Quote: (02-17-2016 06:32 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Kona: There's nothing desirable about coat-tails when you're the victim of lies and falsely branded a rapist in your home down and that ruins your family rep. There's even talk of boycotts to the family business. Shits getting out of control.

Some little screwball paper in some small corner of the world wrote an article about you. You say that article hurts your feelings and reputation, so instead of sticking to your own forum, which has far less readers, you come here and spread the article around more????

I think the coat tails are exactly what you are after.

According to your various websites (which seem to be working fine?????) your book is an Amazon.com #1 Best Seller. Did anyone from your home town read the book? Do they read your forum, blog, or twitter?

If so, they've seen everything written in the article already.

And why spread only a blurry picture of the article around? It might as well have been Japanese porn there and you call it slander.

You knew full well half the people that saw it would jump right on your bandwagon and agree with you that a horrible injustice had been done to you, just like was done to Roosh. Then maybe those people would look at your website and forum, then maybe buy some books.

I bet you figured that paper wouldn't put the article online. You posted the picture the day before it was on their website.

If it actually was slander and libel, you would have just posted the link, just admit it.

Why not take a clearer picture of the article. Use the camera you use for your blog.

And just a heads up, they have you listed in the "Crime Desk" section, not the "Crimewatch" section. You misquoted the Sunday World, SLANDER!!

I support truth when promoting products, I hate when people try to backdoor their bullshit.

Aloha!

What about the editor?

Where was the reporters' editor when the decision was being made to print the article? It seems they would have some blame also since they are supposed to make sure it is not libel.

Just as a note, it is not slander because slander is with the spoken word:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/l...ation.html
"slander is a spoken or oral defamatory statement "

Awwwwwww Shit! Kona came back to the forum HARD!

Yeah I just read that Sunday world article. You won't be getting anyone on libel with that. What does 'with links to a pro-rape group' mean? Nothing, it's as vague as fuck. If the headline was "Zolo is a rapist", you might have something. If anything, they've been completely reasonable, including all of your defensive responses.

You still haven't answered my question. Have you just suddenly developed as dislike of notoriety, in spite of obviously deliberately courting it with the content of your blog on the world-wide web? Or are you just suddenly annoyed you can't control it? Or do you dislike the mirror being held up at you? Or, like Kona says, are you just agitating on this for financial gain?

You are not Roosh, your character is very different from his, and this situation is not the same.

With respect, Kona:

Firstly, that's the only full pic I had at the time. I'm not in Ireland and that was sent to me by a friend via fb, which was in turn forwarded to him by somebody else.

Second, you're incorrect. My main website IS down and has been hacked, along with several others, including all my books sales page. I'm not profiting here at all. (Plus, links to my website are blocked here anyway). This is part of ongoing war against men in this corner of the internet, so I came here is seek advice and gain allies.

Thirdly, did you read the facts I presented in my last post? This is clearly libel. I'm sure if you were the same situation you'd act as I have.

@Phoenix: Please read my last post, also. Notoriety is fine with me... but being falsely accused of a crime you didn't commit, one that effects your family, is a different story.

Quote: (02-17-2016 01:26 PM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

@Gmac: How can they be? All my sites are hacked.

@Eradicator: The print version had a headline saying, "They schoolkid was the best sex i had all year. She likes to call me Daddy and slapping...It's just not as fun when it's legal."

Note the "..."

You would think I said these things in the same paragraph, or that were at least related to each other. However, these were two independent statements said in completely different articles written WEEKS apart, yet the author has pasted them together with all-powerful, time-travelling elipsis to make me look like a monster, despite the fact that I clearly stated the girl was of legal age in the original post.

It's really quite remarkable.

There is plenty a journalist could attack me on, but is just lazy sensationalism and woefully misleading. More importantly, they've spread a lie that has put me on the front page of their "crimewatch" section on their website.

If this is the case I think you have a very strong libel case. Also, is there a press complaints commission or some such body in Ireland? File a complaint.

Quote: (02-18-2016 05:29 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

With respect, Kona:

Respect noted.

Quote: (02-18-2016 05:29 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Firstly, that's the only full pic I had at the time. I'm not in Ireland and that was sent to me by a friend via fb, which was in turn forwarded to him by somebody else.

You started this thread, your blog post and twitter stuff all based on that blurry picture that is completely unreadable? What if the body of the article said you were a totally awesome dude with a giant magic penis that would never rape anyone. How can you base your outrage off that picture. The time of your posts, and the time the article went on the website don't lie.

Why didn't you ask your friend to send you a more readable copy? I assume they have I phones in Ireland.

