[Hokie30]

(10-15-2011 12:39 AM)Derek Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 02:54 PM)Snok Wrote:  

About the good lokking men issue.
I have spent quite much time on the west coast US and Hawaii the last year. To compare men and woman living in those places pluss Norway I would say these factors are the main differences;

-Norwegians are taller
-Norwegians work out a lot more. Cultural thing.
-Norwegians dress better. Thighter clothes to impress with the physique.

The same thing goes for Sweden and Denmark.

Do you mean working out in fitness as bodybuilding/lifting weights? I didn't know It was particualrly common anywhere outside the US..

Have you traveled much then? There are plenty of countries where bodybuilding/lifting weights is very common and good physicque is basically a necessity to pull decent tail. Just ask Roosh about his Brazil experience...
In the country where I'm from originally (Lithuania) it is very popular to workout. It sucks that in addition to being built, most guys are very tall there albeit not particularly handsome.

[lynoslo]

Interesting post. During the day I would also recommend Bogstadveien at Majorstuen, middle/high end shopping street with tons of beautiful girls. Probably the best "looking" street to go for imo. Same goes for Frognerveien(day), which eventually leads up Solli Plass(high end clubbing/bar area.) Hot girls, big lines and expensive.

Also, clubs like Jaeger (@Grensen 9, Downtown.) and Fugazi (Rozenkrantzgate) have nice girls as well. Tuesdays are particularly good on Fugazi, with tons of students. Also "Blå" close to Grunerløkka(right by the river: Akerselva) tend to have some good nights, especially on their techno/house nights. Loud, but good music, plus trendy people from all social classes.

You can also go to the Oslo University and check out the Pubs there. They are usually cheap and has a lot of students, can't remember the name right now, think it is SV-kjelleren(social science faculty basement). Sometimes Chateu Neuf/Betong(next to Majorstuen Metro-Station) has big events for students. These are actually filled with people(and hot girls), check out: studentersamfundet.no/prog.php?y=2011&type=
Chateu Neuf/Betong is usually best around the start of semesters, where they hold massive gatherings for new students etc.

Good luck, Oslo is an awesome city after some research.

[metalhaze]

from what I've heard from people who've been there, Norway has some of the highest quality of life in the world. very expensive however....
I've met some scandinavian exchange students and I can tell you the swedish and norwegian women "generally speaking" look fly, are tall, know how to dress and are quite fluent in English.

[Derek]

(10-15-2011 02:21 AM)scorpio Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 02:54 PM)Snok Wrote:  

About the good lokking men issue.
I have spent quite much time on the west coast US and Hawaii the last year. To compare men and woman living in those places pluss Norway I would say these factors are the main differences;

-Norwegians are taller
-Norwegians work out a lot more. Cultural thing.
-Norwegians dress better. Thighter clothes to impress with the physique.

The same thing goes for Sweden and Denmark.

That's an interesting characterization there, albeit incorrect and flawed I think. I live on the U.S. West Coast. The Pacific Northwest is overwhelmingly Scandinavian, so you're comparing Norwegians against Norwegians. That makes sense.

Hawaii is overwhelmingly Asian for reasons that are obvious. Comparing California to anywhere is pointless because California is just a mix of so many ethnicities that are impossible to group together.

Pacific northwest? are you sure? I'd believe the most scandinavian influenced area within the US is Upper Midwest , specially minnesota.

[Derek]

(10-15-2011 09:13 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 12:39 AM)Derek Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 02:54 PM)Snok Wrote:  

About the good lokking men issue.
I have spent quite much time on the west coast US and Hawaii the last year. To compare men and woman living in those places pluss Norway I would say these factors are the main differences;

-Norwegians are taller
-Norwegians work out a lot more. Cultural thing.
-Norwegians dress better. Thighter clothes to impress with the physique.

The same thing goes for Sweden and Denmark.

Do you mean working out in fitness as bodybuilding/lifting weights? I didn't know It was particualrly common anywhere outside the US..

