[Nick98]

About me :
20 y.o
University student (Sophomore)
Lives in a middle eastern country (majority of the country muslims and the rest are christians).
Living with parents
Long time lurker(About 2 years).
Problem: Daygame/Nightgame/College game.

People's mindset in the country: Discussed before that it's a muslim country, so most people mindset is pretty similar , however there are very few people like me who are muslims, but not conservative.No girls wears shorts in front of the public, no couple kiss each other in the street , if you're gonna makeout in the car make sure that nobody sees you, or they may interrupt your engagement with the girl , as it 's not the right thing to do in a muslim country, you have to follow the rules of being a muslim, and not do something strange to them.

Daygame(Streets): For girls it's advised to move fast , not walk slowly , because horny men may catcall you. It's advised to not wear anything slutty or show too much skin, No skirts, No shorts,preferably wear a hijabi so you follow the right rules. For men , If you talk to a woman in the street , other men may interrupt you , calling you on not following the rules of being a muslim, and also may accuse you for bothering her. Social Pressure IS HUGE , in this country, and there's no way it may turn down any time soon.So basically no girl in this country has ever been cold approached before , but may have been cat called, or hit on several times but guys in her social circle , or on social media for sure.
To sum it up: No much talents in the street, And you shouldn't approach or people will beat you up.

Nightgame: I live with parents, there's only one or 2 spots in the whole city. where there are some clubs and cafes. For me to get there it requires driving for 1 hour , not a big deal. But most of the people here are with their social circles. It's a social circles game here in this country. Cold APPROACH IS DEAD!

College game: I stated before I'm a sophomore , and been a long time lurker. this means I discovered this forum before I went to College. By the way we have no frats.And dorms are separate for males and females. I'm in the one of the best uni in the country and the talents are the best,8's ,9's,10's bouncing boobies, jiggly butts and everything slutty .While being aware of what I've read her and any other places. it was advised to be social and make a lots of friends and high five them and become the popular guy. rather than isolating , escalating and being called the loser weird creepy pick up guy. So I tried to do that , I tried to build so many friends the first year in college, And I did knew a lot of people but never developed deep connections with many of them, i was an inexperienced human being, I did the move on introducing people to each other , and it is the best advice I've ever encountered for social circle game. The girls that I introduced to each other one of them still holds a major RESPECT for me, and by the time we argued and we spread apart, she didn't talk shit about me in her social circle.I know some of you guys wished they knew the advise in the forum early , in their college years.
But trust me , it may help you , but it won't turn you to tom cruise in college or Dan belzerian because at that time , You're Already Inexperienced , and don't get much clues / social calibration. I've tried my best , and I failed BUT I've developed. I've stuck myself in a bad social circle in college , and eventually lost them one by one (by my own decision) , they were girls that weren't fun to hang out with, and they were not that hot , and on top of that they're conservative.
Yes , Most of the country girls are conservative , They may let you practise game on them but it's really tough to crack a muslim conservative virgin. It's a huge sin. and the road is hard for me. I'm trying at the moment to screen for girls who smoke/ get drunk , to game on. As I may be learning game and at the same time I may have a small opportunity to get laid. Guys it's tough. I don't know where to game, and what to do. For night game , it doesn't feel right for me to go in a place when all the people here are with their social circles and i'm here to cold approach while barely knowing anyone. When i can already spent this time with my buddies whom i have fun with. i may not build my state up while going down the road to convey value while cold approaching + it's already hard.

Any advice is really appreciated, any further questions about me or country or the situation would be replied eventually.
Thank you guys , and for this forum.
P.S Sorry for the grammar mistakes.

[Tinder Scientist]

I would suggest making a more concrete question.

[Obermarschall]

@OP you answered yourself it is a social circle's game or you can try online, but I wouldn't count on that.
Also what about you? How do you look like, what are your ideas for the future (jobs, career, etc), hobbies, etc

[Nick98]

(04-12-2019 07:43 AM)Obermarschall Wrote:  

@OP you answered yourself it is a social circle's game or you can try online, but I wouldn't count on that.
Also what about you? How do you look like, what are your ideas for the future (jobs, career, etc), hobbies, etc

Bellow average,Like a 4, but not ugly that you've to look away.But dresses really good,and no trouble getting eye contacts , mostly from 7's , rarely from 8's or above.
Hobbies:tennis,football,music,gym, btw hates doing cardio but love to lift weights i found it fun rather than just running and doing stuff you don't enjoy to stay fit ..etc don't know how your question would direct me to how to game.so let me know.
Jobs/Career ?All I know is I would run my own business becausei don't want to have a 9-5 job , I've tried it and i hate that.

[Nick98]

(04-12-2019 07:43 AM)Obermarschall Wrote:  

@OP you answered yourself it is a social circle's game or you can try online, but I wouldn't count on that.

For online ,The looks aren't on my side , which puts me in a disadvantage.However i'm planning to create an instagram soon, and add pictures of me and some animals, chick loves that , and I love it too.

Social circle, I'm partially introvert.It seems like getting into a social circle in the first place is tough, but i'm pushing that.

