[Parzival]

To give a positive thing about the German girls, they are not easy to open. So just be a foreigner don't bring you the pussy. You also need social proof and they mostly don't fuck around big. They stick loyal the guy they know from social circle. They are stiff and cold but when you know them better they can be sweet and naughty. They are for sure no trophy wives but a good match when you want a woman that contribute to the relationship. Also they are not hyper feminist beside the dress not so well and equal work rights thing. They understand that men and women are different in certain aspects.
Even for the invaders in Germany, they have to rape the girls because they can't game them. There are a lot of negative things with German girls, for a good reason but at least they are not easy sluts and still prefer German men.

[Orson]

(12-01-2017 05:32 PM)CameraXL Wrote:  

Wasnt’t this supposed to be a thread on expertise about our beautiful german fräuleins?

Nobody claims that there‘re no criminal migrants in germany. Nobody claims that there is no rise in crime stats and crime committed by migrants.
http://dw.com/p/2b07g


But alternative facts are actually no facts but fiction and fantasy. Yet millions believe it. Because they feel it to be true. This is what populism and propaganda are all about. We germans are experts on it, we where the first people in the world to get fooled by a loud Scharlatan.

Its ridiculous when people, who actually live in foreign countries, or who‘ve never been to germany longer than on a vacation, start to tell us germans that there are hordes of bearded-sickos mass-raping women in every german town - or that we live in a failed state invaded by Untermenschen. Call it alternative facts.

Speaking about foreign countries: There are brave nations in the western world - who should maybe start to mind their own business when it comes to crime, murder and terror, instead of talking bullshit about the rest of the world. Nations who grow their „Gefährder“ all by themselve - with great pride - by allowing even the sickest weirdos to buy guns in a supermarket. Or by beeing one of the main reasons for migration, fighting oil-fueled crusades in the middle east for decades, destroying infrastructure and the homes of millions. Kentucky is far away, who cares anyway? Let god sort them out. Their blond „Führer“ obviously has nothing better to do, than playing golf or tweeting. Sad. Like dealing with german girls and their often strange behaviour when it comes to dating. Most of them tell you that they actually appreciate it when you approach - yet when you actually do, they often seem so surprised, that they act kind of rude. Which is why situational, indirect openers work wonders with Krauts.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen; the smaller the government, the bigger the citizen.

The latter - which President Reagan and Trump practiced - is opposed to German ways; the first is entirely congruent with German history and too much of her 19thC philosophies.

Thus, Germans think it sensible for government to do the impossible and read peoples private minds (eg, "allowing even the sickest weirdos to buy guns in a supermarket"). American's, by contrast, have learned from experience not to expect the impossible from government. German's resist facing the Truth.

The case of German Wings flight 9525 is an instructive case, involving a young German co-pilot who slammed his passenger jet into the French Alps, killing all 150 aboard:

Quote:

The crash was deliberately caused by the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, who had previously been treated for suicidal tendencies and declared "unfit to work" by a doctor. Lubitz kept this information from his employer and instead reported for duty. Shortly after reaching cruise altitude and while the captain was momentarily out of the cockpit, he locked the cockpit door and initiated a controlled descent that continued until the aircraft impacted a mountainside.

In response to the incident and the circumstances of Lubitz's involvement, aviation authorities in some countries implemented new regulations that require the presence of two authorized personnel in the cockpit at all times [which was already US practice because of the 9/11 Jihadist pilots]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

Pragmatism triumphs over idealism!

[Zoso]

(01-04-2018 03:51 PM)dukecro Wrote:  

^
You missed a notch but
she was 34 it is like 64 in man age,t yuk.

Not at all... She was a solid 7 despite her age. Moreover, it's a thing of taste.
Whatever, it hadn't a great final.

[TigerTim]

(01-04-2018 08:49 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:51 PM)dukecro Wrote:  

^
You missed a notch but
she was 34 it is like 64 in man age,t yuk.

Not at all... She was a solid 7 despite her age. Moreover, it's a thing of taste.
Whatever, it hadn't a great final.