Have you traveled much then? There are plenty of countries where bodybuilding/lifting weights is very common and good physicque is basically a necessity to pull decent tail. Just ask Roosh about his Brazil experience...
In the country where I'm from originally (Lithuania) it is very popular to workout. It sucks that in addition to being built, most guys are very tall there albeit not particularly handsome.

Because It's not particlarly common across western europe. It's not frequent to come along french, german, spanish, belgians, dutch, italians who work out, at least not a considerable poll population-wise. In the other hand I've heard about many eastern europeans working out, specially people across the baltics, russia, ukraine and poland.

[el mechanico]

(10-22-2011 12:46 AM)metalhaze Wrote:  

from what I've heard from people who've been there, Norway has some of the highest quality of life in the world. very expensive however....
I've met some scandinavian exchange students and I can tell you the swedish and norwegian women "generally speaking" look fly, are tall, know how to dress and are quite fluent in English.

It's nice for sure and some of the elderly live in retirement castles if the made good money while they are working. I visited plenty while I was there.

One thing I noticed about europe..If you take an american shower (20 min) at someones house they go crazy on your ass.

[Richie]

Hey now,
Going to be in Oslo on the weekend. Anyone have any tips on nightlife? Sometimes you just need to know exactly when and where to go as I don't have time to explore. I heard that Oslo is pretty chilled out compared to other scandi countries but I know they like to party! So where is it at?

[Vicious]

(10-22-2011 11:31 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

One thing I noticed about europe..If you take an american shower (20 min) at someones house they go crazy on your ass.

Huh? I've never experienced this. Can you explain what the perceived problem with this kind of shower is?

[Richie]

(10-31-2011 10:51 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(10-22-2011 11:31 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

One thing I noticed about europe..If you take an american shower (20 min) at someones house they go crazy on your ass.

Huh? I've never experienced this. Can you explain what the perceived problem with this kind of shower is?

You have a shower that lasts 20 minutes... why? What are you doing in there? Not only is it environmentally unfriendly and expensive, it's a bit weird. Stealing all the hot water like that. Tut.

[el mechanico]

(10-31-2011 10:58 AM)Richie Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:51 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(10-22-2011 11:31 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

One thing I noticed about europe..If you take an american shower (20 min) at someones house they go crazy on your ass.

Huh? I've never experienced this. Can you explain what the perceived problem with this kind of shower is?

You have a shower that lasts 20 minutes... why? What are you doing in there? Not only is it environmentally unfriendly and expensive, it's a bit weird. Annoys the hell out of me when someone steals all the hot water.

Are you European? I wake up in the shower and sometimes sleep in there in the morning to wake up. Also I take 3 a day. One to wake up one after work and one after or before sex and sleep. Try that in europe...it freaks people out. I have a big american sized water heater at my house that I just replaced. It's so big that It has cables to support it. The ones I saw in Greece and Norway are about 1/4 the size.

I also noticed that we take way more showers here. In Greece when I would take a shower people would bitch that I just took one the day before.

[Richie]

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(10-31-2011 11:27 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:58 AM)Richie Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:51 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(10-22-2011 11:31 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

One thing I noticed about europe..If you take an american shower (20 min) at someones house they go crazy on your ass.

Huh? I've never experienced this. Can you explain what the perceived problem with this kind of shower is?

You have a shower that lasts 20 minutes... why? What are you doing in there? Not only is it environmentally unfriendly and expensive, it's a bit weird. Annoys the hell out of me when someone steals all the hot water.

Are you European? I wake up in the shower and sometimes sleep in there in the morning to wake up. Also I take 3 a day. One to wake up one after work and one after or before sex and sleep. Try that in europe...it freaks people out. I have a big american sized water heater at my house that I just replaced. It's so big that It has cables to support it. The ones I saw in Greece and Norway are about 1/4 the size.

I also noticed that we take way more showers here. In Greece when I would take a shower people would bitch that I just took one the day before.

Yes Im British. And you are clearly American... I think your cleaning habits are a tad excessive. Have you ever heard of a hosepipe ban? lol.

