I recently watched Pinocchio and the Pleasure Island scene really encapsulated for me what it must be like to be a feminist woman in todays world.

In the story Pinocchio takes a trip to Pleasure Island, a place where everything is free. Both he and a big group of boys are brought there initially by coach which is drawn by donkeys, then by boat.






While on Pleasure Island you get to be as bad as you want, do all the depraved things your heart desires and its all "free". Nobody to police your behaviour and nobody to tell you what to do. In feminist speak "Empowered".

Later on Pleasure Island Jiminy Cricket happens upon a huge group of donkeys being loaded onto the boat the boys arrived on and wonders where all the donkeys came from. Here we discover all of the boys have been turned into donkeys and the Coachman will sell them off into slavery for the rest of their lives.






For me the Coachman represents corporations and those who own them behind the scenes pushing the feminist narrative, the boys represent young women, and the donkeys represent older women past their prime realising they will be a corporate slave the rest of their lives.

The initial means of transport, the coach, is being drawn by donkeys, no doubt other boys who the coachman led to the island with the false promises he made. These represent boomer feminists, they power the corporations through consumerism and work for them as slaves instead of having a full and fulfilling life surrounded by children.

Jiminy Cricket represents men because we can see a little further down the road and understand the end goal, depopulation.

Funny you post this. I frequently tell my friends that Pinocchio is one of the last Disney movies of the "old world". People used to 100% believe in this philosophy. Parents and grandparents LOVED Pleasure Island as a teaching tool. This was the WW2/Depression era thinking.

Now look at the Disney crap. Look at the Disney corporation. Hell...DISNEY **IS** PLEASURE ISLAND.

The people of WW2 would be horrified, beyond measure, by today's society. I read a story about a WW2 vet, now about 95, who just moved to Mexico and utterly cut off his contact with the US. He said: "it seems like an alien civilization to me. I can't even bear to watch".

This isn't just a message about feminism or girls becoming stupid.

If you never conquer your addictions (or let your addictions get out of control), then any boy or man will become a stupid donkey that can't think or speak properly anymore.

Quote: (12-24-2018 05:41 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  

This isn't just a message about feminism or girls becoming stupid.

If you never conquer your addictions (or let your addictions get out of control), then any boy or man will become a stupid donkey that can't think or speak properly anymore.

Thats fair, but if you apply it to feminism it speaks volumes about why so many women today are ending up as cat ladies. Cock on demand and access to well paid careers that gives them disposable income to spend on crap. The end result is an indentured slave and by the time they realise, its usually too late.

Quote: (12-24-2018 05:50 PM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

The end result is an indentured slave and by the time they realise, its usually too late.

Of course.
That's been (((the globalist))) plan since day 1.
Produce a worldwide race of dumb slaves that are easy to control.

If they can't kill off and murder all the smart people directly like they did in communist Russia & China, then they just find a thousand ways to make the smart people dumb through endless sense pleasure addictions like video games, alcohol, shopping, porn, and food, and make sure all the children of smart people all have some sort of mental disability, like millions of kids do today.

Therein in a nutshell is how in 1 or 2 generations, the smart ruling class, becomes the dumb donkey slave class.

Quote: (12-24-2018 06:03 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

I didnt know this was part of his body of work but I found this video through clicking on yours and the top comment sums up quite well what I was trying to convey in my original post:






Quote: "If you pursue impulsive pleasures to the detriment of the development of your character, you're going to end up a beast of burden - a slave to a tyrant."

Old World Disney: Pinocchio
New World Disney: Disney (the Coachman) turns Miley Cyrus into a donkey.

Walt Disney would never have allowed this. The demonic globalists celebrated the day they took over Disney.

Personally I don't understand the coexistence of all this appealing to hard evolutionary psychology about female hypergamy and the like with this attempt to fabricate "corporatist" conspiracy narratives as the reason why women today are openly sluttish and hedonist.

Pinocchio is NOT meant to get people outraged over Honest John or the guy who runs the salt mines. Sure, they benefit from the scam and that's not right, but it's meant to encourage a sense of personal responsibility, that you can't get something for nothing, and that if everyone proceeds to consume and destroy rather than create, then you wind up with a dystopia.

Getting rid of the profiteers is like attacking the supply portion on the war on drugs rather than the demand.

As long as people want to pursue hedonism, they will, one way or another.

For various reasons, personal vice has lost any and all social stigma, and that's why women are the way they are today.



Social stigma served an important function, and it's broken. It's more concerned with manspreading and holding eye contact for more than 5-seconds than women destroying their lives.

Quote: (12-24-2018 09:18 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

Personally I don't understand the coexistence of all this appealing to hard evolutionary psychology about female hypergamy and the like with this attempt to fabricate "corporatist" conspiracy narratives as the reason why women today are openly sluttish and hedonist.

Pinocchio is NOT meant to get people outraged over Honest John or the guy who runs the salt mines. Sure, they benefit from the scam and that's not right, but it's meant to encourage a sense of personal responsibility, that you can't get something for nothing, and that if everyone proceeds to consume and destroy rather than create, then you wind up with a dystopia.

Getting rid of the profiteers is like attacking the supply portion on the war on drugs rather than the demand.

As long as people want to pursue hedonism, they will, one way or another.

For various reasons, personal vice has lost any and all social stigma, and that's why women are the way they are today.