Another thing about me is , I'm too harsh on myself. I don't want to be in a social circle of 6's and, people who i don't enjoy their company. And see myself as trying to go for the upper class circles , and imagining being one of them. which tends to put me in the loner zone, who doesn't succeeded to get what he wants , and doesn't want to settle for less than what he thinks he deserves, and the circles he doesn't enjoy. Which leaves me frustrated and confused.

[Nick98]

Update in college(2 weeks ago):
I've let one of my buddies introduce me to one of the girls he sits with in college. She's DTF and smokes weed which's pretty rare to find here. .She's a 6-7.Her main good feature is her green eyes, but this chick is so thick and didn't pass the boner test for me TILL NOW.
I've planned from 2 weeks ago if i had an opportunity to talk with a girl , I would just spit game at her that I've learned here even tho I might get a bad reputation, I am in a position where I have nothing to loose.
The first time we met ,and my buddy was sitting with us , i did a really good job on making a good first impression. She talked about our society composed of sexless entities , and how her father doesn't allow her to hangout at late night, I maintained a frame of non judgement and encouraging her to speak more, and I have dropped this " your father isn't the one that should raise you , but your mother she has to take care of everything" Agreed and amplified , and dropped lies "I know lot of girls that starts their hangout at midnight", She didn't tell us her real name , so i teased her about that.
The next time i see her sitting alone , I come sit beside her. She Asks me questions,and seems open.I started the topic of music.
-So do you like listening to music ?
-Yes , I love R&B and Pop.
-It seems like you like eminem.
-I hate eminem , Because he said something shit about muslims before.I love Jay Z so much , and Zayn malik.
-I HATE zayn malik ( while making a face that shows disinterest on what she's saying)
She Asks me if i am a sophomore.
-So you are a Sophomore.
-Yes , and you?
-I'm a freshman
-I'm your daddy. (She eventually laughs)

She talks about travelling, she have been to england , and spain. She has 2 younger brothers than her, one of them was born in the usa.
I make sure to maintain eye contact and break it every now and then. At the middle of the conversation I stood up to check on something and walked for like 2 footsteps, she shouted "Where are you going ? ", She clearly wanted me to stay.
I had to go so I saluted her and went my way , she had a smile on her face.
2 hours later I run into her walking alone , she initiates the eye contact , and as i'm extending my hands to shake her hand to go our separate ways "SHE PIERCES HER HAND FORCEFULLY AGAINST MINE" Like hugging it tightly. I should've stopped her there and spitted more comfort and game , but I Dumbly went my own separate way.

2 days ago , Words of mouth. People are calling her a whore, And one guy have came and told me this " This girl that you are talking to has a boyfriend, and she's a slut,and my advise is don't talk to her again" , I played dumb " What girl/ I don't want anything from her we're just friends/I don't care who's her boyfriend ? point it out to me" , and he tells me " When I see him i will point it out to you" , I've seen her with several guys before , it looks like she clearly just wants sex , and she's playing. for me , I don't care , I want to spit game and get laid.
Words of mouth. My buddy once told me she told him"Let's smoke weed today at your home alone" , Sadly he didn't agree because first he lives with his parents, and 2nd he is in a committed in relationship.

The next time I'm sitting with her alone I would do two main things.
First: Play a tactic game to get the conversation going.
Second: Drop kaotic's Line , to switch the conversations to relationships, "You know I'm beginning to realize men are acting like women and women are acting like men"

[nirala]

I have also been in similar situation. I am gonna ramble on a bit and share some experience which you might find relatable. It's good to find a relatable thread so I can post here.

I also live in a place with Muslim population. Super conservative. I am also new to game and was a total piece of shit beta in undergrad. There were so many HB7'S and HB8'S girls there but I didn't do nothing besides being thirsty for them.

I was able to join an upper class circle and got to attend some parties with alcohol and shit. That's how I lost my virginity. I've been able to lay a few drunken sluts, all about 5's. Also got a date with couple of them, but couldn't get them to sleep with me again. I would like to point out that it was before finding this forum. Also it was easy to score because these parties were organised at a big place with a lot of spare rooms. But unfortunately I didn't bring much value to the guys who got me access to these parties and I got cutoff.

There were some guys in undergrad who were part of multiple social circles there that got them access to so many hot babes. They also had good game and they were slaying it. So I know it's not impossible to get pussy here. College social circle game is awesome. Unfortunately now I am in grad school and it's kind of fucked up situation. I am still in the same university I was in for undergrad and it makes it difficult as people who knew me in undergrad still see me as the low value beta I was then.

I will advice you to not give up on social circle game. Undergrad is probably the only time you can make a big social circle with female contacts, considering you're also in a Muslim country. Make connections with as many girls and guys you can while you're in undergrad, coz once you get out, it gets impossible to start from zero with females. Muslim girls are the most open during college, this is the time to make connections with them, have social circle, which will help you get pussy in future too.

[Beirut]

Are you guys in Jordan

[nirala]

No I am south Asian.

[nirala]

Hey Nick98, I read some of your threads. The talk don't approach advice you got there seems pretty solid. I wanted to ask if you have ever daygamed in Cairo. I was thinking that we've got similar cultures but Cairo is a relatively bigger city with better nightlife, so I was thinking we should build a strategy for daygaming in our conservative cultures. We can discuss ideas and create a specific strategy for our circumstances to apply game ideas.