[rudebwoy]

(03-24-2012 04:06 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(03-23-2012 10:28 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(03-22-2012 11:11 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(02-14-2012 05:54 PM)Feo Wrote:  

Bro...why is this thread even here?? If you are having trouble finding a non-black girl to date then you have trouble with your game...not your race..or your city. This is coming from a black guy who has been with all kinds of girls in all kinds of places. A lot of you guys on this forum are WAY to focused on race, and because of that your race becomes an issue.

I come on this forum a couple times a month and freaking every fucking time there is some guy with a post asking where black guys should go to find easy white sluts or what the best city is for black guys..or some shit along that line. Seriously man?

Sorry for the rant...but it's fucking annoying. Go fuck some white bitches or whatever your target race is..get tired of them and get over that shit.

I couldn't agree with you more Feo. I think A FEW DUDES (not all) on this forum get hung up to much on the color of skin. Nowadays, this shouldn't really matter at all. I come from a hispanic mother and an American dad. I am okay with dudes saying like I am a brother (cause thats a cultural inside thing), but when you start saying shit like where should black dudes go to meet white chicks, and how do black dudes do in South America, or some other city, etc., the comments and threads become generalized, and hit on the skin color and sometimes the race thing too much. We are all the same, color of skin does not mean anything to me. You either have game, style, and CLASS or you do not regardless of color of skin.

DUDE YOU ARE NOT BLACK, so you would never understand this thread and why the question was asked. Walk a day in my shoes and then we can talk and you can add relative info to this thread.

AmericaninEurope is talking from experience, not what he thinks but what he knows.

Why would you get upset by this thread?
People need to understand there are places in the world where a black guy is taking a risk by visiting. Places where the local police will look the other way if you are in trouble.
A White guy can travel to any country and be pretty safe, no one is going to trouble him b/c of the colour of his skin. (eg Naughty Nomad raves about African pussy - fcuk dude has even been to Haiti).

I mean look at the BS in Florida with the young black kid getting shot for nothing!

Rant Over!!

Yo Rudeboy, calm down... I was in no way stating that i am upset by this thread.
I was merely making a point that although stereotypes exist for people of different races, colors, social classes, i think it is whacked and dumb. Hence, thats why my final point stated that the color of a persons skin does not mean anything to me, and I wish the women and men in this country change change their perception and we can all be equal like in Brazil (where lights, dark, and mixed are all perceived more equally and the racial stereotypes don't have as much affect.) I personally have dated a few black chicks (as well as all other races- i prefer latin girls looks the most), and I have several friends that are black. They absolutely kill in it in LA cause they are high class, have good style, well mannered, and with some good or great game.
And NO, I don't know how it is for you when you experience stereotypes and prejudices because in am not Black of course. I am sure it is much more challenging for you to game a lot of white colored girls (although believe me, it is no Cake Walk for me either). All I am saying is that I just hope this perception changes. I think we have come a long way in the last 10 years or more though, but we still have a LONG WAY TO GO...

No problem dude, but I will also say the Brazil thing is a fallacy!
They are not all equal, there is a upper class which is mostly white (European) and a lower class which is mostly black (African).

[Golden Boy]

(03-24-2012 05:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(03-24-2012 04:06 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(03-23-2012 10:28 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(03-22-2012 11:11 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(02-14-2012 05:54 PM)Feo Wrote:  

Bro...why is this thread even here?? If you are having trouble finding a non-black girl to date then you have trouble with your game...not your race..or your city. This is coming from a black guy who has been with all kinds of girls in all kinds of places. A lot of you guys on this forum are WAY to focused on race, and because of that your race becomes an issue.

I come on this forum a couple times a month and freaking every fucking time there is some guy with a post asking where black guys should go to find easy white sluts or what the best city is for black guys..or some shit along that line. Seriously man?

Sorry for the rant...but it's fucking annoying. Go fuck some white bitches or whatever your target race is..get tired of them and get over that shit.

I couldn't agree with you more Feo. I think A FEW DUDES (not all) on this forum get hung up to much on the color of skin. Nowadays, this shouldn't really matter at all. I come from a hispanic mother and an American dad. I am okay with dudes saying like I am a brother (cause thats a cultural inside thing), but when you start saying shit like where should black dudes go to meet white chicks, and how do black dudes do in South America, or some other city, etc., the comments and threads become generalized, and hit on the skin color and sometimes the race thing too much. We are all the same, color of skin does not mean anything to me. You either have game, style, and CLASS or you do not regardless of color of skin.