This has to be the best hijack ever : (

[sheesh]

There's no need to shower 3 times a day in terms of cleanliness imho, it's just a ritual.

It's not just environmental fundamentalists in Europe who want to spoil your time under the shower - when you have to pay your energy bills in Europe, you too are likely to rethink your American habits, electricity and also water supply are much more expensive in Europe, costs for both are up to 3-4 times higher than in the US.

[el mechanico]

(10-31-2011 12:37 PM)sheesh Wrote:  

There's no need to shower 3 times a day in terms of cleanliness imho, it's just a daily ritual.

It's not just environmental fundamentalists in Europe who want to spoil your time under the shower - when you have to pay your energy bills in Europe, you are likely to rethink your American habits, electricity and also water supply are much more expensive in Europe, costs for both are up to 3-4 times higher.

I will start a new thread about this. I am curious. My water bill is about $20 and power $170. But, I leave three tv's on 24-7

[Richie]

Just got back from a cheeky weekend in Oslo. Sirobs data sheet was perfect and he dropped me a few night game spots a well.
I'm not much of a day game artist unless the situation really presents itself, however people are very friendly in general so it's a real breath of fresh air if you have ever dealt with hard nosed Eastern Europeans. The women are hot but I would say on the chunkier side. If you like petite girls I would probably avoid scandinavia altogether but I do like blondes with an ass as well so it suits me fine. Also I would say that whilst the city itself presents a lot of cute girls (like any capital) the streets are not brimming with them. Don't be fooled by all the blonde hair but in general the girls are great.

Everybody speaks fluent English and you could easily mistake the younger girls for Americans or English depending on what accent they have picked up. What is so curious to me, and also the best part about scandinavia in general is you still have foreign status. Girls are very eager to know where you are from and what you are doing in their country.
So in short… I got 2 lays in 3 days. I would have scored a hat-trick but the first girl i picked up "was not prepared" i.e…. she probably had a hairy growler.
Club game can be very hit and miss. There could only be a handful of cute girls in any one venue and you can guarantee the hottest ones will already have 2 or 3 guys all up in their face. Norwegian guys have plenty of game and are extremely aggressive with the local women. I saw on many occasions men just grabbing girls by the arm as they walked by. I won't compete with that shit so it can be frustrating if your game is more laid back like mine.
On every occasion I opened a women, within 10 minutes she would enquire about my lodgings and a nightcap. No game required what so ever. Id say the majority of these chicks are DTF. I can honestly say I had a girl back at my place within 30 minutes of meeting her. Fucking within the hour, and back out the door before my head even hit the pillow. It seems the pump and dump culture is pretty much a way of life here. I don't think there is as much of a stigma attached to ONS's here since they had no qualms about just leaving after the deed was done. Something I took offence to the first time but when it happened again I figured that just the way they do things round here. I felt used and abused which was awesome.

Im intrigued about the possibilities Oslo has to offer long term. But there is one major obstacle. It costs a fucking shit load.

[Ami5]

Sweden vs Norway vs Baltics? Which one you'd rate better?

[Luckystar]

(10-10-2011 04:17 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Ill be upfront about Oslo. The chicks are hot, feminine (best among the scandi countries) and more than eager to talk with you if you are a foreigner. The city itself is a cool combo of urban living and nature getaways. The only thing which in my opinion seriously impedes long term living in Oslo are the prices. It is extremely difficult to swallow the fact that the normal beer you had set you back by around 12 CHF. Living in a hostel in a dorm bed? Be prepared to cough up 50 Euros minimum. Hotels will be even more expensive. The food is good but again terribly expensive.

Ill break down the data sheet into 2 parts as per my usual style. Day game and Night game. Both have their plus points and as a discerning playboy you should find out as to which suits your style most.

