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02-27-2019, 02:18 AM
Hey mate I'll give you my 2 cents
1: yes the Ukraine thread and the Russia thread
2: personnaly If I would go wife hunting I would stay in one city in one country for as much time as I can, In your case I woud go to 2/3 tier Russia like Novossibirsk or Krasnodar (I would still visit Moscow and St petersburg for a few days)
3: Never been to Odessa but from what I heard it's gold digger central
4: stay away from them most of them are a pure scam
5: I am European so I won't talk from the same point of view as you. I think most people do short trips 1-2 weeks hence the poor results(especially in Ukraine) you won't find work in eastern europe as a short term visitor without fluent russian. I did long term trips. I'm not in wife hunting but mode from my experience the best way to score with hot girls are to be in Kiev and avoid the city center (khreshchatyk, Arena, CHI, Skybar etc...) and go to large shopping malls and bars and clubs on the outskirt of the city.
6: Yes if you decide to be in Ukraine most of the time. You can do without it in Moscow but the hottest girls 8's+ will have a poor english.
Avoid Poland and Estonia coming from Australia I would stick to Ukraine/Russia
oh and if you go to Moscow go to Icon club plenty of 7's and great ratios
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02-27-2019, 08:07 AM
1. Yeh, type "country name" into "Search (Via Forum)", a treasure trove of information there.
2. One city -> 2nd tier city e.g. ~ 1 mil population. Yes, it's true that English levels are lower in 2nd tier cities but there's disadvantages in bigger cities too such as high sex tourism stigma, low foreigner exotic factor, and less "traditional girls". For curiosity sake you could do a short trip in a 1st tier city just for fun / pipelined birds.
3. It's played out.
4. No, just NO.
5. Find a way to earn money from your Western country/currency... internet business, property investment, etc.
6. It's an incredibly difficult language to learn, it would take you thousands of dedicated hours. Of course learn basic phrases to get by, but realistically your ROI is not going to be worth it unless you spend over 1 year in the country.
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02-27-2019, 12:25 PM
Why would you avoid Poland and Estonia if coming from Australia, LeBaron?
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02-28-2019, 03:07 PM
If you are wanting to find country girls, check out Saaremaa and Hiiumaa islands in Estonia.
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02-28-2019, 10:04 PM
What's wrong with the agencies? (apart from most of them being scams).
Surely there is at least 1 or 2 good ones. The quality I've seen the losers on the various YouTube's I've seen on them looks pretty good (obviously they'll load the TV footage with the best).
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03-01-2019, 11:34 AM
To get a young hottie will not be easy unless you go there long term and do something like the Chinese ping pong guy.
Otherwise it will mainly be older women with kids looking for a provider.
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03-02-2019, 08:39 AM
OP — are you able to dedicate 6+ months to learning Russian intensively?
Your reach will expand exponentially among the 85% + of the FSU population who speak minimal to zero English
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03-02-2019, 12:55 PM
Have you thought about joining the Russian Orthodox church in your city and trying to pipeline or network through the church members?
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03-20-2019, 10:11 PM
Am going at the end of May. Was thinking of this itinerary:
- Kiev (I know some people in this city)
- Odessa
- St. Petersburg
Each about 9-10 days. Order is not important, will choose based on cheapest flights.
I figured 9-10 days is a decent amount of time to get a feel for the city and a reasonable chance to have some follow up dates. I know we'd have to stay for a month if we wanted a good chance at something more, but screw flying all that way to spend a month in one place. Can you train/day trip from the Ukraine major city to another to get another one in?
Purpose of the trip is 50/50 tourist/scoping trip for further visits.
Thoughts?
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03-21-2019, 12:36 PM
A very important word to learn if you ever visit Russia or Ukraine is "skolko", use it when you open girls
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03-23-2019, 11:04 AM
Which one would you choose, Poland or Ukraine?
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03-25-2019, 04:32 AM
Try using duolingo before heading to your destination and as for Ukraine, due to the political situation, I would be cautious not confusing Ukrainian for Russian etc. Also you could consider leaving Ukraine and instead go to Poland, because nowadays you already have a lot of Ukrainians there, plus you can reach within 1 hour or less (by bus) 2nd or 3rd tier cities in Poland, which aren't that bad. Use the shopping malls and galleries to your advantage, as even 2nd or 3rd tier cities have a big mall. Use also the parks in Poland for daygaming.
