I see an appeal coming. Even if he were acquitted, he would still be held, because he is facing additional murder charges in Boston. If he loses all appeals, look for a postconviction petition alleging ineffective assistance of counsel against both his trial attorneys and his appellate attorneys.

To add insult to injury, from what I understand the prison he will be housed in is only a stone's throw from Gillette Stadium

He's gotta be kicking his own ass

Aaron's wife and mother were in tears in the courtroom.
Their golden ticket is gone, they will have to work shit jobs now. He blew millions on his attorney, the patriots sued him to get back the signing bonus.

Merenguero,

Normally IAC petitions are almost never granted, but does he have a case here since his attorney admitted he was at the scene of the crime in the closing brief?

The jurors have said that helped them affirm that Hernandez was guilty. I wonder if that was strategic--to intentionally give Hernandez a shot at a new trial.

Quote: (04-16-2015 12:01 AM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

Merenguero,

Normally IAC petitions are almost never granted, but does he have a case here since his attorney admitted he was at the scene of the crime in the closing brief?

The jurors have said that helped them affirm that Hernandez was guilty. I wonder if that was strategic--to intentionally give Hernandez a shot at a new trial.

Good question. It's true that those Petitions are almost never granted and for obvious reasons. If it were very common that such Petitions were granted, more Defendants would file them and many attorneys would be hesitant to take felony cases, knowing that they would likely get post convicted should the Defendant be found guilty. I had a case a few years back in which I was pretty sure I was going to get post convicted, but it never happened. In order to answer your question regarding whether Hernandez's attorney was ineffective, I would have to review a lot of holdings of Massachusetts courts in order to see what their standards are for ineffective assistance of counsel.

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Life in prison without parole. Sounds like he got what he deserved. I'm surprised they didn't try to do a hail mary with the race card when they knew there was little chance in successful defense.

Let's see how hard this guy is doing real time with real homeboys who will jack him the fuck up if he steps out of line.

He's only 25 that's a lot of time to contemplate how badly someone squandered their lottery ticket in life.

Quote: (04-15-2015 05:53 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

I see an appeal coming. Even if he were acquitted, he would still be held, because he is facing additional murder charges in Boston. If he loses all appeals, look for a postconviction petition alleging ineffective assistance of counsel against both his trial attorneys and his appellate attorneys.

By law, a first degree murder conviction triggers an appeal.

He's got other charges of murder in Massachusetts? And he was allegedly involved in shooting someone in Florida?

His brain is wired wrong, for sure. What a fool.

Aaron Hernandez found not guilty of Boston double murder
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Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, who is serving a life sentence for the June 18, 2013 murder of semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd, has been found not guilty of murdering two men in Boston.

After 36 hours of deliberation, a Boston jury on Friday found Hernandez not guilty of the murders of 29-year-old Daniel de Abreu and 28-year-old Safiro Furtado, two men who were shot to death in a drive-by shooting outside the Boston nightclub Cure in the early morning hours of July 16, 2012. Hernandez was also found not guilty of five of six other charges, which included armed assault with intent to murder and assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. Five of those charges stem from Hernandez allegedly shooting in the direction of three other men who were with de Abreu and Furtado. One of those men, Aquilino Freire, was shot in the arm but survived. The last of those charges, witness intimidation, concerned the separate shooting of Alexander Bradley, a key witness who Hernandez was accused of shooting in the eye seven months after the Boston shootings. Hernandez openly wept in court upon hearing the verdicts of not guilty.

Hernandez, however, was convicted for unlawful possession of a firearm. Judge Jeffrey Locke sentenced Hernandez to four to five years in prison for that conviction, and—importantly—stipulated that the sentence will run consecutive to his other convictions. This means that Hernandez will not begin to serve his firearm sentence until his existing sentences expire. As a practical matter, Hernandez will only begin to serve the firearm conviction if he is able to successfully appeal his first murder conviction.

Friday’s verdict is a decisive victory for Hernandez’s legal team, led by Harvard Law School Professor Ronald Sullivan and prominent criminal defense attorney Jose Baez (who successfully represented Casey Anthony as well). The two attorneys took a case that many thought faced long odds and won.

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Looks like his NFL money helped him beat the case. Whether or not he did it, Hernandez is a scumbag and deserves to be behind bars.

Apparently the OJ Simpson jury was also assigned to this case.

That was for a seperate case than the one he was already found guilty for though. This case wasnt as clear cut as the other one to ny understanding. Hes still in jail for life.

   

The timing on this is bizarre. Just hours ago, he was acquitted of double murder. That case is gone for good. He may have had some chance, it is very questionable how much, of getting some post conviction relief and ultimately walking in the other case, and now he did this, after sitting in a cell for years. Did anyone ever do an evaluation to find out what was really wrong with this guy? Saying he was seriously fucked up in the head would be a huge understatement.

   

It was a "hung" jury.

"Here's $40 million. Just show up on Sunday and catch passes." Fuckface.

And Cuck Goodell is in his office right now trying to find a way to suspend Brady for 8 games over this.

Quote: (04-19-2017 05:58 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  

The timing on this is bizarre. Just hours ago, he was acquitted of double murder. That case is gone for good. He may have had some chance, it is very questionable how much, of getting some post conviction relief and ultimately walking in the other case, and now he did this, after sitting in a cell for years. Did anyone ever do an evaluation to find out what was really wrong with this guy? Saying he was seriously fucked up in the head would be a huge understatement.

Listening to Boston sports radio now. Supposedly, family members of both of the dead guys are also in that prison.