You didnt get it, he didnt mean he was ugly or anything, It is about social Value, and wether or not a 34 yo woman is decent looking her better days are already gone, and She knows it.

[Zoso]

(01-04-2018 09:26 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 08:49 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:51 PM)dukecro Wrote:  

^
You missed a notch but
she was 34 it is like 64 in man age,t yuk.

Not at all... She was a solid 7 despite her age. Moreover, it's a thing of taste.
Whatever, it hadn't a great final.

You didnt get it, he didnt mean he was ugly or anything, It is about social Value, and wether or not a 34 yo woman is decent looking her better days are already gone, and She knows it.

Absolutely, I didn't say the opposite.

[AznGunSlinger]

East Asian men should stay away from Germany. The only interracial German women want are black men. I know an Asian guy on reddit who said Germany is bad

[Drix]

(01-04-2018 03:28 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

Anyway, I've never been in Germany so don't know absolutly about the game there.
But, fuck... hard to believe for me this thread.

As a peruvian who have met many gringas here, i can say that you can’t compare a girl who is in travel mood than another in her local country.

In Peru, Many gringas are very interested to date or have affairs with latin guys. In my opinion, a handsome latino will struggle with the peruanas, but he will be top option for gringas and bang tons of them.

Also, There is a big difference between having a nice conversation with a girl than banging her. I have never had a harsh rejection from a gringa here(except a couple of australian girls). The gringas who i approached were super polite, talkative and nice, this doesn mean that all of them are down for a hook up.

In my experience, german girls are not easy. Even if i have banged some german girls, i had to put a lot of effort in them and my success rate with them is much lower than with other gringas. I do direct daygame approaches to them and some of them are really clumsy to understand the situation.

Relate to their looks, i know they age super bad, but at 18 or 20, I see some cute tall ones with decent asses and nice boobs. In conclusion, if a german girl is not easy for me in my own country, i have no idea how much harder they can be in Germany.

[UKSwagga]

(01-06-2018 12:32 PM)Drix Wrote:  

In my experience, german girls are not easy. Even if i have banged some german girls, i had to put a lot of effort in them and my success rate with them is much lower than with other gringas. I do direct daygame approaches to them and some of them are really clumsy to understand the situation.

Relate to their looks, i know they age super bad, but at 18 or 20, I see some cute tall ones with decent asses and nice boobs. In conclusion, if a german girl is not easy for me in my own country, i have no idea how much harder they can be in Germany.

I don't know... I know quite a few German girls and the one thing they share in common is physical features, not necessarily the best to be honest. But I've never found them difficult to game if you manage to break into conversation with them. I feel like they're normally pretty well up for a chat.

[droughtmeat]

Yes, they age badly. Basically, at 26 or 27 they are done in terms of looks.
When they are abroad theyre definitely more promiscuous.

But they boring personalities and like most german people they plan their lives based on where they want to be at 70 or 80 instead of enjoying what they have right now

[Zoso]

I rest my case with you guys...

[Zoso]

(01-06-2018 12:32 PM)Drix Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:28 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

Anyway, I've never been in Germany so don't know absolutly about the game there.
But, fuck... hard to believe for me this thread.

As a peruvian who have met many gringas here, i can say that you can’t compare a girl who is in travel mood than another in her local country.

In Peru, Many gringas are very interested to date or have affairs with latin guys. In my opinion, a handsome latino will struggle with the peruanas, but he will be top option for gringas and bang tons of them.

Also, There is a big difference between having a nice conversation with a girl than banging her. I have never had a harsh rejection from a gringa here(except a couple of australian girls). The gringas who i approached were super polite, talkative and nice, this doesn mean that all of them are down for a hook up.

In my experience, german girls are not easy. Even if i have banged some german girls, i had to put a lot of effort in them and my success rate with them is much lower than with other gringas. I do direct daygame approaches to them and some of them are really clumsy to understand the situation.

Relate to their looks, i know they age super bad, but at 18 or 20, I see some cute tall ones with decent asses and nice boobs. In conclusion, if a german girl is not easy for me in my own country, i have no idea how much harder they can be in Germany.

