Just got the passport renewed fellas...

I'm growing tired of the USA. I really want that baller lifestyle at discount prices. In USA, I make a little under 100k.

I want to start taking guy trips where we can ball out like the rich ppl ball out in NYC/Mia/Vegas/lv..

I'm black, early 30s, decent shape, decent looks.. I'm working hard on my spanish and I know enough to get around. I'll be traveling with a wingman at minimum. He gets tons of girls due to looks.

I want a place that we will be God status. Something like celebs. And a place cheap enough to ball out if we want: vip service, lap dance at strip clubs, limo if we want for cheap, daily massage to start the morning... Atv, four wheeling, whatever...

Where should we go?

I'd like it to be fairly close. Even cooler if it's with a casino. I was thinking Colombia, Costa Rica, DR and even Mexico...

I'd love a vip table for $100 for the night or $20 pvtlap dances. $20 hour massages. Etc etc.

The intel on the DR on this site is outstanding.

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Quote: (12-19-2017 10:40 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

The intel on the DR on this site is outstanding.

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Well, I'm not just looking for that. I've read a lot of post on here and I'm taking ppl up on their suggestion of not traveling to a place solely for beautiful women.

Don't get me wrong, that is an important factor. But, I'd like something to fall back on. Mainly, being able to move around the city pretty safely and like a baller. Popping bottles, renting condos with breathtaking views, daily massages, good eats, etc for cheap.

DR is definitely an option. But what about other places (< 4 hours from US). Bogota, CR, Nicaragua, etc

You are not going to have "celebrity status" in any of the locations you mentioned, unless you are actually a celebrity or you are spending real money. Merely being American or having $100 to spend at a club is not going to do it.

I don't know what your impressions are of Colombia or Costa Rica or DR but I think your expectations are not in line with reality. You are not special in the vast majority of those well trodden countries, especially in the areas that will have all the amenities you seek. And the areas that have all what you want will not be dirt cheap.

You can have a great time in much of Latin America. Sometimes it will be a great value. Sometimes you will have an advantage being a foreigner. Sometimes it will be completely safe. Sometimes the girls will flow like water.

What you're not going to find is "god status" and low cost and cheap limos and able to walk around ballin' at night with no care and awesome views and low price high end clubs and morning dick sucks and cheap in-room massages etc on any reliable basis. If that place existed we would all be there- and then it would quickly not exist. If you want "god status" in Latin America by simply being American and having decent (but not exceptional) cash, it may exist still in some remote locations- places you will have no interest in going to.

If you adjust your demands there are plenty of places you can go to enjoy yourself in LA.

Quote: (12-20-2017 02:47 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

You are not special

OP is special.

Special snowflake.

He used baller and 100k in the same post, giving hope to all of us who aspire for that status.

Sorry if I came across as arrogant guys. Just want decent value for my entertainment. I get it now. My expectations are unrealistic. I'm just tired of American (ie SoBe or Vegas on a busy weekend) prices. I'd still like club scenes and restaurants for a great value.

Thx for clearing that up for me Globalman

What will your budget per week be and how long will you be there for

Probably stay 4 or 5 days. And spend $1200-$1800 (both of us together so $600-$900 a person) not including air bnb/hotel

Well here is the thing. In the poorer countries, there is always a very rich high class that throws money around in ridiculous fashion that you wont see in most western cities. So to go to the best club there and feel like royalty, youre just gonna drain your bank account.

You will get good tables and a few bottles and maybe noticed, but nothing of the sort that you are imagining.

EXCEPT,

My advice is to pick a place a short flight from you where you can go frequently and become known/have a social circle among clubs management and regulars.

If you become a regular at the top club somewhere you can leverage that into connections and access to the top girls. Thats where money helps the most in game i think.

Not sure if there's any place in the world where you can just show up with an above-average Western paycheck and be a celebrity baller anymore. Let me put it this way: I'm in Accra, Ghana at the moment and it's no longer enough to drive a Toyota Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol to be cool. The city is packed with guys driving the newest, biggest and most expensive SUVs: Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Range Rovers and even Porsches. It wasn't much different on my recent visit to Kiev, Ukraine - capital of Europe's second poorest country. Politicians taking kickbacks on billion-dollar deals, guys smuggling cocaine, actual pro ball players: these guys are (almost) everywhere you go, at least in major cities. To them, 100K is a pocket money.

At any rate, throwing money around is a weakness. Just learned from one of my girls who works at the airport that three guys in the cocaine game got nabbed. Kept a low profile at work, but drove Range Rovers, partied constantly, bought a six-story building. It reminded me of our departed member who got away with his crimes and a ton of money, but couldn't help but show it off driving supercars. Too often it's insecurity at work: look, I'm not poor, I'm not a failure.

I once asked a Ghanaian friend where I could by some gold jewelry. She said, "why do you need to wear gold? You are white." In other words, no need to prove I'm not poor. Black or white, it's a good lesson: there's nothing to prove.

