[Corinth Arkadin]

(05-12-2019 04:31 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

[quote='Days of Broken Arrows' pid='1978514' dateline='1557695064']

Let me clue you in as a lawyer: punching anyone is a crime. If he falls the wrong way, it's manslaughter. Depending on how much you punch, it can be assault with intent to murder or aggravated battery.

Hate crimes are the least of the issues, and only operative, as I told you, with evidence to prove the intent to intimidate based on race, etc.

You are forgetting it's the current year after the last few current years, where the likes of Jusse Smolett and Casey Anthony are walking around unattended, and James Alex Fields Jr. is stewing in a jail cell for life.

Remember that Shakespeare said, the first thing we do is k!ll all the lawyers.

[LeeEnfield303]

Isn't Ace of Spades' server on a Pacific island somewhere? Sounds prudent to me.

[christpuncher]

I guess it's too late now for me to figure out how to actually pronounce Heartiste...

[godfather dust]

Yeah, heart-east or hartist? Never knew myself.

[Abelard Lindsey]

I thought it was He-artiste (French pronunciation?). In any case, he'll be back on-line once he recreates his website under his own domain (like Vox Day). Vox Day has been saying for some years that political dissidents need to create their own platforms. There is simply no other way.

[CynicalContrarian]

(05-12-2019 10:47 PM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

I thought it was He-artiste (French pronunciation?). In any case, he'll be back on-line once he recreates his website under his own domain (like Vox Day). Vox Day has been saying for some years that political dissidents need to create their own platforms. There is simply no other way.

At the very least.
Have viable backup plans ready to go.

Lord knows sinister Soycialists will try anything to have their way.

[DarkTriad]

(05-10-2019 04:31 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 04:30 PM)RichardCranium Wrote:  

That happened in the last couple of hours I was on there earlier today.

So it was you.... What did you do?... WHAT DID YOU DO?!!!!

He broke the internet. The whole thing.

[VNvet]

I remember him discussing what would happen when he got banned - I believe he called it the final logout.

If I remember correctly, he said to archive the blog because he wasn't going to start his own website. Once it's gone; it's gone.

[Mufasa]

(05-13-2019 01:17 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

I remember him discussing what would happen when he got banned - I believe he called it the final logout.

If I remember correctly, he said to archive the blog because he wasn't going to start his own website. Once it's gone; it's gone.

Anybody have it archived?

[dukecro]

Didn't dig through all of it but this seems a good archive

https://mensarchive.net/chateauheartiste

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(05-12-2019 09:11 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

Yeah, heart-east or hartist? Never knew myself.

None, he-artiste. Literally a pun on "male artist".

[Teedub]

Ha, I always just mentally read it as "Heart-iste", rhyming with 'artiste'. But He-artiste makes sense.

Question is, is it still Roissy?

[username]

(05-10-2019 03:42 PM)RedKurrant Wrote:  

It will only be a matter of time until they come for Roosh. Speaking of which, is there an archive of Roosh's content/a backup for the forum?

I made a personal backup of the public RVF in February. I probably should do a fresh update again soon.

[Xenophon]

I think it was Mike Cernovich (MikeCF) who once described Heartiste as the "Aristotle of the Manosphere." Although I stumbled onto Heartiste after finding Roosh, I believe that it was Roissy/CH/Heartiste that greatly influenced Roosh back in the early to mid 00's when they ran together in the DC/Maryland area with other cats like Virgie Kent (Empires of Dust). They are technically Eskimo brothers since they banged the same Asian chick, too.

I'm surprised how many people here actually believe Roissy and Heartiste are different people. The official story goes something like this: A high IQ (excellent written prose) player making groundbreaking social observations about the Decline of the West and Nature of Woman breaks onto the scene (2007) but is doxxed by a flame named LadyRayn (2009-2010?) and hands his blog over to his protege Heartiste. Where did he find Heartiste? There are a lot of RVFers who understand the observations that Heartiste makes but don't have the writing skills you find on that blog.

What are the odds that the player you know from a local bar is also a talented writer? What are the odds that that talented, like-minded player (because there are also leftist players) has the time to post up to 3-4 times per day without running ads or taking donations on the blog (his PayPal donation button was disabled over a year ago)? Did he charge to turn over a blog that already had a following? Since the blog wasn't registered as a Top-Level Domain (TLD) like heartiste.com but instead was hosted via Wordpress.com, turning it over to another person probably just meant giving them the username and password. Whereas, if Roosh wanted to sell rooshv.com to someone for $1 million, he would mark the domain as "for sale" and run the transfer through the web host similar to an escrow service. So, we either have the username and password being e-mailed at no cost or written down on a napkin and swapped for cash-in-hand to the new Heartiste.

Alternatively, in a parallel and logical universe, we have Roissy deleting his old blog and creating Citizen Renegade before settling on Chateau Heartiste with the cover story that the original proprietor had left the building. A remade blog at a new URL with an ostensibly new host creates plausible deniability. This is not too dissimilar from the story of Satoshi Nakamoto and Bitcoin.

The content changes from the 2007-2010 era "here's a sweet oneliner" posts into the political posts for the same reason Roosh's posts have gone from "How to get your Scandinavian flag hat trick" to "We are fighting pure evil." People change. Their interests change or they run out of things to say about a given topic. Go read Heartiste's early work and his Commandments of Poon and then come back here and tell me what he missed. Almost nothing.

Also consider that Roissy is likely a few years older than Roosh. Is a man that helped shape the Manosphere at age 33 (ish) with a blog before social media and Tinder still using his verbal routines to pickup chicks at college bars at age 45? Does he even care? Did he start a family and move into political posts to help reshape the environment around him into something less toxic?