DUDE YOU ARE NOT BLACK, so you would never understand this thread and why the question was asked. Walk a day in my shoes and then we can talk and you can add relative info to this thread.

AmericaninEurope is talking from experience, not what he thinks but what he knows.

Why would you get upset by this thread?
People need to understand there are places in the world where a black guy is taking a risk by visiting. Places where the local police will look the other way if you are in trouble.
A White guy can travel to any country and be pretty safe, no one is going to trouble him b/c of the colour of his skin. (eg Naughty Nomad raves about African pussy - fcuk dude has even been to Haiti).

I mean look at the BS in Florida with the young black kid getting shot for nothing!

Rant Over!!

Yo Rudeboy, calm down... I was in no way stating that i am upset by this thread.
I was merely making a point that although stereotypes exist for people of different races, colors, social classes, i think it is whacked and dumb. Hence, thats why my final point stated that the color of a persons skin does not mean anything to me, and I wish the women and men in this country change change their perception and we can all be equal like in Brazil (where lights, dark, and mixed are all perceived more equally and the racial stereotypes don't have as much affect.) I personally have dated a few black chicks (as well as all other races- i prefer latin girls looks the most), and I have several friends that are black. They absolutely kill in it in LA cause they are high class, have good style, well mannered, and with some good or great game.
And NO, I don't know how it is for you when you experience stereotypes and prejudices because in am not Black of course. I am sure it is much more challenging for you to game a lot of white colored girls (although believe me, it is no Cake Walk for me either). All I am saying is that I just hope this perception changes. I think we have come a long way in the last 10 years or more though, but we still have a LONG WAY TO GO...

No problem dude, but I will also say the Brazil thing is a fallacy!
They are not all equal, there is a upper class which is mostly white (European) and a lower class which is mostly black (African).

Agreed, I shouldn't have stated that Brazil is a perfect example of this. I think there is no perfect country yet with the perfect balance. Stereotypes, racism, and prejudices exists all over the world. Just one example is Sunni and Shia muslims hate of each other, and this is killing people over there. I have been to Brazil 6 times for long periods, speak portuguese, and have friends there. Although it is not perfect, there is much more acceptance, equality, and less skin color judging and stereotyping than the USA and many other countries.

[jariel]

Personally these kinds of threads make me "poner los ojos en blanco."

At the end of the day, if a woman has been so throughly programmed to the point where she will deny herself the oppurtunity of a lifetime of love and happiness from a man just because of that man's race, skin tone, or whatever, then she is the one with the problems.

Unfortunately, this society is a hater/scrutinizer of all "other" things, so people are programmed to worship and desire one thing, and then you have the "others" who don't fit in and they are angry, frustrated, and shocked because they are not desired by those who have been programmed to believe they are not desirable.

Black men, irregardless of culture, need to recognize they are often the prize, and imagine, when you can combine the stereotypical white man's socioeconomics and lifestyle with the stereotypical black man's sexual voracity, you become a dream man for most women.

That's from a real relationship standpoint.

If we're just talking about sex, well shit, these women grow up fantasizing about you dominating them while making love to them in bed.

Read Nancy Friday's books or go on the amateur porn sites and watch how many of them masturbate with brown/black baseball sized dildos or type BBC into any search engine.

Please get out of the mentality that there is something wrong with YOU or YOU have to do something to be accepted by someone else.

No one with that kind of mentality can call themselves a player or can profess to understand what game really is.

[Kish]

Good shit jariel.

Sure black men have a lot of negative stereotypes but i think the positive ones out weigh the negative. Black men are stereotyped as athletic, hypermasculine, Sexually aggressive, Sexually potent, good dancers etc etc. So from the jump you know a lot of girls fantasize about brothers.

I know this sounds arrogant but I'd laugh in a girls face if she told me she would NEVER fuck a black guy. That would be like a girl saying she would never fuck an athlete, singer or bad boy. Even if she was telling the truth...there's sooo many other girls that would. LOL!

[Gorton's Fisherman]

(03-24-2012 07:21 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Good shit jariel.