Maybe I read this wrong, and you're really just out to have a good time, imitate the jetset lifestyle for a few days. In that case, no offense.

I think the movie Gangster Squad where one of the main characters (Ryan Gosling) picks up the biggest gangsters main girl. Yes, he got good looks but he also has game. I find it fun to be somewhat of an outsider, high end venues with a wing, getting numbers from 8's+ in the smoking area when there guys are in the bar.
I am in a early stage both finacially and agewise so I might have a different opinion in 5-10 years from now.
But I agree with above posters that highrollers are ubiqutious in the world but the way one would become like that is to establish oneself in one city, be consistant, make connections, have the personallity and charm.

To be honest, celebrity status in the US will probably go the furthest. Bitches love celebrities.

Go to DR, you probably won't have celebrity status but you should be alright.

i m white with blue Eyes in lima, i m getting Chicks left and right without spending almost no money. thats baller style

@Akwesi interesting you mentioned Accra.. I didn’t want to seem to bring race into it, but since the author was African-American I was thinking of sub-Sahara Africa.. I’m thinking the cost of living should be a lot lower given how prosperous some of those nations are..

This could be done to a certain extent in Colombia but I wouldn’t recommend flashing too much cash because it would draw negative attention. The biggest issue is the social environment in Colombia, at most bars and clubs the locals go out in mixed groups, sit at a table and socialize/dance among themselves. These clubs are all bottle services anyway, so buying a bottle won’t stand out so much and even if you’re well dressed, good looking guys, the local dudes won’t be too happy if you try to poach their girls. Also, at most clubs you’ll be denied entry if you arrive without girls, so you’ll have to pipeline on Tinder or pound the pavement and run day game. Then you’ll run into the notorious flakiness of Colombian women who are well known for not showing up, especially the hotter ones and especially on weekend nights.

Overall, Colombia kind of sucks for night game because of the above reasons, especially for short trips. However the strip clubs can be a lot of fun, if you spend a bit of cash on lap dances (like 5000 pesos or <$2/song) and buy bottles and give the hoes drinks, it can be a really fun night.

Quote: (12-20-2017 05:17 PM)LoveBug Wrote:  

@Akwesi interesting you mentioned Accra.. I didn’t want to seem to bring race into it, but since the author was African-American I was thinking of sub-Sahara Africa.. I’m thinking the cost of living should be a lot lower given how prosperous some of those nations are..

Unfortunately this is not really the case; Africa is really only cheap if you live like an African. Luxury hotels, limos, champagne, etc. are expensive. And strip clubs and bottle service barely exist here in Accra at least.

Quote: (12-19-2017 08:14 PM)IamLegend Wrote:  

I want a place that we will be God status. Something like celebs. And a place cheap enough to ball out if we want: vip service, lap dance at strip clubs, limo if we want for cheap, daily massage to start the morning... Atv, four wheeling, whatever...

Where should we go?

I'd like it to be fairly close. Even cooler if it's with a casino. I was thinking Colombia, Costa Rica, DR and even Mexico...

I'd love a vip table for $100 for the night or $20 pvtlap dances. $20 hour massages. Etc etc.

My bet would be Manila, Philippines. People speak English, the city has nice areas and some hot girls and labour costs are low as fuck.

Maybe because I experienced nightlife as a "connected" friend...

It's OK to do once in a blue moon at a semi shitty place, prices won't be marked up and I'm sure cities of interest arent doing $1k minimums...

Don't get caught in the illusion of being baller.

Wanna know how to ball? Let's use Colombia since someone mentioned there in post...

1 - Find am airbnb that fits your vibe (I see there is a spot with a pool $84ish per night so split $44)
2 - Pipeline through IG, tinder, FB groups
3 - Day 1 & 2 meet a bunch of chicks, hottest you can find in your presence BUT don't be pretensions, if a chick is decent she might know hot friends...
4 - Host pregame on day 3 and go out, have fun, meet the hottest chicks in your presence

NOTE: Depending on you and wing, take shifts while other works, do shit you wanted to do & later go out together the objective is for THE PARTY on day 4/5 (any cool mixed groups with stunners invite everyone, connect with the dudes)
6 - Look on airbnb for a sick spot to rent for DAY 4 & 5 seen one that splits for $103 per night so $206 ($412 total) just about $100 less "out of pocket" than a bar tab at an NY spot.
7 - Invite the hottest women you've met and tell em all to bring their bikini #PoolParty
8 - Enjoy day 4/5 with a bunch of half naked Colombians having a blast in private (I'm sure everyone will be naked at some point)

There is no reason to "flash cash" if you wanna enhance your experience using money at least do it in a manner where you can control.

Wanna make some lifetime local friends? For the party drop $464 for 2 nights in a 6br (9 beds total) and find 7 of the coolest, connected guys you can find (heck if they're with hot chicks bingo)

You guys are throwing a party that they probably never encountered. Imagine inviting the owner of a spot, I'm sure he can work his magic in terms of girls, alcohol and whatever party enhancements you want.

