Hello,

I met a girl online and she agreed to travel with me for 3 days. We'll stay in the same room, but she said more than once "I won't have sex with you. I'll just share the room".

She is single and always reminds me that the first meeting will be sexless.

How do I take advantage of the situation and convince her otherwise? Is there some steps I follow?

She is Ukrainian if that's help.

What does this "travel" consist of? And why did you offer to take a girl you aren't banging yet (and haven't met?) on a paid holiday?

You shouldn't take a girl that you haven't banged yet to a paid vacation. Since you already agreed to do so, I guess you can escalate once you're in the room.

If the said that to you, it means that she's already talking about sex - so from this point just escalate once you'in in the room. However if you get blue-balled, that'll be a lesson to not take girls on a trip without having gotten the bang first.

Lol, dude...

Girls and the "no sex" line is about the clearest ticket to easy sex on the planet.

Let's look at it like this:

Her: Yes I'll travel with you and share a hotel with you
You: Great!
Her: But no sex!
You: oh, ok

And then let's translate:

Her: Yes I'll travel with you and share a hotel with you
You: Great
Her: I'll totally fuck you because why on earth else would I agree to share a room with you, but I don't want you to think I'm a slut, or that I'm easy
You: don't worry, I have everything under control (or so you should).

You just got handed a basket of pussy lemons. You better end up drinking that pussy lemonade.

Quote: (03-08-2017 04:00 PM)CJM Wrote:  

You just got handed a basket of pussy lemons. You better end up drinking that pussy lemonade.

We got a goddamn poet up in here... I'm gonna steal this, hope you don't mind.

Quote: (03-08-2017 04:00 PM)CJM Wrote:  

You just got handed a basket of pussy lemons. You better end up drinking that pussy lemonade.

I'm fucking dying over here.

More context is needed on this. Have you met her before? What type of trip? What's your history with this girl?

Occasionally it can work out - EE girls have that kind of last minute resistance and slut defense. It is natural for women.

There are ways to circumvent it.

Game her before the trip - send her pics of the hotel with the bed. Ask her whether this is good. This will already get her hamster turning and she will imagine being there with you and sleepin in the bed.

Start teasing her and tell her that you sleep naked always - no exceptions and you are not going to start making them for her.

Text Game is effective with women if she is already somewhat invested in you.

Also make it clear to her that you are not a friend and are interested in her.

You will sleep in the same bed of course, but what happens happens.

Occasionally such trips can be working out fine. If not, then it is a learning experience to you - I would rather do it unless you have options up to the bazoo.

Depends how you met her.

If its on one of those goldigger/90% prostitures websites then you may have a hardened out who will milk you for gifts and shit and make your holiday hell

Hahaha, glad you guys liked the lemonade line.

In all seriousness OP, you should be able to close this easily if you have even marginally decent game. That is, unless, you've met her before, got totally friendzoned, offered to finance the trip for her and she's just milking you for your non sexual services. If that's the case, bail now. Get the fuck out and do not waste another second.

Next!

Nah seriously just do it, go for ze seksu anyway, and report back.

OP I don't think I've ever met a girl that said directly to my face or over text that she wasn't going to have sex with me that didn't have sex with me.

She wants to have sex with you. Otherwise she wouldn't agree to share a bed with you. She just wants to make it your responsibility. That keeps her conscience clear.

Ignore anyone in the peanut gallery who tells you not to take a girl on a trip that you pay for. It's your money and you should spend it how you see fit.

A girl outright saying "we aren't having sex" unsolicited typically means you can definitely have sex with her. It's her way of feigning resistance but truth be told sex with you is on her mind without you even bringing it up. Every girl that has ever told me "we aren't having sex" ended up having sex with me that night.

That said, while this is a somewhat risky plan as far as ROI goes, I have also done the same thing (invited a girl out to a weekend trip prior to having sex with her). Enjoy her company and escalate. Simple as that.

Sorry. Should have given more details.

I met many girls online, and some invited me to travel to them, and others we go on holidays. I never paid for their tickets. Always we have sex the first time to step into the room.

However this girl is just amazing. Her pictures makes me hard already. I want her so bad so I didn't mind paying for her ticket (not that expensive). The hotel not expensive too. So it made sense.

She is excited to see the city, etc...but she tells me "I cannot promise you sex". Well I'm new to the game. So thanks for all the tips. Will send you some teasing pictures of what she could imagine.

We are going next week, and there is another girl who might come to the same country where I'll be at the end of the week. So hopefully everything goes as planned.

I only had sex couple of times (6 different girls). I'm in mid twenties. But my last girlfriend gave me a confidence boost. I decided to game more girls from now on.

Quote: (03-09-2017 07:54 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

Depends how you met her.

If its on one of those goldigger/90% prostitures websites then you may have a hardened out who will milk you for gifts and shit and make your holiday hell

Met her online. Nothing to do with prostitutes.