Sure black men have a lot of negative stereotypes but i think the positive ones out weigh the negative. Black men are stereotyped as athletic, hypermasculine, Sexually aggressive, Sexually potent, good dancers etc etc. So from the jump you know a lot of girls fantasize about brothers.

I know this sounds arrogant but I'd laugh in a girls face if she told me she would NEVER fuck a black guy. That would be like a girl saying she would never fuck an athlete, singer or bad boy. Even if she was telling the truth...there's sooo many other girls that would. LOL!

I think this would apply...if this was the 1990s (which is one of the reasons why I say the 90s were more racially progressive than the 2000s-present). The masculine black male athlete who was physically fit, knew how to dance, and had a Devil May Care confidence has been overshadowed by the ebonics speaking, dope boy dressing, Lil Wayne/Waka Floka wannabe, borderline retarded image. And we all know that those images only attract hoodrats and uber-whores of other races. Because I'm not interesting in having to "spit game" on some white, Latin, or Asian chick who's only interested in some rap video sex fantasy. That insults my intelligence on many levels.

Add to this, how does BET, current day rap, and wannabe drama queen hood athletes like Ocho Cinco and Allen Iverson help the image of blacks who don't go by the stereotypes. And I'm not talking about the betafied Urkel and Carlton blacks. I'm talking about black males who fit the mold of a prep, punk, rocker, surfer, or MMA jock? Because let me tell you that in America, unless you live out in the Western US, you will be put into the negative stereotypical image in the eyes of most (as in 80-95 percent) of all non-blacks, regardless of how non-stereotypical your image is.

Maybe the black male athlete who has (non-ghetto) style is all that's seen in places like Canada, Australia, Japan, France, and the UK. But America plays by a different (and more cronyist) set of rules.

[Swagger]

Wait, can i start a thread "The best cities for a 5'6'' Indian male" or would I be labelled as an Indian race troll? lolz
On a serious note, overall I believe its slightly harder for minorities if you fit the profile of the stereotype. So If you don't dress or look the part then race would not matter in my opinion.

[Text_Winner]

I took the percentage of interracial marriages among newlyweds from the pew research and divided it by percentage of blacks(i.e. opportunities) in the state, see results below:

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/1...onal-rates

1. Maine (Portland, Me)
2. South Dakota (Sioux Falls, SD)
3. West Virginia (Morgantown, WV)
4. Iowa (Des Moines, IA)
....
50. Alaska (Anchorage, AK)

You're Welcome

[rudebwoy]

(03-24-2012 08:36 PM)Gortons Fisherman Wrote:  

(03-24-2012 07:21 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Good shit jariel.

Sure black men have a lot of negative stereotypes but i think the positive ones out weigh the negative. Black men are stereotyped as athletic, hypermasculine, Sexually aggressive, Sexually potent, good dancers etc etc. So from the jump you know a lot of girls fantasize about brothers.

I know this sounds arrogant but I'd laugh in a girls face if she told me she would NEVER fuck a black guy. That would be like a girl saying she would never fuck an athlete, singer or bad boy. Even if she was telling the truth...there's sooo many other girls that would. LOL!

I think this would apply...if this was the 1990s (which is one of the reasons why I say the 90s were more racially progressive than the 2000s-present). The masculine black male athlete who was physically fit, knew how to dance, and had a Devil May Care confidence has been overshadowed by the ebonics speaking, dope boy dressing, Lil Wayne/Waka Floka wannabe, borderline retarded image. And we all know that those images only attract hoodrats and uber-whores of other races. Because I'm not interesting in having to "spit game" on some white, Latin, or Asian chick who's only interested in some rap video sex fantasy. That insults my intelligence on many levels.

Add to this, how does BET, current day rap, and wannabe drama queen hood athletes like Ocho Cinco and Allen Iverson help the image of blacks who don't go by the stereotypes. And I'm not talking about the betafied Urkel and Carlton blacks. I'm talking about black males who fit the mold of a prep, punk, rocker, surfer, or MMA jock? Because let me tell you that in America, unless you live out in the Western US, you will be put into the negative stereotypical image in the eyes of most (as in 80-95 percent) of all non-blacks, regardless of how non-stereotypical your image is.

Maybe the black male athlete who has (non-ghetto) style is all that's seen in places like Canada, Australia, Japan, France, and the UK. But America plays by a different (and more cronyist) set of rules.

