[Xenophon]

(05-16-2019 02:20 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

You don't think that's something he should OK himself?

What if he wants that hole in the net to remain as a reminder of what's going down?

It's not as if he's been hit by a bus. Does his opinion matter here?

Leonard, he does have an account here and can speak for himself. The website would serve as an archive only with a disclaimer. In my view it is exactly the same as those websites that reblog Roosh or RationalMale. As long as due credit is given, it's acceptable. If the original author asks for a take down, then it gets removed.

As far as leaving a hole in the Manosphere...I don't see what the use would be long-term if one of his phrases was "Game can save the West." Heartiste-style Game cannot save nor help the West if only a handful of OGs know about it. How many people think about the Book of Pook when they think about the Manosphere? Even though his posts were great and later assembled into a PDF, it is still a somewhat esoteric piece of literature for game newbies.

IMO, one of the reasons Heartiste's blog didn't have an even greater impact is precisely because it was run as a Wordpress.com subdomain. I've run a few Wordpress website both for free through Wordpress.com and as Wordpress stand alones on independent domains. Google takes a .com must more seriously than .wordpress.com or .blogspot.com Yes, eventually he broke through the sound barrier via continuous long-form posts and attracting a following which apparently included Milo and possible one of Trump's sons. Not that many people found Heartiste through Google even though his posts were often about things people search for. All of that is now gone. If we want the kids now in high school to get a taste of the red pill then the articles need to be in the Google Index collecting hits and clicks instead of being passed around as a PDF in RVF DMs.

I'm hoping that the man himself will get this all squared away but reading his Gab its becoming more apparent that IT is not his strength like it is with Roosh.

[911]

It's a good initiative, but a quibble on Google, I wouldn't count on the new domain getting a lot of play via Google, they will quarantine it in their search algorithms.

[Lance Blastoff]

(05-14-2019 09:05 PM)amicableCzar Wrote:  

Good riddance.
Heartiste devolved into a ranting KKK site. I stopped reading long ago.
He lost the script years ago, and ruined a good thing with his Nazi bullshit

This is exactly my feeling.

[911]

Shocker - Guy with EU flag strongly disapproves of Heartiste.

[Corinth Arkadin]

(05-16-2019 08:17 AM)911 Wrote:  

It's a good initiative, but a quibble on Google, I wouldn't count on the new domain getting a lot of play via Google, they will quarantine it in their search algorithms.

I can't really write what I think without some complaining I'm attacking them and getting me banned (I'm already at 60% for some bullshit sand-in-pussy complaint on HERE of all places).

CH was one of the greatest writers online and had my most enthusiastic readership. He was also right on pretty much everything up to the end and most would agree if they knew anything at all.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Heartiste seems to have been a semi-casual shitposter after all. He barely had some decent backups and lost 500 prepared and not published posts.

Said that he likely will put it up somewhere else.

I could imagine that they went after him after he promoted Roosh which is frankly a bit daft, but I guess the elite qualify as a real-life-meeting of masculine men as far more dangerous than anonymous shitposting even if that shitposting is more radical. It's a bit paranoid, because things would really have to get much worse before that group of men jump into real action, but I guess that they are not taking any chances.

This is also interesting - Paul Watson mentions that the first thing he does is check whether he is deplatformed. I guess it's all a matter of time.

[polar]

I find it hard to believe that Heartiste has no backups of his own. Hell, some RSS readers will let you see old archives, and web.archive.org probably has all the good stuff. I personally don't care about the comments section as that's digging through turds to find the gems.

Possibly plausible deniability for cleaning up the articles that do get reposted.

[VNvet]

(05-16-2019 12:16 PM)911 Wrote:  

Shocker - Guy with EU flag strongly disapproves of Heartiste.

The Mussolini avatar had me fooled for a second.

[bucky]

(05-16-2019 02:47 PM)polar Wrote:  

I find it hard to believe that Heartiste has no backups of his own. Hell, some RSS readers will let you see old archives, and web.archive.org probably has all the good stuff. I personally don't care about the comments section as that's digging through turds to find the gems.

Possibly plausible deniability for cleaning up the articles that do get reposted.

Watching trav777 the Christian-hating pro Muslim guy and Greg Elliot the Christian fundamentalist locked in bitter eternal battle in the comments section was interesting at times. The huge percentage of their lives those two would spend jockeying for alpha status was staggering.