I'm coming to Beirut soon.

Quote: (03-09-2017 02:42 PM)Mr.President Wrote:  

Sorry. Should have given more details.

I met many girls online, and some invited me to travel to them, and others we go on holidays. I never paid for their tickets. Always we have sex the first time to step into the room.

However this girl is just amazing. Her pictures makes me hard already. I want her so bad so I didn't mind paying for her ticket (not that expensive). The hotel not expensive too. So it made sense.

She is excited to see the city, etc...but she tells me "I cannot promise you sex". Well I'm new to the game. So thanks for all the tips. Will send you some teasing pictures of what she could imagine.

We are going next week, and there is another girl who might come to the same country where I'll be at the end of the week. So hopefully everything goes as planned.

I only had sex couple of times (6 different girls). I'm in mid twenties. But my last girlfriend gave me a confidence boost. I decided to game more girls from now on.

"I cannot promise you sex" is almost pure Gold!

That means in female-speak: "I'll fuck you unless the hand of God comes down between us or there is a total absolute lack of chemistry - meaning that you leave my pussy dry as the Sahara." But since you are here already and likely have a modicum of Game and understand women, then I doubt that this will be an issue.

If it is, then it just means that you have to learn more - but if she is up your alley and used the "not promise" statement, then it is effectively green light. She is literally spreading her legs already and just holding her pussy with her hand to check out whether you are at least 50% as good as she expects you to be.

Let me know if you need help with beirut.

As for the girl, is it a website or tinder?

If its tinder ur 99 percent good to go. If its a website ur 90 percent good to go since most are happy to see the city and fuck for a vacation. Others who are shrewder make it their job to milk the men for gifts etc....

But dont fall for this chick as she has probably been flown around by many before.

I know several older men here who do this. Girls are hot but almost all are just semi pros back home.

Just an update: She was hotter than the picture. Had sex first 10 seconds we went to our room. Fully submissive. We went to a sex shop and we bought some toys for her. The good thing is I like to dominate in bed. I did things to her that I never imagined that I'd do to a girl.

But she is down to meet for a second time and she is pretty hot. So why not?

Thanks to everyone for their answers.

OP which country is she from?

"I can't promise you sex" is probably the best thing to hear from a girl you've never met before a trip like this.

Quote: (03-23-2017 05:47 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

OP which country is she from?

"I can't promise you sex" is probably the best thing to hear from a girl you've never met before a trip like this.

She's Ukrainian. My first notch from there.

Quote: (03-09-2017 02:42 PM)Mr.President Wrote:  

Sorry. Should have given more details.

I met many girls online, and some invited me to travel to them, and others we go on holidays. I never paid for their tickets. Always we have sex the first time to step into the room.

Sounds like a good deal/ What websites are these where girls invite you to travel with them and go on holidays? And they always just have sex as soon as you get to the hotel room so you don't have to actually 'game' them at all?

Free prostitutes! I need some of this!

Quote: (03-09-2017 03:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

"I cannot promise you sex" is almost pure Gold!

That means in female-speak: "I'll fuck you unless the hand of God comes down between us or there is a total absolute lack of chemistry - meaning that you leave my pussy dry as the Sahara." But since you are here already and likely have a modicum of Game and understand women, then I doubt that this will be an issue.

Yes. When I was about 20 and didn't know, I visited a pretty 30-something in NYC who offered to let me crash at her place, but made it clear that "all I can offer you is the couch, I just started seeing someone exclusively". Surprised, I assumed that meant I would have to make an effort and might not succeed.

It was the first time we'd ever met. Banged her raw twice that night. The next morning she delivered the very perfunctory "I never do this, what you must think of me" line. She didn't know I'd already seen her MySpace with pictures of her partying. I *definitely* knew better than that and learned something important that day: women say those things to create a paper trail that they are not whores, not because they aren't whores.

It's too bad I didn't know about this forum 4 years ago. I was traveling in Ecuador and met up with a cute Asian chick 10 years my junior with huge knockers and a nice round ass. Former gymnast, a little puffy but still quite flexible (she would stretch in front of me). We decided to go to the next city together and the guy at the hostel (who obviously had my back) gave us a room with one bed.

Girl told me she was going to be "celibate" for a little bit and told me how she felt slutty after she just banged this other guy. If only I had known. So we slept in the same bed for 4 nights and I didn't make a move and thought I was being a good, respectful person. I used to make the mistake of taking what women said at face value because I talk directly so I figured other people do the same regardless of gender. Ha ha ha! Oh well, I won't make that mistake again. I passed up quite a bit of good pussy on that trip due to my complete game ignorance but at least I did manage to bang a local with a nice body, probably a cazagringo.

OMG... I can't promise you sex is even better than we are not having sex... I wish all girls say that to me.

Too bad I didn't know that shit years ago. WTF I was thinking.... .