Social stigma served an important function, and it's broken. It's more concerned with manspreading and holding eye contact for more than 5-seconds than women destroying their lives.

Women have been shamed for hundreds of thousands of years because shame WORKED. It was a brilliant human social invention, created to keep stupid people from destroying the entire village with their stupidity.

Look at Elephant herds. All female. Run by a Matriarch, who keeps her younger females in line.

I'd say it equally applies to us in the forum as well.

Quote: (12-24-2018 08:49 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

Walt Disney would never have allowed this. The demonic globalists celebrated the day they took over Disney.

THIS. Walt was the epitome of everything they despise: his love for heritage America, his desire to create something of value, his dedication to the American family, etc. He was a true American hero, and it's a sacrilege that these parasites have denigrated the beauty of his work.

We see a similar thing happening to Norman Rockwell now; his paintings are being redone to fit the SJW narrative (such as the recent cover of Time magazine).

Quote: (12-24-2018 06:01 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  

Quote: (12-24-2018 05:50 PM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

The end result is an indentured slave and by the time they realise, its usually too late.

Of course.
That's been (((the globalist))) plan since day 1.
Produce a worldwide race of dumb slaves that are easy to control.

If they can't kill off and murder all the smart people directly like they did in communist Russia & China, then they just find a thousand ways to make the smart people dumb through endless sense pleasure addictions like video games, alcohol, shopping, porn, and food, and make sure all the children of smart people all have some sort of mental disability, like millions of kids do today.

Therein in a nutshell is how in 1 or 2 generations, the smart ruling class, becomes the dumb donkey slave class.

Wouldn't the elite still need smart people to do all the tech stuff?

Quote: (12-25-2018 01:35 AM)nek Wrote:  

Quote: (12-24-2018 06:01 PM)Caduceus Wrote:  

Quote: (12-24-2018 05:50 PM)Steve McQueen Wrote:  

The end result is an indentured slave and by the time they realise, its usually too late.

Of course.
That's been (((the globalist))) plan since day 1.
Produce a worldwide race of dumb slaves that are easy to control.

If they can't kill off and murder all the smart people directly like they did in communist Russia & China, then they just find a thousand ways to make the smart people dumb through endless sense pleasure addictions like video games, alcohol, shopping, porn, and food, and make sure all the children of smart people all have some sort of mental disability, like millions of kids do today.

Therein in a nutshell is how in 1 or 2 generations, the smart ruling class, becomes the dumb donkey slave class.

Wouldn't the elite still need smart people to do all the tech stuff?

Yes.
Thats why they developed autism.

A generation of people which is addicted to very boring but useful tech stuff like loads of data collection, producing endless statistics, and setting up and running very complex systems, but also at the same time devoid of any religious faith or spirituality, and too socially inept to motivate any large group towards effective resistance to their masters.

An upper slave class that is both super intelligent, but also very obedient at the same time.

Remember that very intelligent men have been literal slaves in the past. The power dynamic between slave owner and enslaved doesn't care if you're intelligent. There's multiple accounts of the Romans keeping greek slaves that knew multiple languages and could read and write better than their owners. As well as plenty of jews that handled money and negotiated for their owners, partially because they were better at ir and partially because the "peculiars" were below them. Power doesn't care.

Quote: (12-25-2018 03:40 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  

Remember that very intelligent men have been literal slaves in the past. The power dynamic between slave owner and enslaved doesn't care if you're intelligent. There's multiple accounts of the Romans keeping greek slaves that knew multiple languages and could read and write better than their owners. As well as plenty of jews that handled money and negotiated for their owners, partially because they were better at ir and partially because the "peculiars" were below them. Power doesn't care.

This. ^

Quote: (12-25-2018 03:34 AM)Caduceus Wrote:  

Yes.
Thats why they developed autism.

A generation of people which is addicted to very boring but useful tech stuff like loads of data collection, producing endless statistics, and setting up and running very complex systems, but also at the same time devoid of any religious faith or spirituality, and too socially inept to motivate any large group towards effective resistance to their masters.

An upper slave class that is both super intelligent, but also very obedient at the same time.

A very fitting description of the internet/software tech industry.

Lots of smart people in Silicon Valley who nonetheless seem utterly incapable of thinking outside the box of the progressive-lite culture of the coastal USA upper middle class.

What form is that "effective resistance" supposed to take?

I'm telling you any attempt to go after the proverbial drug suppliers vs. the drug consumers is doomed to fail. It's working the wrong side of the problem.

Quote: (12-25-2018 12:10 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

I'd say it equally applies to us in the forum as well.

I'll bite. Please explain?

@Steve McQueen

In addition to feminism, I would also relate Pleasure Island to the current leftist, entitlement culture. Millennials are tempted with the promises of free education, forgiveness of student loans, and guaranteed wages, etc. As any responsible and mature person knows, nothing is free. There are costs and consequences to everything. Free education (to study worthless crap like gender studies) and other such promises, are unsustainable and create no value if they are just granted to everyone.

Agree CaptainCup, Pleasure lsland looks completely thrashed at the end, turned into a complete shithole.

That's where we are headed as a society if we continue down the path we are on, a huge body of slaves working for a few rich oligarchs.

Taxes are already over 50% in my country, if slavery is tax at 100%, at what point should l start feeling like lm being turned into a donkey?

For such a short scene it conveyed a lot of truth.