I agree wholeheartdly with what you have written, 80's and 90's was a great socially for a black man. This was the period I saw black men dating the best looking girls EVER, then overnight things changed.

BET has made things alot worse, the negative black man images are now broadcasted to wider audience. Now if you look back at shows like the Fresh Prince and The Cosby show it casted blacks in a different position that alot of people were not use to seeing.

People, I don't have a problem with who I am, I have a problem when people say we can't discuss these types of issues.
I agree there are a bit too many of these posts, but I also read the recent post from someone asking how a white guy will do in China.
It is nice to get a different persepective and I notice there are no negative remarks on that post.

[Kish]

It doesn't matter what city you live in. Women are hard wired to be attracted to aggressive dominant males. Keep your behaviors masculine and you'll KILL anywhere. Real talk.

[jariel]

(03-25-2012 11:15 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

BET has made things alot worse, the negative black man images are now broadcasted to wider audience.

Well you have to understand the game. BET is owned by Viacom. Black people don't own or control anything in American society.

Everything that's put out there about Blacks is done so with the authorization of the Whites who run and own the corporations.

What else can one expect when their people lack control over the images and messages that are put out there about them when they don't run or own the mediums that are used to filter those damaging images and messages to the public?

[worldwidetraveler]

(03-26-2012 04:30 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Well you have to understand the game. BET is owned by Viacom. Black people don't own or control anything in American society.

Everything that's put out there about Blacks is done so with the authorization of the Whites who run and own the corporations.

What else can one expect when their people lack control over the images and messages that are put out there about them when they don't run or own the mediums that are used to filter those damaging images and messages to the public?

[Timoteo]

(03-25-2012 11:45 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

It doesn't matter what city you live in. Women are hard wired to be attracted to aggressive dominant males. Keep your behaviors masculine and you'll KILL anywhere. Real talk.

The flip of this is that aggression from a black guy can be perceived differently than from others.

[Excelsior]

(03-26-2012 04:53 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 04:30 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Well you have to understand the game. BET is owned by Viacom. Black people don't own or control anything in American society.

Everything that's put out there about Blacks is done so with the authorization of the Whites who run and own the corporations.

What else can one expect when their people lack control over the images and messages that are put out there about them when they don't run or own the mediums that are used to filter those damaging images and messages to the public?

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

[jariel]

(03-26-2012 06:58 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

Right, which means she doesn't control it, so I'm not sure what point WWT was trying to make.

[Excelsior]

(03-26-2012 05:23 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 11:45 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

It doesn't matter what city you live in. Women are hard wired to be attracted to aggressive dominant males. Keep your behaviors masculine and you'll KILL anywhere. Real talk.

The flip of this is that aggression from a black guy can be perceived differently than from others.

+100000000000

It is impossible to overstate this fact right here. There are places where being sexually aggressive can really hurt you as a black dude. Girls will simply run-they're scared shitless of you without you doing anything, so you might as well just be an axe murderer as far as they are concerned when you start channeling aggression/dominance. They will clam up rapidly.

My campus is like this. I tried the aggressive/caveman approach as a freshman/sophomore, and girls turned tail very quickly. The proper response is to up your social circle/comfort and rapport building game.

There are some environments where I would not have this problem at all, which is why it is good to talk openly about where they are and how they all respond to certain kinds of people (in this case, black men).
If one were to come to my campus and stick to the typical "we're all the same, just be dominant/aggressive/have game, you'll be fine!" line of thinking, he'd fall flat on his face and be quite miserable by the end of his second year.
Like I said, it is adapt or die.

[Timoteo]

(03-26-2012 08:57 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 06:58 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

Right, which means she doesn't control it, so I'm not sure what point WWT was trying to make.

Oprah's content may not portray blacks collectively in a negative light, but it's definitely anti-male!

[worldwidetraveler]

(03-26-2012 08:57 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 06:58 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

Right, which means she doesn't control it, so I'm not sure what point WWT was trying to make.

How do you know what she controls and what she doesn't.

[worldwidetraveler]

(03-26-2012 09:37 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 08:57 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 06:58 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

Right, which means she doesn't control it, so I'm not sure what point WWT was trying to make.

Oprah's content may not portray blacks collectively in a negative light, but it's definitely anti-male!