You are right in some points but let me disagree in another ones.
It seems that indirect game is the rule with German girls and approaching just doesnt work well.

[spaceman]

A couple of thoughts, kirdiesel and I have talked and I agree with his perspective. I am brown american dude and do fine in Germany, i have lived here for awhile so my interest level in German girls vs EE girls goes up and down.

-Indirect is best, starting in English gets you instant social proof
-German girls are very social circle based, as others have said, but you can pull that sexy foreigner move to break them out of their cycles
-German guys are , for the most part, beta AF, no game

In the end, Germans are quite easy and have no problem with ONS or 2nd date lays.

[kirdiesel]

I agree with Azn regarding Asian men. I have not talked to one girl that found Asian men interesting. Asian guys are rare here and you'll have to prove yourself even more than us black guys will have to.

German women do not seem to age well. Matter of opinion of course but by 35/40 they are completely done. I have not met a German woman over 40 that i found pretty attractive. Strange because it's not even really sunny here most of the time and I don't think tons of girls go tanning.

Social circle is always the best approach but as an immigrant it's very difficult to break in. So that just leaves you to approach a normal way, Indirect and in solid English being the best.

When German girls do go interracial it's the Turkish and Black guys who are first in line. I would say well educated Turks come first but we're splitting hairs here.

Maybe it's cologne but I know many German guys who are not scared to approach and pull weekly from the clubs.

Once again ONS and 2nd date lay is 100% possible and I've done it myself within 4 hours of meeting a girl at my best game.

German girls outside of Germany are in a different mindset and should not be written off. You could be leaving lays on the table and young/early 20s girls can be extremely hot.

In summary, gaming Germans is a low ROI game (if you aren't white) but if you are decent looking with the equivalent level of game it is DOABLE.

Easy is a word I would never dare to use to describe my experience here.

[TigerTim]

(01-07-2018 06:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

I agree with Azn regarding Asian men. I have not talked to one girl that found Asian men interesting. Asian guys are rare here and you'll have to prove yourself even more than us black guys will have to.

German women do not seem to age well. Matter of opinion of course but by 35/40 they are completely done. I have not met a German woman over 40 that i found pretty attractive. Strange because it's not even really sunny here most of the time and I don't think tons of girls go tanning.

Social circle is always the best approach but as an immigrant it's very difficult to break in. So that just leaves you to approach a normal way, Indirect and in solid English being the best.

When German girls do go interracial it's the Turkish and Black guys who are first in line. I would say well educated Turks come first but we're splitting hairs here.

Maybe it's cologne but I know many German guys who are not scared to approach and pull weekly from the clubs.

Once again ONS and 2nd date lay is 100% possible and I've done it myself within 4 hours of meeting a girl at my best game.

German girls outside of Germany are in a different mindset and should not be written off. You could be leaving lays on the table and young/early 20s girls can be extremely hot.

In summary, gaming Germans is a low ROI game (if you aren't white) but if you are decent looking with the equivalent level of game it is DOABLE.

Easy is a word I would never dare to use to describe my experience here.

Would you say in the mind of a German girl dating a italian or portuguese guy is dating interracial? I live in North Germany and for sure those guys stand out almost as much as some Arabs or Turks. If so I think German girls would rather go for Italian, Greek or Portuguese (to give some nationalities) than for a Turk. Not so sure about blacks as I hardly hang out with black or any type of dark skinned people.

[kirdiesel]

Once again I think you are splitting hairs. I won't go directly into nationalities but the closer you look to the in-demand German phenotype the easier you will have it with their women.

Outside of that phenotype black guys are first in line.

[Thriver]

(01-04-2018 04:55 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

To give a positive thing about the German girls, they are not easy to open. So just be a foreigner don't bring you the pussy. You also need social proof and they mostly don't fuck around big. They stick loyal the guy they know from social circle. They are stiff and cold but when you know them better they can be sweet and naughty. They are for sure no trophy wives but a good match when you want a woman that contribute to the relationship. Also they are not hyper feminist beside the dress not so well and equal work rights thing. They understand that men and women are different in certain aspects.
Even for the invaders in Germany, they have to rape the girls because they can't game them. There are a lot of negative things with German girls, for a good reason but at least they are not easy sluts and still prefer German men.