Day Game:
I highly recommend day game in Oslo. Its odd that the norwegians are direct descendants of the vikings, because pretty much NO ONE does day game here. And when I mean no one, I literally mean that. However, I can sort of understand why day game is not done here. Norwegian girls are quite forward sexually and getting a hook up at night can be done with a little amount of effort. However thats mainly because most of the Norwegian guys are good looking. If you are average looking or short, then night game is well nigh difficult to execute here.

Therefore, if you are a average looking, (relatively short) guy, day game is the best bet to get laid.

One more point about day game. In Norway, go the direct day game route. The girls here get confused when you attempt to open them with an indirect opener and then ramble away for 5-10 minutes. I committed this mistake on atleast 7-8 occasions and the girls soon lost interest and went away. However when I began going direct, my success rate of closing (phone numbers/FB contacts) jumped up dramatically. After that I was always opening up women directly. Nothing overtly sexual, but just genuine compliments on their looks, dressing and walking style. The women respond very well to direct day game and love the fact that someone has the balls to come up to them in the middle of the street and compliment them.

An additional point to consider when opening directly over here is to talk slowly, calmly while maintaining rock solid body language. Don't talk too fast or too excitedly as that is considered to be socially inept nature and a sign of weakness in Norway. Norwegians are very direct while talking with you, usually to the point of being blunt. Quite a few girls outrightly told me that they were not interested because I was not their type and walked away. It does feel a bit weird at first but you soon get used to it.

Also, no cocky funny humor unless the girl is being an absolute bitch. Mild teasing goes a long long way over here.

Day game venues:
Karl Johann Gate: The main street in Oslo and bang opposite the central train station. You could day game here all day long and still be opening high quality sets. The street is busy at all times of the day, but the ideal time to day game here is from 4 pm to 6 pm when most girls stop by at the numerous shops for a quick shopping tour before going home. On a Friday, any time after 3 pm is good. Avoid this place in the evening as it becomes a haven for shady characters and clueless tourists. There are a number of English pubs (The scotsman, winstons) and cafes lining the street, and these are ideal locations for an insta date. There is also a park at the end of this street and this is usually filled with girls sunning themselves. The trouble is that getting the sun is as rare as the Vatican City winning the world cup. However the park is also normally host to a multitude of events, exhibitions and festivals so there are plenty of 'smart' chicks hanging around. The weekend I went, it was the Oslo book festival and the book tents were crowded at all times. There is a big shopping store called Vero Moda on this street and it is filled with hot ass, especially on weekends.

Hot Tip: Avoid Hard Rock cafe like the plague. This cafe is overrun by American tourists and it is positively the worst place to meet locals.

Akers Brygge: This is a huge shopping mall on the waterfront around 15 minutes walk from Karl Johan gate. The best thing about this shopping mall is that it is right next door to a street which has tonnes of restaurants, so people shop here and then hit the restaurants straight away. The mall itself is quite unremarkable in that it is not super big like some of the shopping malls you see in Dubai or even the US. However there is just so much hot ass walking around here that it is impossible to not find quality targets. There are also a couple of cafes here and they can be used for insta dates.

One more plus point about Akers Brygge is that it is literally bang opposite the disembarkation point for all the ferries leaving Oslo, so you will see many hot local chicks hanging around the area while waiting to catch their ferry to one of the islands which are near Oslo. Although I did not get much success, I can imagine that it is possible to chat up the girls, get the digits and then invite them for an evening out. Since most of the ferries stop running late night, I think its safe to say that if an island girl agrees to come out late evening, shes down for the bang.

Stranden: This is the restaurants street right next to Akers Brygge. Great spot to day game and the churn usually means that you can be talking to several high quality targets in a relatively short period of time. The area right next to TGI Fridays is perpetually crowded and you can hit on girls coming out of here all day long. Plus, Stranden is quite close to a nearby block of recently constructed apartments which are on the high end side. This means that there are quite a few 'rich' girls taking walks along this street or walking their dogs. Since most of the restaurants here are non smoking you will also have the smoking chicks come out for a quick smoke before going back inside. One of the best times to hit up Stranden is early evening (around 6pm - 7.30 pm) when there are tonnes of hot chicks walking into or waiting outside restaurants. The only drawback is that they are usually in groups and therefore having a wing is great.

