Quote: (06-12-2018 01:34 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

John Lennon-Imagine

'Woman' even more so. As much as I appreciate the Beatles, I can't stand John Lennon.

Drake "Practice"

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I taste pain and regret, in your sweat
You've been waiting for me, oh ho
I can tell that you been practicing
I can tell that you been practicing
All those other men were practice, they were practice
Yeah, for me, for me, for me, for me

and

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You only want what's real you just never found it
Don't give them no more chances, ooh girl they had their turn
Everything for a reason, there's things you had to learn from them
But when I get you to myself

and especially

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But let a real nigga make it right
Let a real nigga make it right, you deserve that much
Let me put something in your life
Let me put something in your life, put something in your life
You telling me it's only been a couple other people that you've been with
I'ma trust you I'ma give you the benefit of the doubt, and I'ma love you
You can even call me daddy, I'll give you something to look up to

This is best i could find.

Quote: (06-12-2018 10:51 PM)Kish Wrote:  

This is best i could find.

The Big Pun version was more alpha because Big Pun was an alpha male. Unfortunately Big Pun's poor health & eating problem took his life early. RIP.

Quote: (12-31-2017 09:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

This thread should be more active.

Here's another oldie:

Red-pill wisdom about female-hypergamy, but a poor model for how to actually deal with it.

Plot summary.

Guy gets cucked when his gf runs off with his best friend. Guy responds by wallowing in endless self-pity and tries to call her using the operator, only to dump all his baggage on the operator in a creepy way and then wimping out.

I know Jim Croce at one time wanted to get into movies. if he actually experienced this himself and needed to get over things he should have written a creepy screenplay and mailed it to her like in Nocturnal Animals only to flake on the reunion dinner.

This song is excellent... along with half the songs in this thread.

I feel like there is way to much "I'm 110% alpha male" going on around here. You "I'm always sooo alpha" guys have never even been in a legit relationship. If you get off tinder and porn hub an go out into the real world an meet a real and have a real connection... eventually your gonna get your little alpha heart broken and then your gonna experience beta feelings "Oh noez." An thats where some of these songs stem from. Real people who got into real relationship and had some heart break, an there is nothing beta about. It's bound to happen sooner or later if you are having worthwhile experiences with women.

But but....

If a song isn't about doing coke and fucking a new girl in the ass every night its BETA

Quote: (06-13-2018 10:20 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

Quote: (12-31-2017 09:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

This thread should be more active.

Here's another oldie:

Red-pill wisdom about female-hypergamy, but a poor model for how to actually deal with it.

Plot summary.

Guy gets cucked when his gf runs off with his best friend. Guy responds by wallowing in endless self-pity and tries to call her using the operator, only to dump all his baggage on the operator in a creepy way and then wimping out.

I know Jim Croce at one time wanted to get into movies. if he actually experienced this himself and needed to get over things he should have written a creepy screenplay and mailed it to her like in Nocturnal Animals only to flake on the reunion dinner.

This song is excellent... along with half the songs in this thread.

I feel like there is way to much "I'm 110% alpha male" going on around here. You "I'm always sooo alpha" guys have never even been in a legit relationship. If you get off tinder and porn hub an go out into the real world an meet a real and have a real connection... eventually your gonna get your little alpha heart broken and then your gonna experience beta feelings "Oh noez." An thats where some of these songs stem from. Real people who got into real relationship and had some heart break, an there is nothing beta about. It's bound to happen sooner or later if you are having worthwhile experiences with women.

But but....

If a song isn't about doing coke and fucking a new girl in the ass every night its BETA

Respectfully disagree.

Here's an alpha breakup song that captures the feeling of heartbreak but still maintains an alpha mindset.

Most beta song ever would have to be You're beautiful by James Blunt. He has a severe case of one-itis for a girl he has never even met or talked to in his ENTIRE LIFE. Then, he proceeds to write a song about her.

Isn't Radiohead Creep worse, though?

She floats like a feather, after all.






The only way to appreciate this song is as a critique of this sort of low-self-esteem / pedestalization attitude.

Either way, 278 million views says a lot of guys can relate.

Considering that "Creep" is basically the "C" word for men, I'd say Radiohead hit a bullseye on this.

Quote: (06-14-2018 01:48 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

Isn't Radiohead Creep worse, though?

She floats like a feather, after all.

The only way to appreciate this song is as a critique of this sort of low-self-esteem / pedestalization attitude.

Either way, 278 million views says a lot of guys can relate.

Considering that "Creep" is basically the "C" word for men, I'd say Radiohead hit a bullseye on this.

Your post reminded me of Patrice O'Neal's breakdown of this song.

Quote: (06-14-2018 12:37 PM)Vasily Zaytsev Wrote:  

Most beta song ever would have to be You're beautiful by James Blunt. He has a severe case of one-itis for a girl he has never even met or talked to in his ENTIRE LIFE. Then, he proceeds to write a song about her.

.. and then kills himself.

Sad!
This one wins the thread for sure.

Whoever posted 'Black' by Pearl Jam - what is wrong with you?? Great song.

Gents, you need to understand that Music Industrial Complex is like any other X Industrial Complex - its sole purpose is to make profit and it will produce any bullshit to get customers to buy its products. One of the most absurd cases - a natural, free resource, such as water is neatly packaged, branded, advertised and sold at a premium as bottled water, right?

Think about tobacco industry - in the past, it was cool to smoke for everyone, no matter when and where and however lethal it was to your health and others (as the scientists figured out relatively early but was fiercely pushed back against by the tobacco industry). Now to the contrary - smoking is passé.