Is it so?

Than why are ONS common in Germany?

I mean, german girls are not as slutty as english girls, but they still are quiet slutty.

I remember 3 German girls that were staying in the same place I was in Rome 3 years ago.

They stayed for 6 days and each of them banged 2 foreign guys they did not know .

Also I have seen many interracial couples in Hamburg and Berlin.

Do not forget that just 2 years after WW2, 15,000 mixed race children were born between german women and afro american soldiers.

Also there are 1.2 million black germans and many of them descend from sexual relationships between black american soldiers in german bases in Germany and German girls

[TigerTim]

(01-08-2018 04:41 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:55 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

To give a positive thing about the German girls, they are not easy to open. So just be a foreigner don't bring you the pussy. You also need social proof and they mostly don't fuck around big. They stick loyal the guy they know from social circle. They are stiff and cold but when you know them better they can be sweet and naughty. They are for sure no trophy wives but a good match when you want a woman that contribute to the relationship. Also they are not hyper feminist beside the dress not so well and equal work rights thing. They understand that men and women are different in certain aspects.
Even for the invaders in Germany, they have to rape the girls because they can't game them. There are a lot of negative things with German girls, for a good reason but at least they are not easy sluts and still prefer German men.

Is it so?

Than why are ONS common in Germany?

I mean, german girls are not as slutty as english girls, but they still are quiet slutty.

I remember 3 German girls that were staying in the same place I was in Rome 3 years ago.

They stayed for 6 days and each of them banged 2 foreign guys they did not know .

Also I have seen many interracial couples in Hamburg and Berlin.

Do not forget that just 2 years after WW2, 15,000 mixed race children were born between german women and afro american soldiers.

Also there are 1.2 million black germans and many of them descend from sexual relationships between black american soldiers in german bases in Germany and German girls

German girls are completely different abroad than in Germany. And nobody says German girls will be impossible in Germany, but I guess most people set the Anglosphere as the bar of comparison, because the Majority of the Forum hails from the US, UK, Australia or Canada, and compared to those women the GErman ones are less chatty, more rigid, logical and way harder to game. In germany there is no real dating culture compared to North America, Australia or the UK. Germans are far more serious people on average and they need more time to relax and open up.

[Parzival]

You can have of course ONS there is no date rule or no slut shame so far. I did pull ONS as well. Just in other countries its a way more easy. When you break the shell, they can be quite slutty. Its just that only the lower ones push themselves and men, especially foreigners. When german girls young you can get them by talk this Muslim nonsense about eternal love and corny stuff, and sooner then later you make her convert to Islam and wear a Burka or send her to prostitution. Muslim game recognized. Some girls are just whores, but none of them will open confess.
There are girls that take a different guy home every weekend.

[wolfer]

(01-08-2018 04:41 PM)Thriver Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:55 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

To give a positive thing about the German girls, they are not easy to open. So just be a foreigner don't bring you the pussy. You also need social proof and they mostly don't fuck around big. They stick loyal the guy they know from social circle. They are stiff and cold but when you know them better they can be sweet and naughty. They are for sure no trophy wives but a good match when you want a woman that contribute to the relationship. Also they are not hyper feminist beside the dress not so well and equal work rights thing. They understand that men and women are different in certain aspects.
Even for the invaders in Germany, they have to rape the girls because they can't game them. There are a lot of negative things with German girls, for a good reason but at least they are not easy sluts and still prefer German men.

Is it so?

Than why are ONS common in Germany?

I mean, german girls are not as slutty as english girls, but they still are quiet slutty.

I remember 3 German girls that were staying in the same place I was in Rome 3 years ago.

They stayed for 6 days and each of them banged 2 foreign guys they did not know .

Also I have seen many interracial couples in Hamburg and Berlin.

Do not forget that just 2 years after WW2, 15,000 mixed race children were born between german women and afro american soldiers.