Quote: (02-18-2016 05:29 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Second, you're incorrect. My main website IS down and has been hacked, along with several others, including all my books sales page. I'm not profiting here at all. (Plus, links to my website are blocked here anyway). This is part of ongoing war against men in this corner of the internet, so I came here is seek advice and gain allies.

Your main website is down now. Your forum, twitter, and Amazon.com are A-ok.

The signature you are using ON THIS VERY FORUM has links directly to your Amazon site selling books. It goes to amazon even though it says NaughtyNomad.com. To me that seems like just a little more deception, and here you are trying to deny that. Obviously links are not blocked. They work for me.

There is a war against men in this corner of the internet, and you are trying to jump in the middle of it and make a few bucks.

Quote: (02-18-2016 05:29 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Thirdly, did you read the facts I presented in my last post? This is clearly libel. I'm sure if you were the same situation you'd act as I have.

I did read the facts you posted. I also read the actual article. Here is a link to a #1 Bestseller on Amazon.com that might help you understand a few things: http://www.amazon.com/Merriam-Webster-Di...dictionary Just a heads up, I've never met Merriam or Webster, they've never crashed on my couch, and I'm not making any money promoting their products.


With regards to the private message you sent me, calling you out here has nothing to do with anything from the past, or anything to do with Lumiere.

You say you are nothing like him, but you absolutely are. You guys try to pull the exact same crap. You promote his products and vouch for his reputation. Hopefully, you smell better than him, and I doubt you wear a filthy leather hat.

And why keep calling him LUMIERE at all? Just come out and call him JJ ROBERTS. There you are being deceptive again. Is it the same guy, or do I need to add JJ ROBERTS after Lumiere to the list of people who's ass I'm gonna kick if I ever see again?

I still have the number (although it is disconnected) to the "Lifestyle Coach" JJ Roberts/Lumiere referred me to. That guy can probably help you get through these trying times with the accusations and all. I can send it you. The number is probably off because the lifestyle coach is busy traveling the world and being a playboy, not because he's too broke to pay the bill. JJ ROBERTS/LUMIERE will make a little kickback, too.

Or, you can contact Lumiere to get it through your fully-functioning forum. His username is JJ ROBERTS.

Aloha!

Chill out dude

Damn I know Lumiere pissed off Kona back in the day, but now I want to know what happened, all I can remember is that the dude was kind of pretentious and wanted to hit up Kona for a favor like crashing at his pad for a few nights, not sure if that exactly warrants a beat down, I feel there may be more to the story...?

Quote: (02-18-2016 06:51 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Damn I know Lumiere pissed off Kona back in the day, but now I want to know what happened, all I can remember is that the dude was kind of pretentious and wanted to hit up Kona for a favor like crashing at his pad for a few nights, not sure if that exactly warrants a beat down, I feel there may be more to the story...?

thread-47566...pid1023527

Goddamn, in Hawaii it really must be a small world after all...

Quote: (02-17-2016 04:52 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (02-17-2016 06:32 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

Kona: There's nothing desirable about coat-tails when you're the victim of lies and falsely branded a rapist in your home down and that ruins your family rep. There's even talk of boycotts to the family business. Shits getting out of control.

Some little screwball paper in some small corner of the world wrote an article about you. You say that article hurts your feelings and reputation, so instead of sticking to your own forum, which has far less readers, you come here and spread the article around more????

I think the coat tails are exactly what you are after.

According to your various websites (which seem to be working fine?????) your book is an Amazon.com #1 Best Seller. Did anyone from your home town read the book? Do they read your forum, blog, or twitter?

If so, they've seen everything written in the article already.

And why spread only a blurry picture of the article around? It might as well have been Japanese porn there and you call it slander.

You knew full well half the people that saw it would jump right on your bandwagon and agree with you that a horrible injustice had been done to you, just like was done to Roosh. Then maybe those people would look at your website and forum, then maybe buy some books.

I bet you figured that paper wouldn't put the article online. You posted the picture the day before it was on their website.

If it actually was slander and libel, you would have just posted the link, just admit it.

Why not take a clearer picture of the article. Use the camera you use for your blog.

And just a heads up, they have you listed in the "Crime Desk" section, not the "Crimewatch" section. You misquoted the Sunday World, SLANDER!!

I support truth when promoting products, I hate when people try to backdoor their bullshit.

Aloha!

Dear God the savagery on this thread.

I understand where your negativity comes from, Kona.
I read that thread with you and JJ, and clearly this is very personal for you. I get it.
You actually seem more upset in this thread than me (and I've had my life turned upside down). It's strangely soothing for me. I feel balanced and positive in comparison. Thank you.
You can say what you want about JJ, but I've seen the man in action, and the guy gets results. His game is strong.

