In a couple hours I’m going to start Day 2 of a daygame bootcamp with a (I think?) pretty well known instructor. I approached 20-25 girls over 4+ hours yesterday and did a bunch of cringeworthy things I never thought I had in me.

I’m pretty blown away by the positive feedback I received from the girls, some who were super fucking hot. Eye-opening stuff.

I’ll provide a more detailed report this evening.

My girl took the pill today which made her super horny, I never knew that was a side effect, she was kissing me every 2 seconds and she’s already always horny as she is.

We broke in to a park at night time, I took her to a bush and she gave me magnificent head under the moonlight, my first head in public which was great. I then tried to bang her in an abandoned house but it smelled like piss so we left it.

Maybe tomorrow I will try and bang her in public, she seems up for it. I also tried new positions today, the one where her legs are up and together, I’m slowly getting better but this girl makes me cum quick, My pullout game is strong however

I work in a big consulting company, went down to the architecture floor with the excuse of saying their coffee machine is better than in my floor. Got a number in work hours.

Today I woke up to six pictures from a girl who I had banged over a month ago. No conversation between us since then. Granted none of the pictures were sexual just pictures of her and the city she was in. But its always nice validation some chonch is thinking about you. This did really motivate me to go and get it today.

In class (law school not high school or undergrad so the women are older) I had two girls eyeing me hard throughout the lecture. I decided to approach one in the hall which I think is going to turn into something. She asked what I was doing this weekend, I told her I plan on going out to the bars and should be meeting up with some others in our cohort. My rational for not asking for her number was the fact she is very likely to go out with our cohort anyways and I will just see her out.

After hitting the bar with some attorneys I walked back into my law school, pretty intoxicated, where I was blind sided by a girl who previously rejected me. She asked me to come over Friday for a wine night, but while talking to me she invited two others guys. I sense she is either trying to make me jealous, or she is trying to just have another good looking guy at her party this Friday. Either way I think I am not going to go to the "wine night" due to the fact it will just be a bunch of guys jockeying her.

Looking for some advice, do I go to the "wine night" where she has invited other guys in front of me? Could this be a shit test to see if I am intimidated? I was thinking at a minimum texting her, " thanks for the invite, but unless there is a 6 pack of beer and a message by you I cant go". If she is insulted by the text I lose nothing since there was nothing.

I don't feel like much of a player this past month because this girl has convinced me to go exclusive with her in exchange for her doing absolutely everything I ask when I ask. We'll see long that all lasts, she's already copping a bit of an attitude frequently enough to piss me off. While she was out of town I went on 2 tinder dates, one sif'd me (I'm too careless giving thick girls a chance) and the other pulled the whole "we're not having sex tonight" thing and my usual routine and game style just didnt work ended up sending her packing early after she sounded like she was for real telling me how she was on her period and I just didnt want to fuck with it anyway after so much LMR I almost feel insulted.

It's not all bad though. I've been jungle fucking the shit out of the exclusive girl and she's resigned to being my personal bang maid who buys me shit so I'm not too mad, its kind of a good deal. I just woke her up at 1AM and facefucked her and she came 3 times during. 2 times I told her to and the third she asked nicely with my cock in her throat. With no vaginal stimulation, kind of hot. Then my nut bypassed her mouth and I came straight down her throat and put her back to sleep. She tries so hard it's really endearing, I mean she does and says some really beautiful shit and the only real trade off is dumb bitch attitude. She never acts on anything crazy, insults me or intentionally disrespects me and worships my cock; she's bonkers tho. This honestly feels like a bit of a timebomb. Thankfully I have all my bases covered, can move at a moments notice and she knows as close to no functional details about any weak points in my life to ever cause serious damage.

I'm going to test the fuck out of het this coming month. It's my birthday soon, hunting season, and hustle time at work all rolles into one. If she can do her duties during all that I might start taking her more seriously and be more willing to work her through her bullshit mental issues.

Quote: (09-24-2018 09:00 PM)Funkbus40 Wrote:  

Today I woke up to six pictures from a girl who I had banged over a month ago. No conversation between us since then. Granted none of the pictures were sexual just pictures of her and the city she was in. But its always nice validation some chonch is thinking about you. This did really motivate me to go and get it today.