While their is always a risk of "property damage" gotta use your intuition. These guys aren't going to want to lose their international friendship/connect.

So you, your close mate, and 7 dudes who are connected (if they don't know each other they will now) and 20-30 of the hottest women you can find.

Just send me footage as you enjoy the party...

Personally I have to steer clear of such lifestyle now, it's way too addicting and easy for me to just think of wild ideas like that (along with having the ability to do that)

Such a setup would be way too costly in many parts of US, unless you know the guy who owns the place.

Men in general are lazy always wanting to buy their way, it's not needed. Spend money for life experiences NOT to show status or fake fame.

You mentioned liking strip clubs, how probable would it be for 1 of those 7 guys to know a bunch of hot strippers? Heck, I'm sure somebody knows somebody who knows a pimp who knows somebody who can get the baddest strippers you'd find in Colombian

The possibilities are endless...

You dropped less than $1k for 2 nights connecting with 7 new locals & hand selected the women you wanted for 2 nights.

Same price, is a night with 1 magnum bottle of vodka in a high end club in NY, which in this era has "OK" quality.

Thanks for the input gents,

And yes... I just want to have a really good time in a place where my money seems limitless and the girls are plentiful.

I think back to a night at a very popular club in vegas. We had a table (several of us had to pitch in about $500 a piece), with bottles, security staff blocking off the section and plenty of lovely ladies wanting to come join us (leeches but still fun, haha)..

I'd like to spend most club nights like that on discount prices if at all possible. I'm sure capturing flags is cool but that feeling of "a great deal" is euphoric!

Great idea about going often...That would put Monterrey and CDMX very high on my list.

Quote: (12-20-2017 05:44 PM)scotian Wrote:  

This could be done to a certain extent in Colombia but I wouldn’t recommend flashing too much cash because it would draw negative attention. The biggest issue is the social environment in Colombia, at most bars and clubs the locals go out in mixed groups, sit at a table and socialize/dance among themselves. These clubs are all bottle services anyway, so buying a bottle won’t stand out so much and even if you’re well dressed, good looking guys, the local dudes won’t be too happy if you try to poach their girls. Also, at most clubs you’ll be denied entry if you arrive without girls, so you’ll have to pipeline on Tinder or pound the pavement and run day game. Then you’ll run into the notorious flakiness of Colombian women who are well known for not showing up, especially the hotter ones and especially on weekend nights.

Overall, Colombia kind of sucks for night game because of the above reasons, especially for short trips. However the strip clubs can be a lot of fun, if you spend a bit of cash on lap dances (like 5000 pesos or <$2/song) and buy bottles and give the hoes drinks, it can be a really fun night.

I never found that to be the case even when going to a club with 4 other guys......... or was that the huge fag club in Bogota.... I forget

Quote: (12-19-2017 08:14 PM)IamLegend Wrote:  

I really want that baller lifestyle at discount prices.

You can't.

Living a "baller" lifestyle will cost pretty much the same anywhere in the world.

In terms of your money "going further", sure, you could sit on a beach in Thailand or Mexico and drink some Heinekens at a price lower than that of the US.

However, if you want first world luxuries like luxury hotels, top notch alcohol, bottle service at nightclubs with famous DJs, you'll be paying the same for these things in "developing" countries as you would in the US. Sometimes you'll be paying even more.

Quote: (12-20-2017 11:50 PM)IamLegend Wrote:  

I'm sure capturing flags is cool but that feeling of "a great deal" is euphoric!

Don't get me wrong, but if you want baller status why don't you put your time, energy and funds into actually obtaining baller status?

I understand what you mean and I want the same but it sounds like what you're seeking is instant gratification.

Back in neanderthal times there were no uber eats delivered straight to your cave, you're required to leave your cave out to freezing wearther only partly covered with animal skin and armed with a measly spear to hunt or gather your food. The point here is not that your food tastes better when you work for it, but the pain you have to go through to get that food makes you stronger and increases your chances of survival in the future.

Us humans are hardwired to want to have things -- right now. Everyone is looking for the "secret method to lose x pounds this month" or get ripped or "that one weird trick that gets you all the girls" but they don't exist. You pump iron to lose weight and get ripped, sharpen your looks and social skills to get laid, and plan your success and bust your ass off executing it to get rich. You put in the work and you're not even sure if what you did put you on the right track because there's no immediate pleasure, no immediate sense of achievement, only pain and self doubt.

All you can do is stop focusing on the result and instead try, fail, iterate and focus on getting better at the process because that's the only thing you can control.

Being willing to accept pain today for pleasure later is how ballers are built. Indulging in pleasure today eventually leads to pain later. In the form of processed food, corn syrup, social media, porn, hookers, drugs, whatever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratification

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Walter Mischel developed the well-known marshmallow experiment to test gratification patterns in four-year-olds, offering one marshmallow now or two after a delay. He discovered in long-term follow-up that the ability to resist eating the marshmallow immediately was a good predictor of success in later life.(link)

$100k isn't enough for baller status, sorry pal. Maybe in Venezeula due to civil war.