Grunerlokka: This is the cool area of Oslo where all the local students hang out. It is around 10 minutes by tram from the Oslo central station and is quite similar to the Kazimierz area of Krakow. Best time to come here would be early in the evening when most of the locals stop by for a quick drink before heading home. This place is also good to frequent around lunch time because the prices here are relatively low and many students come here for a bite. The main street here is Thorvald Meyers Gate. Just dont expect tons of hot ass girls to be walking around and you will be good.


Cafe Sør: which is very near Youngstorget and the central station. Absolutely dope spot for insta date and coffee shop game. Add in the fact that it has great food and free wi-fi and this makes it even more of a magnet. The best thing about this place is that it is cosy and yet private. Therefore approaching someone feels very natural. There are some dark cosy spots which are ideal for escalating. Sor is a cafe during the day and more of a pub during the evening, but I really like the place..cool people, nice drinks, good ambiance.

Oslo University College/Royal Palace Park area: This is one of the colleges in Oslo and possibly the only one to be located bang in the city center. It is also adjacent to the royal palace park. As a result on a bright sunny day you will see many young hotties sunning themselves on the lush verdant greens. The weekend on which I went was quite warm during the day time and hence I saw quite a young good looking crowd here. Just keep in mind that this is different from Oslo University which is located a bit outside the city center.

Thats all about the various day game options in Oslo. In my opinion, day game is really the way to go about getting a lay in this city. However day game and more specifically street game has a very short lifespan in terms of actually being a viable option. I went to Oslo around 15th september and the temp was already hovering around 10 degrees. If you still want to go ahead and do street game, help yourself, but also get ready for your nuts to fall off in the freezing cold.

However for the 2-3 months when street game is still possible, it IS by far the best option in Oslo.

Next post will be on the night game spots and also why I dont think that Night game is the way to go in Oslo.

Sirob, you deliver great data sheets. Great insight.

[Sirob]

Hey Richie,

Glad you had a great time in Oslo. If it weren't for the prices and the weather, I'd be hitting up that place quite often.

Bust out a data sheet dude, of what worked for you and what did not. Also the places where you went and where you found maximum success.

Btw did you experience any cockblocking by the Norwegian guys?

(11-06-2011 06:44 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Just got back from a cheeky weekend in Oslo. Sirobs data sheet was perfect and he dropped me a few night game spots a well.
I'm not much of a day game artist unless the situation really presents itself, however people are very friendly in general so it's a real breath of fresh air if you have ever dealt with hard nosed Eastern Europeans. The women are hot but I would say on the chunkier side. If you like petite girls I would probably avoid scandinavia altogether but I do like blondes with an ass as well so it suits me fine. Also I would say that whilst the city itself presents a lot of cute girls (like any capital) the streets are not brimming with them. Don't be fooled by all the blonde hair but in general the girls are great.

Everybody speaks fluent English and you could easily mistake the younger girls for Americans or English depending on what accent they have picked up. What is so curious to me, and also the best part about scandinavia in general is you still have foreign status. Girls are very eager to know where you are from and what you are doing in their country.
So in short… I got 2 lays in 3 days. I would have scored a hat-trick but the first girl i picked up "was not prepared" i.e…. she probably had a hairy growler.
Club game can be very hit and miss. There could only be a handful of cute girls in any one venue and you can guarantee the hottest ones will already have 2 or 3 guys all up in their face. Norwegian guys have plenty of game and are extremely aggressive with the local women. I saw on many occasions men just grabbing girls by the arm as they walked by. I won't compete with that shit so it can be frustrating if your game is more laid back like mine.
On every occasion I opened a women, within 10 minutes she would enquire about my lodgings and a nightcap. No game required what so ever. Id say the majority of these chicks are DTF. I can honestly say I had a girl back at my place within 30 minutes of meeting her. Fucking within the hour, and back out the door before my head even hit the pillow. It seems the pump and dump culture is pretty much a way of life here. I don't think there is as much of a stigma attached to ONS's here since they had no qualms about just leaving after the deed was done. Something I took offence to the first time but when it happened again I figured that just the way they do things round here. I felt used and abused which was awesome.