Also there are 1.2 million black germans and many of them descend from sexual relationships between black american soldiers in german bases in Germany and German girls

You dont know what are you talking about. We have around 1-2 million african people from ghana, togo, nigeria, cameron and so on. yes "all of them are children of american black soldier".
All the german guys including me are telling you guys, that german girls in germany are not worth the effort.

[Naughty_Boy]

Yes! Every native or foreigner that has been longer in Germany can confirm it. German girls may look slightly better than Anglo on average but gaming is twice as hard when you don't fit into their "sceme" (for instance if they prefer blacks and you are white).

- Less slutiness
- More Logical in terms of if you are potential LTR material

I even had more success in London than in Hamburg due to the brits drinking culture + Slutiness

If you go from Germany to Poland your results will double, to Ukraine maybe triple. Whilst in Germany a 6.5 will flake me in Poland she will run after me

The only exception is when you are really really good looking, tall, look like her prefered type and have a decent "stable" job

[Rossi]

I don't know if it's my luck with several German girls or this is their overall mentality but all the German girls I banged are either dating with black guys or have dated with black guys for sure. I have two fuck-buddies from Germany right now, one from Stuttgart and other one from Munich, they both have black boyfriends.

[TigerTim]

(01-17-2018 08:00 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

I don't know if it's my luck with several German girls or this is their overall mentality but all the German girls I banged are either dating with black guys or have dated with black guys for sure. I have two fuck-buddies from Germany right now, one from Stuttgart and other one from Munich, they both have black boyfriends.

You are experiencing the Typical big city Mentality, and it is different North vs South vs West vs East of the country. I live in a middle-small sized city in the North and although you see some girls dating black guys over here the majority of them stick with German looking guys, and as second option other European Nationalities or even Turks and Latin Americans before they would go to Blacks. My experience is that a lower % of german girls are into Blacks, but those who are into Blacks seem to be more straight forward about their preference than the larger % of German girls who might go for other group of Guys.

[Elster]

Speaking of culture gaps, I think you guys are a bit too caught up in the height thing with ze german frauen.
I've seen latin-americans slaying it here and there, and compared to you anglo-germanic guys they are on the shorter more androgynous side.
Yeah,as a long term partner it is more likely that they will opt for the traditional tall ,"stable" (as in job+mortgage contracting capacity) ger-man of their own -ahem-background(hey,wait a sec,I'm getting a paradox here) but as for flings like many (younger?) posters here are looking for, it doesn't matter that much. Get out there and try!If you fail,then you learn something!

Its true,sluttiness a l'anglaise is hard to find in the continent. But, then again, said sluttiness is the source of many "abandon anglosphere!" laments that are in no short supply around the tides of the world wide web in the current days.

[JWLZG]

(01-07-2018 06:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

I agree with Azn regarding Asian men. I have not talked to one girl that found Asian men interesting. Asian guys are rare here and you'll have to prove yourself even more than us black guys will have to.

German women do not seem to age well. Matter of opinion of course but by 35/40 they are completely done. I have not met a German woman over 40 that i found pretty attractive. Strange because it's not even really sunny here most of the time and I don't think tons of girls go tanning.

Social circle is always the best approach but as an immigrant it's very difficult to break in. So that just leaves you to approach a normal way, Indirect and in solid English being the best.

When German girls do go interracial it's the Turkish and Black guys who are first in line. I would say well educated Turks come first but we're splitting hairs here.

Maybe it's cologne but I know many German guys who are not scared to approach and pull weekly from the clubs.

Once again ONS and 2nd date lay is 100% possible and I've done it myself within 4 hours of meeting a girl at my best game.

German girls outside of Germany are in a different mindset and should not be written off. You could be leaving lays on the table and young/early 20s girls can be extremely hot.

In summary, gaming Germans is a low ROI game (if you aren't white) but if you are decent looking with the equivalent level of game it is DOABLE.

Easy is a word I would never dare to use to describe my experience here.

You're wholeheartedly agreeing with an obvious troll?!

[kirdiesel]

I am agreeing with an observation that I read and gave my input on it.

Troll or no troll.