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03-25-2019, 05:11 AM
Any alternative to renting airbnbs?
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03-25-2019, 11:05 PM
I am married to a beautiful, blue eyed blonde Estonian. I now live in Estonia. I think for Wife Material, Estonia is as good as it gets. Ive been to Ukraine and Russia. If i was going for lays id go to Ukraine or Russia. Wife hunting id go to Estonia and stay for 3 months and not in Tallinn. Viljandi, Tartu are good options.
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04-05-2019, 12:03 AM
Posted this on the Wife Hunting thread. Perhaps more pertinent here, given the subject matter. Be interested in any thoughts...
Long story short, wasted pretty much my entire 30s sleeping around, and chasing the player lifestyle. First half of my thirties (up to around 2013) was successful, had a lot of girls, but being a feckless idiot let many of them drift in chasing the player lifestyle. Second half of my thirties drifted into bad choices, at varying points depression, and ultimately failure and at points isolation. Now in recent couple of years got myself back on track, and at (a young) 42, feel i'm on my last go round to find a traditional and good woman to start a family and settle down with.
I'm in good physical condition from training boxing (my main hobby), looks wise am decent looking (i guess around a 7 fwiw), and am somewhat financially independent (i own outright a property in my home country, which is rented out and nets me around 1000USD pcm, also do a few bits and pieces online and teach english to supplement this). I am European, and do not want to go outside of European / Euro descended women. I am politically nationalistic, and value traditionalism. I am Christian. I have lived and worked in EE, and consider this the best region for me, and the kind of women i would like to attract.
In my experience as someone who moved East nearly a decade ago, is that the SMV of a westerner has fallen exponentially year on year in this region. Speaking with friends of mine (mostly Ukranian) they agree, that in Ukraine, a woman to be with a westerner is a low-status thing now, whereas a few years ago it was the opposite. They may string along foreigners in exchange for dates, attention, presents etc, but if they're any attractive or high value, they'll have a local boyfriend in the background. Now of course, you wouldnt want to attract those kind of girls as a future partner, but the point remains, that the legions of thirsty men who've travelled east having been sold a 'pussy paradise' by the last decades PUA industry, have pissed in the well out there.
I am in the process of looking at regions to live in, and give this 6 months. I dont believe you can attract any mate of value if you're passing through. You need to have some form of stability or work IMHO.
Currently I am thinking of:
Kiev - pros - standard of women, cheap cost of living. Negs - a prime example of a place jaded by Western thirsty males. Not a place i'd want to build a long term life.
South Balkans, specifically Macedonia / Serbia / Montenegro - I've never been, but being Slavic i am assuming the woman are attractive. Cheap living, beautiful country nature wise. Traditional cultures.
Spain - I speak Spanish, love the culture, and it is a great country and society to build a future. However it is not especially traditional these days, the Spanish in my exp are superficially friendly, but often not much beyond that. Being so sociable, all women of value have hosts of orbiters, or friends matchmaking for them.
I'm kicking around ideas at the moment, apologies if this post is unfocused. Given my criteria and situation, i'd be interested in any thoughts on it all...
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04-05-2019, 12:33 AM
Interesting thoughts on the pissing in the well comment.
I've been looking at flights and you can see the Russian-Ukrainian political tensions - no direct fights between the countries as far as I can tell. All go via Minsk (Belarus).
Am currently thinking of going to Ukraine and Poland now, simply to save on flights and also give us both a bit of a break in regards to language difficulties and Russia visa costs. We don't mind some language difficulties but a whole month might be too much.
So perhaps - Kiev, Odessa + Krakow over our month holiday (approx. 9 days each), with maybe a train day trips out to other smaller cities if possible.
FYI flights in June (summer) look to be around $2,400 AUD ($1,700 USD) return to Melbourne + one internal flight between the countries. Not cheap, but then again, not a very popular destination.