In class (law school not high school or undergrad so the women are older) I had two girls eyeing me hard throughout the lecture. I decided to approach one in the hall which I think is going to turn into something. She asked what I was doing this weekend, I told her I plan on going out to the bars and should be meeting up with some others in our cohort. My rational for not asking for her number was the fact she is very likely to go out with our cohort anyways and I will just see her out.

After hitting the bar with some attorneys I walked back into my law school, pretty intoxicated, where I was blind sided by a girl who previously rejected me. She asked me to come over Friday for a wine night, but while talking to me she invited two others guys. I sense she is either trying to make me jealous, or she is trying to just have another good looking guy at her party this Friday. Either way I think I am not going to go to the "wine night" due to the fact it will just be a bunch of guys jockeying her.

Looking for some advice, do I go to the "wine night" where she has invited other guys in front of me? Could this be a shit test to see if I am intimidated? I was thinking at a minimum texting her, " thanks for the invite, but unless there is a 6 pack of beer and a message by you I cant go". If she is insulted by the text I lose nothing since there was nothing.

If she's a random girl that you don't have any sort of social relationship with I'd say do nothing. Don't go to the party, assuming you are not interested in going, and don't send any type of message. You have made your intentions clear earlier when she rejected you, if she's changed her mind she will find a reason to let you know.

Quote: (09-24-2018 09:00 PM)Funkbus40 Wrote:  

Looking for some advice, do I go to the "wine night" where she has invited other guys in front of me? Could this be a shit test to see if I am intimidated? I was thinking at a minimum texting her, " thanks for the invite, but unless there is a 6 pack of beer and a message by you I cant go". If she is insulted by the text I lose nothing since there was nothing.

Don't go, don't text. Have some dignity and if she asks at some point why, tell her you felt that you weren't required then suggest to met only the two of you. She has to contact you, not you. If you contact her, she will feel that you are hers to pleace.

Quote: (09-23-2018 09:45 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

In a couple hours I’m going to start Day 2 of a daygame bootcamp with a (I think?) pretty well known instructor. I approached 20-25 girls over 4+ hours yesterday and did a bunch of cringeworthy things I never thought I had in me.

I’m pretty blown away by the positive feedback I received from the girls, some who were super fucking hot. Eye-opening stuff.

I’ll provide a more detailed report this evening.

Direct day game has always scared the shit out of me for a multitude of reasons. I decided that I wanted to learn more about it, and that it was worth investing in a coach/bootcamp to help keep me focused and motivated in addition to teaching me some nuances on my approach. Just having somebody who cared about my success throw me into interactions was massively helpful.

We went to an NYC park on a beautiful Saturday and I just decided to shut my brain off and do as I was told. I went indirect a few times to mix it up, but ultimately my go-to was some variation of "Excuse me. Hey I know this is a little random but I thought you were cute and I wanted to meet you."

I approached girls walking slow, fast, two sets solo, two-sets with my instructor, two sets with other students (), and girls on the phone. Out of 20-25 solid, all-in, fully-committed approaches with my very limited bag of tricks, her were some rough stats:

1 genuinely angry rejection
3-4 girls who hit me with an eyeroll/firm no/flat out ignored me
7-8 girls who smiled and enjoyed the interaction, but "had a BF" or didn't give me much to work with
7+ I can remember that were really feeling it and were active participants.

I got 5 solid numbers, I contacted 4 of them, 3 of them responded, 2 of them very enthusiastically. I didn't try to instadate anyone, although I totally could have if I simply asked. I shocked at the positive feedback on my first real go at it, and more focused on taking action and getting the reps in than going on dates or actually SDLing someone

Sunday was pretty uneventful I was emotionally drained and totally not feeling it, although I still had some good approaches.

A few memorable approaches:

-I saw a sexy mediterranean (7-7.5) girl walking fast with huge tits bouncing around. I cut her off, opened with my new go to line, and she hit me with the biggest smile ever. We had a great convo, I threw in a few jokes, and we exchanged numbers. She kept asking me what I was doing later. She was a college freshman. Got the number and kept it moving.

