Quote: (10-07-2016 07:47 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:
The only things that stand out to me is that you have been there 1 week and you have a mohawk. The only guys in China I have ever seen with a mohawk are those male hairdressers in the salons. They are young as fuck and already have girlfriends from school or are not interesting in dating, just getting their feet wet in the salon business. These dudes are typically 25 and under. 28 is kinda too old for a mohawk in China. If I were you I'd get a proper haircut for now, then do what you want later.
You had a second date in China? China (for beginners and moderates) works in the Rule of Three. Three dates are common for a typical lay. Most good girls will not do it faster than that. You may want to read the entire guide for more information, when you get more time. All girls, Chinese or non-Chinese can tell if you are thirsty for pussy, so you need to relax, be easy with the aggression, and figure out how close the deal correctly. Once you do that, all you have to do is repeat the same things over and over, until you get tired of it or want better girls, then we can talk about that.
But first, take it slow, and your speed will improve later. Follow Vacancier Permanent's advice as well. He has been there a while and knows the city you are in.
You are Russian, but yet your written English seems to be really good. Do you speak English at the same level you write it? Can the English speaking girls understand through your accent?
Give Online Game a stronger try and a few weeks. Read through this thread for the details because the tools I used when I was doing this, did not exist. They have Tan Tan, Line, Skout, Cupid, etc. Suits and others will give you tips on that, just post some questions and someone will help you out with it. Take 10-15 mins and make some precanned messages to send to girls in Chinese. There are some in this thread as well you could borrow.
Since you are new to game I would also recommend learning some game basics from the Game Subforum. Just don't use the high aggressive stuff. That shit mostly works in the West or the Anglosphere. Touching and kissing in public are typically taboo. A light touch on the small of their back when walking close to each other is more than good enough. Quick elbow touches worked well for me as well. That stuff lets them know that you like them alot, without spooking the puss in the process. While kisses are private only, talking into their ears, letting your lips slightly graze their ear is money. Don't overdo it, once is usually good enough. Gotta build that attraction, old school romance style with Chinese women.
All in all, you have been their a week. Anti-foreigner views make zero sense from someone like you because a week is nothing. Nothing in any country. There is no way you could form an opinion like that with 1 week of no bangs, and 2 dates. Stay away from that way of negative thinking, otherwise it will show in your attitude while you are trying to get girls. Leave that heavy form of thinking for guys that have been there 6 months plus or several years.
The day I hear Suits saying that China is too anti-foreigner, is when I may either pack up myself or not come back over. I have a Chinese wife and kids, but that won't shield me from mob violence. Suits, Global Entry, Vacancier Permanent, and Fortis have a good feel for stuff and you can trust their judgement on that. If I catch wind of bad news, I will report it as well.
Just don't assume bad luck with girls, regardless of how many weeks you been there, equates to anti-foreigner. That's far, far from the case. If you see a huge mob destroying a Japanese car and chanting death to Japan, that is when shit gets real and you need to go hide. That hasn't happened in years, by the way.
Anyway, keep working with us and be more patient, and you will get that success you are looking for. China is one of those places with a bigger learning curve, but has one of the largest yields outside of the Philippines.
Yes, I know a Mohawk is not the best one cut for my age, but I don't look like 28 more like 24-25, and it is not the typical one, but a more mature one cut. So it actually suits me well for the moment, and looks nice with a suit.
My English is decent, also the spoken one but some people can guess my origin when I speak. But untill now I only met 2 girls who spoke English, the other could barely say a few words.
I followed today some of your advices, and it did indeed improved the situation.
I went to the shops, but not the "upscale" ones, and just chated some girls there and gave them my Wechat on a piece of paper.
The direct approach doesn't work here as I already learned the hard way, eather they are to shy, or emberrased in front of their friends or stuff like that. Or they just look indifferent, so I have no balls to come and speak to them in this case.
I will try online game for sure, it is just that I am not used to it yet.
In Wechat I can see only hookers or fake ones, who try to sell or advertise something. QQ is a bit better to some degree, but still a lot of crap to weed off.
That is why I was relying mostly on approaches in pearson, but I don't have a good opener or a reason to approach them when they are in a group.
I sometimes see how they look at me secretly,but turn away when I look at them, so it is not that there are no opportunities, but more of an approach technique I have to learn first.
In "upscale" shopping malls, it is a bit worse, alot of hot ones with attitude " I want to be a Peris Hilton". Atleast it feels so.
By the way Vacancier , thanks for the Info I will definitely give it a try.