A commercial musician is a product that needs to sell, just like cigarettes, football and sugar.

These divisions alpha vs beta musicians are fictitious creations and do not address the psychobiological essence of a man. If I put a black leather jacket, ripped trousers and make a mean face, I may be perceived as dangerous and alpha, yet the cover doesn't make the book in the slightest. Today, you can see soyboys tatted up all over their bodies which used to be done only by felons. How times change...

The true "alphaness", for example, in a basic surivival context can be easily put to the test.

Let us first use the hypothetical Rawlsian devices, such as veil of ignorance and original position. In our test, we adapt them, such that we assume no man knows anything about other men in terms of their past and all men have the same resources at their disposal. Let us put all the men who are perceived as alpha into a high security prison and let them sort themselves out on the dominance ladder.

Then, after such test, you could tell something about a toughness (or weakness) of particular men and some other attributes.

But a commercial musician/band* that has been produced, branded, and packaged by a suite of managers and a recording company to make them money? Please...

* Surely, there are "true" musicians and bands which are great thanks to development over many years of attending a music school and/or continuous practice, industriousness with sprinkling of genetic gift and situational luck but usually unheard of by the masses as they don't get signed up big contracts or pursue fame. Still, it doesn't automatically make them any more alpha/beta than a next guy working in a cubicle office.

I was gonna mention this one, but used the search function to find it was all ready mentioned in this thread. The guys he's singing about that she supposedly shouldn't be with is probably either kaotic or El Mechanico.

Quote: (11-26-2016 11:54 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

A new low. Pretty much everything by Shawn Mendes is pathetic, though.

Lyrics:

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I won't lie to you
I know he's just not right for you
And you can tell me if I'm off
But I see it on your face
When you say that he's the one that you want
And you're spending all your time
In this wrong situation
And anytime you want it to stop

I know I can treat you better than he can
And any girl like you deserves a gentleman
Tell me why are we wasting time
On all your wasted crying
When you should be with me instead
I know I can treat you better
Better than he can

I'll stop time for you
The second you say you'd like me too
I just wanna give you the loving that you're missing
Baby, just to wake up with you
Would be everything I need and this could be so different
Tell me what you want to do

'Cause I know I can treat you better than he can
And any girl like you deserves a gentleman
Tell me why are we wasting time
On all your wasted crying
When you should be with me instead
I know I can treat you better
Better than he can [x2]

Give me a sign
Take my hand, we'll be fine
Promise I won't let you down
Just know that you don't
Have to do this alone
Promise I'll never let you down

(I know I can treat you better) [x3]
Promise I'll never let you down

'Cause I know I can treat you better than he can
And any girl like you deserves a gentleman
Tell me why are we wasting time
On all your wasted crying
When you should be with me instead
I know I can treat you better
Better than he can [x5]

This is, as Vox would put it, the definition of gamma.

Quote: (05-30-2014 10:12 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human, too?
Why you gotta be so rude?
I'm gonna marry her anyway

I would rather stay single than to marry a girl who's going to be rude to me and treat me like garbage

Quote: (08-12-2018 04:36 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

Quote: (05-30-2014 10:12 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human, too?
Why you gotta be so rude?
I'm gonna marry her anyway

I would rather stay single than to marry a girl who's going to be rude to me and treat me like garbage

Actually I believe the one being rude in the song was the girl's dad, refusing marriage.

Quote: (08-12-2018 06:24 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

Quote: (08-12-2018 04:36 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

Quote: (05-30-2014 10:12 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human, too?
Why you gotta be so rude?
I'm gonna marry her anyway

I would rather stay single than to marry a girl who's going to be rude to me and treat me like garbage

Actually I believe the one being rude in the song was the girl's dad, refusing marriage.

Have you seen the video? If any disgusting little creature like that came anywhere near my daughter, I'd beat him unconscious then drop him off at the bathhouse.

Asia isn't safe either.





The model is 翁子涵, here's her instagram

Quote: (08-27-2012 04:43 PM)alecks Wrote:  

100% agreed.I actually think i posted this before.

I hate bruno mars with a passion.everything he says is beta...fact.

But, but perhaps the best musician/performer on the planet.

Quote: (06-12-2018 03:32 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Quote: (06-12-2018 01:34 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

John Lennon-Imagine

'Woman' even more so. As much as I appreciate the Beatles, I can't stand John Lennon.

The title made me think of Imagine Dragons.

I really wish this song wasn't about what it's actually about:






The music is great, and I love these particular lyrics:

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Nothing's as obvious as what is lost
Nothing's as painful as the cost
Let it shine
Let it shine
Like a diamond mine

And I hear all these rumours about you
Yea the trash lines up at my door just to bring me the news
But all it does is make me kind of wonder
Why are people so eager to be so cruel

But if you listen to the whole thing...

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You say the party's over
But like a drunken fool
I never know when to leave
It's just that in the eyes of this beholder
You mean everything to me

Yea you say that you don't love me
Yea you talk about the other boys
And you laugh in my face
But I know when you're feeling sad and lonely
No other boy can take my place

Cause when I look into your eyes
Well our love shines
Yea our love shines
Like a diamond mine

Jesus. This is a song about being a creepy gamma stalker while the woman you think is yours is cucking you. What the fuck, Blue Rodeo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkEdB87yGA
Beta and proud of it

Grenade by Bruno Mars- No woman is worth that much getting yourself killed for.

I mean in love with the shape of you https://youtu.be/JGwWNGJdvx8