Im intrigued about the possibilities Oslo has to offer long term. But there is one major obstacle. It costs a fucking shit load.

[Sirob]

Thanks LS.

The one thing I am really looking forward to is hitting up some of the goldmines (EE or Scandinavia) with forum veterans or even hosting someone here in Basel to test the local waters.

Would be a great learning experience.

(11-06-2011 08:45 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(10-10-2011 04:17 PM)Sirob Wrote:  

Sirob, you deliver great data sheets. Great insight.

Particularly about how great day game is in Scandinavia. And, how direct game is the way to go. Both are my strengths and a big reason why Sweden was enjoyable for me.

[MiXX]

(10-31-2011 11:27 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

In Greece when I would take a shower people would bitch that I just took one the day before.

Are you serious dude?

Note to self: do not have sex with a greek girl when it's 90 degrees outside......chances are her cucci smells like burnt bacon bits!

Mixx

[el mechanico]

(11-07-2011 10:24 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 11:27 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

In Greece when I would take a shower people would bitch that I just took one the day before.

Are you serious dude?

Note to self: do not have sex with a greek girl when it's 90 degrees outside......chances are her cucci smells like burnt bacon bits!

Mixx

Dead serious. Go there and ride the bus in the summer and tell me what you think.
The way around it is to be near the ocean and throw them in once in a while.

[MiXX]

(11-06-2011 06:44 AM)Richie Wrote:  

So in short… I got 2 lays in 3 days.

Holy smoke! Those are better stats than Colombia or Brazil for someone who is not from the country and does not have any local friends or social circle to plug them into the hot girls.

If you were to go to Colombia for 3 days (and you never been there before), you'd have to strictly rely on hookers to get laid. Normal girls require social proof, and at least 3 days to get laid if you do not know anyone, do not speak the language, and do not have friends in common.

Mixx

[Richie]

Exactly right MIxx. Im a good looking guy but I suffered in Brazil and Argentina and knocked my confidence a bit. All the hype on this forum about hot south Americans throwing themselves at Western guys is absolute bullshit.
All I have to do now is hop over the pond to my fellow europeans for easy lays and happy days.

(11-07-2011 10:30 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 06:44 AM)Richie Wrote:  

So in short… I got 2 lays in 3 days.

Holy smoke! Those are better stats than Colombia or Brazil for someone who is not from the country and does not have any local friends or social circle to plug them into the hot girls.

If you were to go to Colombia for 3 days (and you never been there before), you'd have to strictly rely on hookers to get laid. Normal girls require social proof, and at least 3 days to get laid if you do not know anyone, do not speak the language, and do not have friends in common.

Mixx

[el mechanico]

(11-07-2011 10:30 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-06-2011 06:44 AM)Richie Wrote:  

So in short… I got 2 lays in 3 days.

Holy smoke! Those are better stats than Colombia or Brazil for someone who is not from the country and does not have any local friends or social circle to plug them into the hot girls.

If you were to go to Colombia for 3 days (and you never been there before), you'd have to strictly rely on hookers to get laid. Normal girls require social proof, and at least 3 days to get laid if you do not know anyone, do not speak the language, and do not have friends in common.

Mixx

Mixx go there. If you don't drink the cost won't kill you as bad.
You will probably make your own food because theirs sucks so bad.

You WILL pull like mad. Trust me.

[MiXX]

(11-07-2011 10:35 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Mixx go there. If you don't drink the cost won't kill you as bad.
You will probably make your own food because theirs sucks so bad.

You WILL pull like mad. Trust me.

I'll trust you on this one. I'm including a 3 week tour on my way to Poland March 2012.

Mixx

[el mechanico]

Do you like gaming girls in line before the club opens? Can you dance better than Norwegian dudes? It's over!
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