Quote: (02-01-2019 12:58 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:
I liked your post... and Man oh Man I'm sure you got more cool A$$ stories in the vault... but you being White is completely irrelevant on this one!
1. If the employee was a N***a... he might have shot his A$$ with no regards... keep that in perspective!
2. Your Ex-Boss was definitely in the wrong with the paycheck thing... but if his Business is located in a very Bad part of town ==> then it's probably a front for Dirty $$$... and since he might be about that Life ==> he won't give a fuck about ANYBODY!
I've said it earlier in my other post from this thread: Yes the Culture/Gender war is Real... but some of y'all need to Chill with your conclusions!
You used to be #1
But now you're #2 wayyy behind White Women
Despite everything going on... you're still #2...
Wayyy above every single group of Men on average.
If you're getting treated like Dog Shit...
It most likely would have been wayyy worse for any other group of Men!
Liked your Post... but just Keepin It Real!
I edited the white part out because I knew someone would say that. I wasn't fast enough though. Since you did catch it, I'll expound on it.
It's not a contest for the crappiest life award and I'm not trying to claim that I have it worse than all the members of some other ethnicity whether I do or not because who cares. Someone somewhere always has it worse. If you have asthma, someone else has lung cancer. I'm only stating the facts of what happened, not seeking perpetual victimhood status. Being a victim sucks and I'd rather not be one if I can avoid it.
However, as long as we're keeping it real, I do know that, if I had been a black guy and I had been worked without pay by my white boss in his all-white business (with the exception of me), I could create a media hellstorm in which the word "slavery" would be mentioned at least three dozen times a day on every mainstream news station and a million dollar lawsuit even if my being black was not the cause of my problems. As I am white and the rest of the people involved were black (including the DOL employees and the police by the way) , there is no way that such a thing would have been possible with my story.
If we're still keeping it real, we also know that a lot of black and hispanic guys have it worse than a lot of white guys but the reason they have it worse are not because there is legal discrimination against them or that the majority of society is in favor of taking from them to give to whitey. That is however exactly the situation for white guys whether they are screwups or not. Let's also not pretend that black and hispanic guys don't get more sympathy and help when things don't go their way. How many scholarships, affirmative action laws, and government assistance programs do we need to get people to stop shooting, robbing, and raping their own neighbors? When are we going to stop saying stuff like "the ethnicity of the attacker is unknown." How many black on white hate crimes are going to occur before they start being legally recognized as such? At what point are we all forced to admit that maybe it's the individual's fault and it is not the result of systemic oppression because he is somehow so important that every white guy in the country is happy to go out of their way to create, run, and conceal a shadowy conspiracy just in order to oppress little ol' him?
I think black adults are human adults. I will not rob them of their agency and humanity by apologizing on their behalf and pretending that they are too stupid and irredeemable to possibly ever be expected to live up to the same standard that I am expected to hold myself and other people who look like me to.
That is what I meant by that bit before I edited it out but you caught it before I could delete it.
Again, my aim is not to disparage black people and, if I really had anything against them, life in Atlanta would be even more difficult and complicated. Being a racist just would not be pragmatic.
I am only stating facts. Black guys and guys of other ethnic backgrounds have their own issues that they face and those issues are surely real. White guy issues are real too though (evidenced by the suicide rate) and the things I've mentioned here are among them.
Again though, it's not a victimhood contest, only my experience.
*In your first point, do you mean that my coworker could have shot the guy who robbed him? I might have thought the same except that there were no guns in the shop at that time. The guns under the counter were added after the robbery.
*On your second point, I think you are probably right about that store being a money laundering thing. My supervisor (the meth lady) kept telling me "you don't know the whole story!" whenever I told her that I needed to get paid because I can't just tell my landlord that my boss didn't pay me. She refused at every point to elaborate on what she meant though which was suspicious. So yea, I can't confirm that he was laundering money but that situation had all the familiar symptoms of a front. After my dad looked up a profile Biz had online, he actually asked me not to pursue the case with the authorities because he didn't want me to be murdered or for him to have his house shot up or something.