[Caduceus]

How do we know the "Heartiste" posting on gab is the same one who got banned from wordpress ?
Not saying it's an impostor, but it sure doesn't write or sound like him. The guy writing on gab sounds a lot more "plain" and simple.
Heartiste was the "Shakespeare of Game"...a very unique & eloquent writing style which has never been duplicated anywhere else.

[bucky]

(05-17-2019 08:32 AM)Caduceus Wrote:  

How do we know the "Heartiste" posting on gab is the same one who got banned from wordpress ?
Not saying it's an impostor, but it sure doesn't write or sound like him. The guy writing on gab sounds a lot more "plain" and simple.
Heartiste was the "Shakespeare of Game"...a very unique & eloquent writing style which has never been duplicated anywhere else.

The Star Wars "strike me down and I'll become more powerful" reference sounded like CH to me. As for the overall difference in style, I figured he just wasn't "in character" while discussing the deplatforming, similar to the writing style he would use when replying to directly to commenters in the comments ssection. Still, good point, no way for us to know for sure.

[Enoch]

I think he mentioned in the blog getting booted from twitter and to find him on gab. Also he used to flesh out gab one liners on the blog.

[Sam2]

Roissy was/is more influential/known than many realized.

Tyler Cowen even made a post of his deplatforming:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalr...ormed.html

[Zep]

I read the link above and came across this - have to work now and can't look into it -

"No they aren't. Roissy is free to use Mastodon - https://joinmastodon.org/ - which is about as easy for the tech companies to stop as bittorrent"

[Blaster]

(05-11-2019 05:48 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

I'm not surprised. They have to let a few super evil neo-Nazi white supremacist types exist so they can trot them out to scare normies (Alinsky Rule #13). They can also say "we don't ban EVERYONE":

David Duke used to fill that role.

Now it's Richard Spencer.

Heartiste was anonymous, so it was inevitable he would get banned. Rule #13 can't be used against an institution or an anonymous guy.

Heartiste is also very intelligent and reasonable. He talks in colorful, incisive terms but is not as extreme as he comes off.

Richard Spencer, in addition to not being anonymous and more susceptible to rule #13, is also an extremist who wants a White Ethnostate, something that will never happen and doesn't have to be taken seriously. Heartiste on the other hand is fine with some level of immigration and non-white population, just something substantially more favorable than the current trajectory of whites being a minority. He wants a trajectory toward an say 80% white, which, as far as I'm concerned, seems like a perfectly fucking reasonable position to take and I'm sure there are many more who agree with that, than with Richard Spencer. Plus having a number like that suggests some negotiability and compromise possible.

[bucky]

So, no word on a rebirth? CH was one of the only two sites I would always check daily and I've been jonesing for some of that content that only he can do.

[rotekz]

(05-17-2019 08:32 AM)Caduceus Wrote:  

How do we know the "Heartiste" posting on gab is the same one who got banned from wordpress ?
Not saying it's an impostor, but it sure doesn't write or sound like him.

The same distinctive language and writing ability is there on the gab account. It has been going since 2016, and he has never AFAIK written on the blog that it is run by an impostor. None of the big dissident right Gab accounts call it out as fake in their interactions.

[Easy_C]

Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t even get:

A lot of us don’t act give a shit about “Whiteness”. We just don’t want to live in a society that either is actively trying to marginalize non-Jewish whites or one that elevates and celebrates the worst of the worst from third world migrants. As long as someone is willing to embrace, practice, and defend Orthodox Christian values I could give a shit less. What matters to me is that one is willing to invest in helping build that culture and not trying to uproot or replace it.

However the nature of that culture is such that K-select populations are incapable of doings that because it requires placing long term planning above short term resource consumption.


That’s why, even after discovering my own Jewish heritage, my choice is to stick with the Goyim. Judaism is very literally a slave religion(You’re basically the house slave that exists to serve a non-benevolent “God” who is describe as a “Space Born” in predecessor texts) whereas Orthodox Christianity is the blueprint for creating a society of individual autonomy and mutual cooperation as was intended by the creator (The “one that is all”).

[bucky]

(05-19-2019 10:17 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t even get:

A lot of us don’t act give a shit about “Whiteness”. We just don’t want to live in a society that either is actively trying to marginalize non-Jewish whites or one that elevates and celebrates the worst of the worst from third world migrants. As long as someone is willing to embrace, practice, and defend Orthodox Christian values I could give a shit less. What matters to me is that one is willing to invest in helping build that culture and not trying to uproot or replace it.