Quote: (02-19-2016 01:58 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

I understand where your negativity comes from, Kona.
I read that thread with you and JJ, and clearly this is very personal for you. I get it.
You actually seem more upset in this thread than me (and I've had my life turned upside down). It's strangely soothing for me. I feel balanced and positive in comparison. Thank you.
You can say what you want about JJ, but I've seen the man in action, and the guy gets results. His game is strong.

JJ aka Lumiere may be strong in the field, but all I saw him post here on RVF was bullshit ads about his Sex 3.0 program and fairly generic comments on everything else. So it doesn't seem likely.

You would think a well traveled guy who has met forum members would have a single rep from them or for his travel info or for helping newbies out in his most recent posts, but I don't see that.

For a guy selling a program and being guru to help guys get laid you would think he would have dropped some gold for the RVF crowd, but he didn't.

So in conclusion, Lumiere/JJ is a clown and a hack from his posts here on RVF through and through calling it as it is.

Edit: To be a bit frank if the picture I found of JJ/Lumiere after doing a bit of research is him. All the game in the world isn't going to help that poor sap if he can't dress for shit and looks as sloppy as he does.

JJ looks like a recovering heroin addict or an AIDS patient you'd see bumming cigarettes outside of a methadone clinic, I always found it odd that NN associated with him.

Quote: (02-19-2016 04:05 PM)scotian Wrote:  

JJ looks like a recovering heroin addict or an AIDS patient you'd see bumming cigarettes outside of a methadone clinic, I always found it odd that NN associated with him.

So I guess the image I saw was him. Not surprising.

Fuck, I love JJ Roberts.

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

I can understand the animosity towards Naughty Nomad. He did clone this forum and then allow banned RVF members to run wild there for years, to the point where it could be described an anti-Roosh forum. I'm surprised he did post here for support, but I don't hold grudges. I'm more than happy to aid those who made steps to fix their past mistakes.

Quote: (02-19-2016 01:58 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

You actually seem more upset in this thread than me (and I've had my life turned upside down). It's strangely soothing for me. I feel balanced and positive in comparison. Thank you.

Well you are welcome. And, I'm not upset at all. I know it's been hard for you having people read the things you distribute widely to the public. It had a devastating effect on you the first time it happened: thread-37086.html. I bet it never gets easier.

Since you are balanced and positive now, try adding honesty to your repertoire. Imagine if you could just sell your books and get people to your blog just by being straightforward. Then you will reach true enlightenment.

I'm also happy to see that your website is working again, and that you changed your signature back so we can all link to it. You had your Amazon up yesterday.

Quote: (02-19-2016 01:58 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  

You can say what you want about JJ, but I've seen the man in action, and the guy gets results. His game is strong.

You brought JJ aka Lumiere into this. Let's not talk bad about him anymore. He dug his own grave. (That's a quote from him recently on your forum!)

Let's just clear the air about him a bit.

This is the first time here that one of you guys are admitting JJ is Lumiere. I told you honesty feels good. Because you guys are #1 Sellers on Amazon.com (not 542,355 and 658,963 Like those libelous bastards say) tell us why you guys need to be so deceptive.

Why did JJ Roberts not just admit he was Lumiere, and why did you act like you never heard of Lumiere but JJ was your pal?

Here's the rebirth: thread-5605-...#pid247749

I know you can't speak for him, but when you recommended the folks on this forum read his book here: thread-11114...#pid176772, for example, why didn't you also add "Oh yeah it's Lumiere?" Why hide?

Is this some type of Amazon trick to increase sales?

Or how about when this guy (Who is he??) found your book on Amazon: thread-32963.html. He had never heard of you at all, and JJ Roberts was right there to show him the path. Let us know.

I'm happy again to hear that your up and running and hope you can put this all behind you. I didn't mean to be so harsh, and hope I didn't hurt your feelings. When I see someone being deceptive, who's been deceptive in the past, and associates with other deceptive people, I have to stand up.

Aloha!

Funny story, I went to rep Kona for this thread, but it turned out I already gave him a +1 for his beatdown on JJ in the Charlie Sheen lifestyle thread, but had forgotten all about it, now I got to read it all over again like it was brand new to me, but it was a few years old.

Aloha!

Quote: (02-19-2016 08:06 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Funny story, I went to rep Kona for this thread, but it turned out I already gave him a +1 for his beatdown on JJ in the Charlie Sheen lifestyle thread, but had forgotten all about it, now I got to read it all over again like it was brand new to me, but it was a few years old.

Aloha!

I know this feeling of reading old threads like that very well.

Don't fuck with Kona. He is a legit badass. His offline persona matches his online one.

Threads like these make me think I blew my warning level nut premature.

Quote: (02-19-2016 09:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Don't fuck with Kona. He is a legit badass. His offline persona matches his online one.

For the sake of everything...I hope yours does too..