with makeup her skin looks terrible.
The latest anti meat BS they came up with this week is “Keto Crotch.” This is an unverified claim that women on low carb/keto/carnivore diets have bad pussy odor. As I said it’s merely speculation that is not verified. But think of the message. They’re saying meat makes your pussy stink.