*As for your third point, I tend to try and avoid race as being the conclusion for anything until all other possibilities have been exhausted. Especially as a white guy, the mere suggestion that race might be a factor in a problem at all, much less the primary or sole factor, is on some level terrifying to make and would legitimately get me fired, expelled, or something elsed if I were in any position to have any of those things happen to me. So it is an issue that I and most other white guys genuinely want to avoid if at all possible. However, sometimes it is no longer possible to avoid or ignore it because other people won't let you and they won't just piss off and leave you alone or hold up their end of the equality deal.
*Since childhood, I have been having to hear and feel guilty about other races of guys being treated badly by whites in the distant and hazy past of bygone eras that came and went decades before I was born. So I find it less than encouraging that, whenever I see or hear a white guy bring up white guy problems, the first reaction tends to be to disregard them and state something along the lines of "you were #1 and now you're #2" while claiming that someone else somewhere has it worse somehow and therefor your problems don't matter. That's the same logic as saying to a favela-dwelling black guy in Rio, dodging bullets on his way to school every day, that his problems don't matter and he should just suck it up because Amerindians in the jungle 1000 miles away don't even have electricity. In fact, he should be grateful that things are as good for him as they are. That kind of condescension could only ever breed resentment and I could understand if the black guy started resenting someone who disregarded and talked down to him like that.
This proves my point about the fact that, if you are a white guy, nobody will ever care about you. Also, I don't know who this "you" and "we" are. I wasn't around in the 1960s. All that I know is 1992 and after. If somebody has a chip on their shoulder about something that happened before either I or they were born and they decide to take it out on me because I'm white, they are being a racist dirtbag and they deserve to get beat down, though I won't do it because I don't want to be charged with a hate crime (something that we both know most likely wouldn't happen to a black guy if he beat me up).
I think you are from Canada but I'm fairly certain that all of this holds true there as well even though the element of physical danger and violence is generally not as pronounced in Canada as it is in the US and nor is the historical animosity as (regrettably) fierce as it is in the US.
There are even whole religions in the US, which have widespread influence, constructed around hating white people such as the Nation of Islam and the Five Percent Nation, both of which teach (
and you can look this up) that white people are literally the root of all evil in the world on both a material and cosmic level. The Nation of Islam alone has 50,000 members and that's not counting everyone who has relatives and friends involved but isn't directly involved themselves. Unfortunately, this stupidity runs deep and it has infected every part of society.
I was actually dating a black girl in Colombia a couple of months ago and we went to a museum in town where one of the exhibits was about a mission project in another city being conducted by the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan. I told her about what that organization is and showed her the Wikipedia page in Spanish. We both had a good laugh about it. Colombia generally seems to be less hung up on race than the US which I personally like. I hate having to hear about it all the time in the US and having it force its way into every aspect of my life like a psychic stalker.
One of the things I dislike very much about the race pimping in the US is that, if I ever marry and have kids with a non-white woman (which, given my personal history, is very likely), I would have to endure my kids being constantly bombarded with messages from every direction telling them that they need to pick a side and resent me and my side of the family because we are oppressing them, their mother, and her side of the family. That's not something I am willing to accept and is one more reason I have chosen to leave the country for good. I alone can't fix the environment and I don't want to be submerged in venom for the rest of my life so I have deemed the best course of action to be expatriation. Put simply, it's not a hill I care enough about to die on, it's not a battle that I want to fight until I die, and it is not a cause I want to sacrifice my future children to. I'm just leaving.
Anyway, I'm rambling now. Thanks for the feedback. We don't have to agree on everything to get along. We're both here which means we agree on at least some important things. And yea, I've got stories for days man. If I have nothing else, I at least have that. If you can't have an easy life, you can at least have an interesting one.