Oprah's demographics are women so of course it would be anti-male. Hell, I would say a good deal of ads,being run on all networks, are anti-male.

[jariel]

How does one control a business that they only own 50% of and that 50% is not the majority stake of it?

Discovery put up the money for OWN.

You don't put up the money for a venture and not CONTROL the product, unless you're a silent partner, which clearly Discovery is not.

Your attempt to make a joke failed miserably.

Magic Johnson, P.Diddy, they're all going into the TV network business with Comcast, and they're having to do it the way Oprah did, which is let someone else put the money up and they get to be figureheads, but someone else will actually control the programming, so my point stands.

[Timoteo]

(03-26-2012 09:47 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 09:37 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 08:57 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-26-2012 06:58 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

In all fairness, Oprah's network is only half owned by Oprah. It belongs as much to Discovery Communications as it does to her.

Right, which means she doesn't control it, so I'm not sure what point WWT was trying to make.

Oprah's content may not portray blacks collectively in a negative light, but it's definitely anti-male!

Oprah's demographics are women so of course it would be anti-male. Hell, I would say a good deal of ads,being run on all networks, are anti-male.

Her demographic is not just women, but WHITE women.

[rudebwoy]

(03-26-2012 04:30 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 11:15 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

BET has made things alot worse, the negative black man images are now broadcasted to wider audience.

Well you have to understand the game. BET is owned by Viacom. Black people don't own or control anything in American society.

Everything that's put out there about Blacks is done so with the authorization of the Whites who run and own the corporations.

What else can one expect when their people lack control over the images and messages that are put out there about them when they don't run or own the mediums that are used to filter those damaging images and messages to the public?

Jariel I respect your views.

I am well aware that BET was bought from Viacomm and that is the point I stopped watching it, they dropped Tavis Smiley and any decent talk shows they had. Also when asked will former owner Robert Johnson be joining the Viacomm Board of Directors, the reply was there was no room at the board table.

[worldwidetraveler]

(03-26-2012 10:33 PM)jariel Wrote:  

How does one control a business that they only own 50% of and that 50% is not the majority stake of it?

Discovery put up the money for OWN.

You don't put up the money for a venture and not CONTROL the product, unless you're a silent partner, which clearly Discovery is not.

Your attempt to make a joke failed miserably.

Magic Johnson, P.Diddy, they're all going into the TV network business with Comcast, and they're having to do it the way Oprah did, which is let someone else put the money up and they get to be figureheads, but someone else will actually control the programming, so my point stands.

So Oprah has no control at all? You know this how?

Control depends not only on shares but also can be influenced by contract. Did Oprah just say I will sell my name and let Discovery control it?

Highly doubtful she wouldn't have any control over HER product.

You're point failed miserably since you don't have a clue as to how Oprah's network is being run. Hell, you may be right but from everything you said you're still grasping at straws. I am always interested in learning more if you have any proof besides conjecture.

http://www.adweek.com/news/television/op...own-133373

[rudebwoy]

worldwidetraveler - Do some research before you assume Oprah owns her own station. There are many articles about who owns/runs the media you watch.

[worldwidetraveler]

(03-26-2012 10:47 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

worldwidetraveler - Do some research before you assume Oprah owns her own station. There are many articles about who owns/runs the media you watch.

Is it not a joint venture between Oprah and Discovery? Got a link?

[jariel]

(03-26-2012 10:38 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

So Oprah has no control at all? You know this how?

Control depends not only on shares but also can be influenced by contract. Did Oprah just say I will sell my name and let Discovery control it?

Highly doubtful she wouldn't have any control over HER product.

You're point failed miserably since you don't have a clue as to how Oprah's network is being run. Hell, you may be right but from everything you said you're still grasping at straws. I am always interested in learning more if you have any proof besides conjecture.

http://www.adweek.com/news/television/op...own-133373

Well the relationship with Discovery has gone south because the network has failed miserably. The network was projected to be in the red the first two years, but I'm sure they didn't expect to lose a quarter of a billion dollars. As a result, she's been forced to take over a bigger role.

The future for OWN doesn't look bright -- I'll let you do your own research to see what I'm talking about -- but the bottom line is this, she doesn't it own it outright, she doesn't own a majority stake of it, so she doesn't control it, meaning she can't just do whatever the hell she wants without having someone else in her ear about it, i.e. the money men, which would be Discovery.