However the nature of that culture is such that K-select populations are incapable of doings that because it requires placing long term planning above short term resource consumption.


That’s why, even after discovering my own Jewish heritage, my choice is to stick with the Goyim. Judaism is very literally a slave religion(You’re basically the house slave that exists to serve a non-benevolent “God” who is describe as a “Space Born” in predecessor texts) whereas Orthodox Christianity is the blueprint for creating a society of individual autonomy and mutual cooperation as was intended by the creator (The “one that is all”).

I basically like what you're saying here and as a caveat, I'm not sure if by Orthodox you mean as opposed to Protestant or Catholic (but I'm guessing you do because of the capitalization). I don't personally have a dog in the fight, such as it is, between the three major divisions of Christianity but in the case of the US I'd say it's obviously the protestant strain of Christianity that's ideal, since it's the one that the original Anglo-Saxon heritage Americans who built the country overwhelmingly followed. My wife is a devout Catholic and in attending mass and her church community for the last few years, I've been struck with how inherently unamerican Catholicism is: collectivist, hugely in favor of mass third-world immigration, lack of puritan work ethic, etc. I don't know as much about Orthodox Christianity, but looking at the parts of the world where it thrives, I doubt that it's ideal for an Anglo-Saxon country either (or, more accurately, a country that should be majority Anglo-Saxon).

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

(05-19-2019 10:40 AM)bucky Wrote:  

(05-19-2019 10:17 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t even get:

A lot of us don’t act give a shit about “Whiteness”. We just don’t want to live in a society that either is actively trying to marginalize non-Jewish whites or one that elevates and celebrates the worst of the worst from third world migrants. As long as someone is willing to embrace, practice, and defend Orthodox Christian values I could give a shit less. What matters to me is that one is willing to invest in helping build that culture and not trying to uproot or replace it.

However the nature of that culture is such that K-select populations are incapable of doings that because it requires placing long term planning above short term resource consumption.


That’s why, even after discovering my own Jewish heritage, my choice is to stick with the Goyim. Judaism is very literally a slave religion(You’re basically the house slave that exists to serve a non-benevolent “God” who is describe as a “Space Born” in predecessor texts) whereas Orthodox Christianity is the blueprint for creating a society of individual autonomy and mutual cooperation as was intended by the creator (The “one that is all”).

I basically like what you're saying here and as a caveat, I'm not sure if by Orthodox you mean as opposed to Protestant or Catholic (but I'm guessing you do because of the capitalization). I don't personally have a dog in the fight, such as it is, between the three major divisions of Christianity but in the case of the US I'd say it's obviously the protestant strain of Christianity that's ideal, since it's the one that the original Anglo-Saxon heritage Americans who built the country overwhelmingly followed. My wife is a devout Catholic and in attending mass and her church community for the last few years, I've been struck with how inherently unamerican Catholicism is: collectivist, hugely in favor of mass third-world immigration, lack of puritan work ethic, etc. I don't know as much about Orthodox Christianity, but looking at the parts of the world where it thrives, I doubt that it's ideal for an Anglo-Saxon country either (or, more accurately, a country that should be majority Anglo-Saxon).

I consider myself a non-denominational Christian but look to find a denomination closest to the original teachings of the early church as founded by Jesus' disciples. There's a pretty good case to be made that that's the Orthodox Church, at least out of the major denominations (something like Coptic might be even closer but tough to find a church outside of Egypt). Catholicism can be good too depending on which church you find, the current Pope notwithstanding. While the things you mention about Catholicism do bother me, they make sense within the context of the religion. I have no problem with churches taking in refugees for example, I just don't want the government forcing me to do it.

Protestantism is too broad of a brush, especially in the US where there is no real dominant strain. You have certain denominations like Southern Baptist that are pretty red-pilled, then you also have strains like Episcopalianism and Unitarianism that are as globohomo as it gets.

[bucky]

(05-19-2019 11:37 AM)Dr Mantis Toboggan Wrote:  

(05-19-2019 10:40 AM)bucky Wrote:  

(05-19-2019 10:17 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Here’s something I think a lot of people don’t even get:

A lot of us don’t act give a shit about “Whiteness”. We just don’t want to live in a society that either is actively trying to marginalize non-Jewish whites or one that elevates and celebrates the worst of the worst from third world migrants. As long as someone is willing to embrace, practice, and defend Orthodox Christian values I could give a shit less. What matters to me is that one is willing to invest in helping build that culture and not trying to uproot or replace it.