-Almost immediately after, had my one "bad" blowout with a 6.5 artsy looking white girl (not my type). I stopped her and the moment it was clear I was hitting on her she said "I DONT WANT TO TALK TO YOU!" I immediately disengaged and walked the other way. Honestly didn't even a pang of embarrassment or negativity. I had gotten my taste of success moments earlier, and I knew this shit worked.

-A hot brunette 7 college chick walked by me with some Chick-fil-A. I think she had her headphones in. I motioned her to stop and opened with "Hey! Where is there Chick-fil-A around here?" She was friendly and explained where it was. I said I was really craving some, and asked if I could have one of her nuggets. She didn't even hesitate to share and was all smiles! I could have easily pushed it farther but I was still in shock she let me stick my hand right in her box (pun intended)

-A gorgeous 8 European blond with stunning grey eyes and some ink on her back was walking past with her mediocre friend. My coach threw me and another student towards them to go chase them down. I opened the stunner from behind with "EXCUSE ME! I'm sorry your tattoo just caught my eye and I wanted to check it out. Are those...paw prints?" They were obviously fucking paw prints, but I couldn't think of anything else. She looked a little scared and confused at first, but when I heard her accent, I asked about that and found out she was from Prague. We talked about Prague and I told her she had beautiful eyes. Crazy laser eye contact. She LOVED the approach. She gave me her number and told me every opening in her schedule for the next week. This happened even as the other student and her friend were awkwardly staring at the ground in silence right next to us.

-I approached a decent blond girl (6.5) pacing on the phone, who looked like she was in a serious conversation. I went up, got her attention, and said "Excuse me, could you hang up for a minute? I wanted to meet you." She gave me a crazy look, then smiled, and said "let me call you back..." and just straight hung up. This girl was THEE most down out of any of them for the day. She was enthralled. Turns out she hung up on her fiance, and they were here for some wedding planning event. I felt a little weird about getting the number, so after like 3 minutes I said told her that she was awesome and gave her a hug, and then left. I could tell she was disappointed. Fucking sluts, man.

I had a bunch of others that I'm too lazy to type out, but goddamn. This weekend made me a believer in not only direct daygame, but those showboat guys on youtube who are pulling sober girls at 1pm on a Tuesday and banging them out 30 minutes later. That shit is 100% real.

I would recommend a bootcamp to people like me who were scared, but don't spend too, too much money. Most of the growth came from within myself.

Also, anyone who says that daygame has a poor ROI, or believes it is "the worst way to meet women" is a total clown. One of the following are true:

-you're a total pussy who has never made an effort to do an honest, straightforward approach.
-you aren't getting laid at all, period.

I'm 31, reasonably handsome, relatively fit, with very plain bro-ey clothing style. My leading is weak but and my rambling/banter is excellent. I'm on the shorter side of average and bald as fuck, for anyone who is wondering.

Regardless, if you are even somewhat serious about meeting girls for sex or an LTR, you are an idiot if you aren't trying to do this.

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

Piggy backing off my previous post of minimal effort and maximum gains due to NLP.

Last Wednesday, go to my local coffee shop. The manager comes and greets me. I notice a new girl, 8, working there.

Manager brings her over and says "YOU and YOU need to go on a date, ASAP". I write my number on a napkin, hand it over. She messages me after that.

I have seen her 3 times in the past week, shes 22, gorgeous, culturally compatible and ticks most boxes.

Minimal effort.

Saturday, I went to a festival, chatted up another stunner (8). She was outside, looking cold. Point at her "you look cold, put something on before you get sick" and went to find some friends.

I saw her dancing inside and told her "you look like you've warmed up, I am x". Her friend interrupts with "you have 10 minutes to kiss her before we leave".

I pull into her and kiss her. Take her to the bar, buy them some drinks (I really don't care) and continue to make out. Friend starts taking photos and swooning over me. This girl is a biokineticist and this works well as I have an injury I am recovering from so it's a win/win. Also, the best kisser from the past 5 years and I have kissed plenty of women during this time.

Again, minimal effort. I mentioned the NLP earlier in this thread but it's some sort of confidence being oozed doing its magic.