Combine that with Hernandez's garbage attitude. Yeah, he was suicided. "Prison security protocols" or no. It happens.

As far as Hernandez being fucked in the head goes: On top of being a fuck up, he smoked PCP.

Hernandez, the Cleveland shooter, hopefully the Boston marathon bomber can give us a scumbag suicide trifecta

I blame the Russians. He was about to reveal secrets.

I know his lawyers told him to hang in there but damn......

Bill Belichick summed it up simply when asked about Hernandez recently, a tragedy. It's easy to just say good riddance to a murderous thug and leave it at that, but there's something fascinating about athletes and people in the spotlight who lose it all; Hernandez's rise and fall interests me more than say, the traditional career arc of someone like Peyton Manning. After Hernandez popped up in the news last week, I started thinking about this guy again. Was he gonna have his own redemption ever? Well, we see how that turned out now.

Sports careers exist within such a compressed time frame, that they end up serving as a microcosm of life itself. And this is another example in a long line of ones showing how fast life comes at you, and how much it can be exponentially sped up when you've got money, fame, and power. The guy was drafted at 20, a multimillionaire at 22, a convicted murderer at 25, and died at 27. Meanwhile, I've managed to get a college degree and meandered through a few jobs from 20-25.

There's a good SI piece out there that goes into his family life, but the gist of it is that he was a kid who always looked outward for support and confidence. The guy's father died in a pretty traumatic way when he was 16, like whole family there as he died after surgery went awry traumatic. According to his brother, he started hanging around the wrong kids then. His criminal timeline matches up with this, as he was first involved in a barfight at 17.

From there, I can only imagine how he got more involved in the gangster culture. This is why this shit is so toxic to our society. It affects everyone from the rich to the poor. Once he got paid, him and his homies had to get some guns. Sure, taking selfies with your guns is pretty dope, but damn don't you gotta use them too? So a couple guys spill some drinks on big shot Hernandez, and alpha that he surely is, he's gotta take 'em out for the lack of respect. Then, since your naturally smoking a ton of PCP because why not (another reminder to not hang around the wrong crowd) and paranoid as hell all the time, you and your crew decide to take out the other guy who may snitch on you (see: Odin Lloyd).

And damn if that wasn't one of the dumbest murders ever committed. You not only kill the guy in an industrial park only a mile awhile, but also allow your own security footage to basically show your every move, from leaving the house with the gun to driving back? To give it some more perspective, Lloyd's body was discovered the very next day, Hernandez was a suspect the day after, and he was arrested only 9 days after the murder itself. I think he actually killed the guy too. It reminds me of the whole story behind the movie "Alpha Dog," where you got a bunch of rich kids playing gangster, who decide they need to kidnap this kid as a hostage. When it comes down to it, the main guy kills the kid because well, he's the alpha dog. If you really a G, well you gotta pull the trigger yourself.

As for why he suddenly committed suicide, there's probably two reasons. He was either "suicided," or just offed himself when reality finally hit him. I'd like to think it was the latter. Reports say Hernandez "broke down into tears" when he heard the news that he was acquitted of the drive-by double murder in Boston. Reports also say his motive for killing Lloyd may have been that Lloyd knew of the murder in Boston and could talk. At that very moment, Hernandez may have realized that had he just not executed Lloyd like a dumbass, he would have gotten away totally clean (at least jail-wise). Facing the judgement of his own folly, the guy committed one more selfish act in the spur of the moment and hung himself when he had a chance. And what are we left with in the end: a bunch of dead men, ruined families, a daughter left to live with this knowledge. No one learns anything of course. We can be sure humans will continue to do stupid shit like this for the remainder of human existence.

TLDR: Takeaways from all this? Don't smoke PCP kids

He was young, but I bet they still try to blame this on concussion brain damage. There's probably millions of dollars in insurance money at stake - money that doesn't pay out for a straight suicide.

Quote: (04-19-2017 11:02 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

He was young, but I bet they still try to blame this on concussion brain damage. There's probably millions of dollars in insurance money at stake - money that doesn't pay out for a straight suicide.

Finished listening to the dean of the MA School of Law on 98.5 FM SportsHub about two hours ago. He unequivocally said:

EVERY CRIMINAL CHARGE will be vacated AND Hernandez’s family will be entitled to BOTH his CONTRACT $$$$ AND his NFL PENSION.

Wow... Crime does pay.

And I call bullshit on the suicide. He was suicided.

I don't pretend to speak from experience (thankfully), but I think he would have crumbled in prison.

He was a great athlete but great athletes don't necessarily make comfortable prisoners, especially when a horde of other inmates would want to cut someone like him down.

Athletes depend on following the rules - train hard, play hard, act in conformity with a team based on procedure and each person doing their bit. Any advantage he had in physicality and discipline would have been offset by this, I believe. Most of his cell neighbors, by contrast, made their lives based on breaking the rules and committing all sorts of skulduggery, both legal and illegal, to achieve their aims.

Even your worst case of a selfish, primadonna pro sports player is still a massive cleanskin compared to an average inmate at an infamous correctional facility.

I think guys like Bernie Madoff and Rod Blagojevich would have an easier time in prison, even with their diminutive sizes. Fellow inmates would probably have a lot more in common with them than a guy like Aaron.

My good friend is a correction officer and he assures me that "getting suicided" is something reserved for TV shows and movies. It's very rare in real life since the evidence is either overwhelming or the perpetrator outright takes credit for the murder. This guy was locked down 23/7 facing life, he just snapped and decided to appeal his case in a higher court.