However the nature of that culture is such that K-select populations are incapable of doings that because it requires placing long term planning above short term resource consumption.


That’s why, even after discovering my own Jewish heritage, my choice is to stick with the Goyim. Judaism is very literally a slave religion(You’re basically the house slave that exists to serve a non-benevolent “God” who is describe as a “Space Born” in predecessor texts) whereas Orthodox Christianity is the blueprint for creating a society of individual autonomy and mutual cooperation as was intended by the creator (The “one that is all”).

I basically like what you're saying here and as a caveat, I'm not sure if by Orthodox you mean as opposed to Protestant or Catholic (but I'm guessing you do because of the capitalization). I don't personally have a dog in the fight, such as it is, between the three major divisions of Christianity but in the case of the US I'd say it's obviously the protestant strain of Christianity that's ideal, since it's the one that the original Anglo-Saxon heritage Americans who built the country overwhelmingly followed. My wife is a devout Catholic and in attending mass and her church community for the last few years, I've been struck with how inherently unamerican Catholicism is: collectivist, hugely in favor of mass third-world immigration, lack of puritan work ethic, etc. I don't know as much about Orthodox Christianity, but looking at the parts of the world where it thrives, I doubt that it's ideal for an Anglo-Saxon country either (or, more accurately, a country that should be majority Anglo-Saxon).

I consider myself a non-denominational Christian but look to find a denomination closest to the original teachings of the early church as founded by Jesus' disciples. There's a pretty good case to be made that that's the Orthodox Church, at least out of the major denominations (something like Coptic might be even closer but tough to find a church outside of Egypt). Catholicism can be good too depending on which church you find, the current Pope notwithstanding. While the things you mention about Catholicism do bother me, they make sense within the context of the religion. I have no problem with churches taking in refugees for example, I just don't want the government forcing me to do it.

Protestantism is too broad of a brush, especially in the US where there is no real dominant strain. You have certain denominations like Southern Baptist that are pretty red-pilled, then you also have strains like Episcopalianism and Unitarianism that are as globohomo as it gets.

I'm nondenominational like you and also no expert on theology, but I also tend to see the Orthodox as the "purest" of Christians, as well as the most masculine. The Roman Catholic church as a lot going for it too, I just think it's overall better suited to Latin countries than this one, as I imagine Orthodoxy is better suited to eastern Europe. To me it seems that there's just something about the various strains of Protestantism that led to making Anglo-Saxon countries in general, and the US in particular, great.

Topic for another thread though, I suppose. For now I just want my Heartiste back.

[911]

Pre-Vatican II Catholicism was completely uncucked, far less so than any strain of Protestianism.

Calvin was probably a crypto-Jew, his original name in French was "Cauin", a francizied transcription of his real name, Cohen. According to theologian historian Jerome Bolsec, Cauin had homosexual and sadistic predilections.

American evangelism was corrupted from the start with the Rothschild-funded Darby/Scofield dispensationalist bible, a movement which was started by con artists like Cyrus Scofield.

https://jamesperloff.com/tag/dispensationalism/


This was the face of Catholicism in America before Vatican II, Father Coughlin was the most popular preacher in the middle of the 20th century:

His legacy is preserved by upright members of the clergy like Father Chad Ripperger. For Bucky, I would recommend looking into his theological and moral guidance as an alternative to your local VaticanII milquetoast parish:

Fr Ripperger main site:

http://sensustraditionis.org

[Bill Oreilly]

I’ve checked some of the resources here but they are incomplete. Does anyone know of a complete archive? If it is truly gone this is an absolute tragedy, Roissy was the single greatest game resource in history probably.

[911]

Maybe this will compel him to put it all in a book, I think it would sell well.

[Hypno]

(05-17-2019 09:43 AM)Sam2 Wrote:  

Roissy was/is more influential/known than many realized.

Tyler Cowen even made a post of his deplatforming:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalr...ormed.html

He's a little too glib about the deplatforming but he has a point - the internet has given us 100 steps forward in terms of communication, even if the deplatforming is a few steps backwards. Maybe more than a few.