Would love to post pics of these girls but this forum is way too big these days. Not a lot of actionable advice apart from the usual breaking rapport. In clubs or social environments, I like to open with some flirty chirp and then revisit later on as there is no awkwardness and they are comfortable around me.

What nlp stuff noir

Quote: (09-26-2018 05:53 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

What nlp stuff noir

Paul McKenna - Instant Confidence (2 weeks daily of this)
Hypnotica - Sphinx of Imagination (only a few times in the past few weeks)

Quote: (09-25-2018 09:07 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

PM me if you want to know, I don't want to put too much identifying info out there.

In terms of it being a waste of time, I respectfully have to 100% disagree. A successful approach leading to a genuine connection and a number/date is not a waste of time, and a bad approach lasts between 5 seconds to 2 minutes absolute max if you are really swinging for the fences.

Yes, walking circles around town waiting for the perfect moment to ask solo girls where starbucks is is a waste of time as there just aren't enough opportunities.

If you make shit happen (direct approaching girls who are busy, approaching two sets, having willingness to deal with mild awkwardness), there is NOTHING more time efficient than daygame to figure out if there is a spark.

Just want to re-iterate to all the players that long distance relationships do not work. It doesn't matter how much of a "gem" you think she is, relationships are not meant to be done when you're not in the same location.

The only asterick** on this is if she is 100% working towards moving to/with you. Then, it's not a long distance relationship, it's just a brief intermission. However, it's important that you make it clear that things won't work out unless you're in the same place.

Quote: (09-25-2018 06:26 AM)OCZ Wrote:  

Quote: (09-24-2018 09:00 PM)Funkbus40 Wrote:  

Looking for some advice, do I go to the "wine night" where she has invited other guys in front of me? Could this be a shit test to see if I am intimidated? I was thinking at a minimum texting her, " thanks for the invite, but unless there is a 6 pack of beer and a message by you I cant go". If she is insulted by the text I lose nothing since there was nothing.

Don't go, don't text. Have some dignity and if she asks at some point why, tell her you felt that you weren't required then suggest to met only the two of you. She has to contact you, not you. If you contact her, she will feel that you are hers to pleace.

If she asks, simply invite her out for drinks. Don't even bother answering. If she insists on continuing to text you without a private meet, she's merely a vapid attention whore.

Long distance never ever ever works. I've tried and seen it tried in every shape, size, and color.

Quote: (09-26-2018 10:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2018 09:07 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

In terms of it being a waste of time, I respectfully have to 100% disagree.

Then I would invite you to come daygame in San Francisco sometime

Today's update,

Two numbers, one from an 8 and one from a 7.

I didn't do much game at all with the 8 and asked for her at all, just rambled on about the plants and asked for her number. I had pre established value because she knows about me but I barely knew her

The 7 on the other hand I just talked about going out this weekend and I needed a place to stay. She offered for me to come over her place and I could stay over. Real sexual tension between us.

Should I be trying to get the girls to ask me for my number or vice versa. Noting this is day game

Quote: (09-26-2018 06:40 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 10:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2018 09:07 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

In terms of it being a waste of time, I respectfully have to 100% disagree.

Then I would invite you to come daygame in San Francisco sometime

Doesn't Giovonny live out there? He is/was approaching 30+ early 20s girls per week at 40 years old and is considered an RVF daygame legend.

Quote: (09-27-2018 07:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 06:40 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 10:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2018 09:07 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

In terms of it being a waste of time, I respectfully have to 100% disagree.

Then I would invite you to come daygame in San Francisco sometime

Doesn't Giovonny live out there? He is/was approaching 30+ early 20s girls per week at 40 years old and is considered an RVF daygame legend.

He is doing what he can with the hand he's been dealt.

He isn't fucking stunners, that's for sure.

He would be doing better in any other city.

Quote: (09-27-2018 11:24 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (09-27-2018 07:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 06:40 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 10:50 AM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2018 09:07 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Eddie, which instructor?

I would encourage you to remember that you live in NYC, which is a mecca for daygame. Results are not going to be near the same in other cities, which is why many guys claim it's a waste of time. I can tell you from personal experience that it's a waste in San Francisco.

In terms of it being a waste of time, I respectfully have to 100% disagree.