Most of the people who don't like the new Heartiste are upset with being classified as "part of the problem." He created a page called "Diversity + Proximity = War" with a reference list of scientific studies showing that multicultural, multiracial societies who pray to different God(s) end up collapsing. The Japanese build excellent cars without worrying about how many Blacks or Native Americans are working on the assembly lines. As the United States becomes more diverse, it is slowly locking up like an engine without oil because NOTHING can be done without wondering about how many Blacks and/or Mexicans and/or Native Americans are put into positions of power for no other reason than to stick it to Whitey. Of course there are qualified employees coming from every single race who would thrive in a meritocracy. That percentage, however, is noticeably smaller than the percentage of capable Heritage Americans (Trademark Heartiste) so a meritocracy it cannot be. That used to be a taboo topic on this forum just a few years ago as well. Some people left this forum once that floodgate was opened and people started posting their opinions freely about Mass Migration, Black Lives Matter, Chinese/Mexican anchor babies or anything else related. These people want the cool, tall white guy who wing them to pick up sorority girls on K Street ... not the frat boy who recognizes that some communities leech off government welfare or form ethnocentric, disloyal communes on the West and East coasts.

It wouldn't be hard for Heartiste to reappear. I'm sure he has a .zip file of all of his work. I too saw his comments a few months if not a year or two ago indicating that he knew he was a target. Hell, there was even a leftist soyboy Wordpress employee publicly tweeting about his desire to deplatform Heartiste. Heartiste saw his tweets and embedded them into a post addressing censorship. That was right around the time of Trump's election so any smart individual who didn't download his docs at that time is perhaps not so smart after all. There are now web hosts who accept cryptocurrencies to both host and register domains. Some of them are even offshore in friendlier, patriarchal, low-diversity countries.

I agree with one of the previous posters. He has the means, he has the backup data, he knows how to use crypto and maintain his privacy. He's just probably not gonna do it.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Nice analysis Xenophon. I always thought it was the same person, and that he was using the plausible deniability of "new blog, new writer(s)" to let his doxxing fade into memory. How the fuck would you find multiple RP/game-oriented people to take over who could pull off his deeply thorough takes with his trademark scathing wit? His writing style was unique and unreplicatable IMO.

I always thought it was pronounced like "artiste." I believe he was a writer by passion, and I think/hope he'll make a return somehow/some day.

[heavy]

(05-13-2019 06:39 AM)Xenophon Wrote:  

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I agree with one of the previous posters. He has the means, he has the backup data, he knows how to use crypto and maintain his privacy. He's just probably not gonna do it.

Damn, I sure hope he does. I'm on here because of heartiste. And I miss his brutal, eloquent honesty.

[Dusty]

I wonder if something like Taki Magazine or VDare would offer heartiste a spot on their website? They know about him. Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire are fans. They may even pay him a few bucks.

He has too much talent, and too influential, to not be in the arena.

My guess is he will use this is an opportunity to take a break (a daily blog must be a grind), but he will be back.

[Cavorite]

Is anyone on Gab? He used to post there after he got kicked off twitter. I assume that's where he would make any announcements

[Abelard Lindsey]

(05-13-2019 01:17 AM)VNvet Wrote:  

I remember him discussing what would happen when he got banned - I believe he called it the final logout.

If I remember correctly, he said to archive the blog because he wasn't going to start his own website. Once it's gone; it's gone.

It sounds like he was burning out on it anyways. If so, he's taking the deplatforming as reason to retire from blogging.

[heavy]

If he is burned out, I suspect that'll only last so long.

A good writer and thinker can only stand aside and watch less talented people struggle to articulate the culture for so long before jumping back in.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

https://gab.com/Heartiste

He stopped posting 4 days ago.


Maybe he is thinking about continuing in some way, but it rather looks like he does not want to anymore. So far the mainstream press has left him alone - if he continues, then they might drag up everything. We don't know whether he has a wife or kids by now. I doubt that he thinks that he could do a significant difference anyway - no reason to impact negatively the life of his kids.

And frankly - it's all moot anyway - sooner or later every thought criminal will be banned and all online congregation sites will be closed.

They just shut down Roosh's private Instagram account probably because he announced his US tour.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(05-13-2019 11:42 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

https://gab.com/Heartiste

He stopped posting 4 days ago.


Maybe he is thinking about continuing in some way, but it rather looks like he does not want to anymore. So far the mainstream press has left him alone - if he continues, then they might drag up everything. We don't know whether he has a wife or kids by now. I doubt that he thinks that he could do a significant difference anyway - no reason to impact negatively the life of his kids.

And frankly - it's all moot anyway - sooner or later every thought criminal will be banned and all online congregation sites will be closed.

They just shut down Roosh's private Instagram account probably because he announced his US tour.

No, it's because he's not an underage 17-year-old girl showing her bare ass cheeks in thong bathing suit shots. (Someone I know has a daughter with an actual account like this and she has never been banned.)

[RedPillUK]

(05-13-2019 06:39 AM)Xenophon Wrote:  

What are the odds that the player you know from a local bar is also a talented writer? What are the odds that that talented, like-minded player (because there are also leftist players) has the time to post up to 3-4 times per day without running ads or taking donations on the blog (his PayPal donation button was disabled over a year ago)?

This part just isn't true. He posted on average about once a day.

[RexImperator]

F



He had a real talent for writing. His blog was hugely influential and something I enjoyed reading, including the comments, which sometimes went off the rails. I have been expecting this for a while. Even if the blog is gone, the legacy continues in hundreds of other sites.

This campaign of censorship will ultimately fail and reeks of desperation.

[lex the impaler]

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