Then I would invite you to come daygame in San Francisco sometime

Doesn't Giovonny live out there? He is/was approaching 30+ early 20s girls per week at 40 years old and is considered an RVF daygame legend.

He is doing what he can with the hand he's been dealt.

He isn't fucking stunners, that's for sure.

He would be doing better in any other city.

How do you know this?

Quote: (09-26-2018 01:40 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

Just want to re-iterate to all the players that long distance relationships do not work. It doesn't matter how much of a "gem" you think she is, relationships are not meant to be done when you're not in the same location.

The only asterick** on this is if she is 100% working towards moving to/with you. Then, it's not a long distance relationship, it's just a brief intermission. However, it's important that you make it clear that things won't work out unless you're in the same place.

100% agree. Unless there is a firm "end date" in sight for when you two will be back in the same post code again, save yourself the heart ache and end it when you/she leaves.

I have never seen a long distance relationship work that didn't have a firm end date.
TBH though, even with that, long distance relationships still suck.



With regards to day game I think you can definitely get the results and it allows you to feel the vibe a lot more. I think you can get better quality as girls guard is down a bit, they aren't surrounded by friends who they feel may judge them and they aren't judging you based purely on looks i.e. Tinder.
However it is very time and energy consuming.



In other news I started an LTR with this girl I've been dating since May. To be honest I've been looking for excuses not to go steady with her but in the end I ran out of them. She's very attractive, sweet, respectful, low notch count and hasn't put a foot wrong from day one. There hasn't been a single read flag.
It seems too good to be true and I am kind of waiting for reality to hit me in the face.

What finally pushed me over the line was my brother was visiting and the 3 of us went to dinner, after which he told me I need to lock this girl down and he doesn't understand why I haven't already.

I wish I could have my cake and eat it too but I don't want to risk screwing this up.

Disagree with this, I’ve been dating my girl for a year and we were long distance for most of it. It actually worked out fine — we saw each other once every two weeks and spent the weekends doing fun shit in our respective cities. We were busy as fuck (still are) and appreciated the mini-vacations we got to spend together.

It just takes the right mentality — it can actually be easier on your schedule if you’re overloaded with work.

Quote: (09-26-2018 06:03 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Quote: (09-26-2018 05:53 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

What nlp stuff noir

Paul McKenna - Instant Confidence (2 weeks daily of this)
Hypnotica - Sphinx of Imagination (only a few times in the past few weeks)

Been using the Paul Mckenna confidence hypnosis. All i can say is this stuff works i can't even explain it.

So cheers Noir.

Recounted the same experience below on the 'lame excuses girls use to flake on you' thread. I've been in the game for years and never fail to have some bizarre encounters. Recently ran into one of the worst cases of mid-date, bs flaking I've ever experienced.

She's an online girl who's super compliant and flirty via text. Gives up the digits no problem and agrees to meet after her shift at work with no fuss. We meet up close to the destination so we can walk over (a park a block from mine, with the implication we'd drink and watch a movie at my pad after).

Upon meeting I crack a joke to diffuse the tension of meeting a stranger from the Internet (something along the lines of, 'whew glad we're both real people'). This usually always lands but I can tell she's not receptive. We begin walking and talking and I can already sense the interaction nosediving.

She then says, "I can't stay out late because my dad isn't in good health and I'm flying out early tomorrow morning to see him."(red flag 1)
That's where I knew a SNL wasn't in the cards and her interest level was likely rock bottom. Why didn't she text me this info earlier in the day? Was probably a last-minute audible on her end.

She's almost dead quiet and doesn't ask me a single question aside from the most basic bitch inquiry, 'what do you do?' nonsense (reg flag 2).
I try to deflect with humor that relates to a callback joke from our initial chat on the app. Shes acts as if she has almost no memory of that occurring.

We finally get to the park and within two minutes before even sitting down.
Her: "It's late, I'm tired and should head back" (yikes)
You're lucky if this was fifteen minutes after meeting. Guess it was better she end it, rather than waste more of my time.

Who the fuck did she think she was meeting? This is why I always book tight logistics (right near my pad) with new prospects. Imagine traveling ~30+ mins for the same experience?