[Jack Gignac]

Anyone else get this? Where you see a girl or two that are very slutty looking ie. booty shorts hiking up their ass, no bra with protruding tits, pumped up fuck me lips, high heels tight tights black dress but when you engage them they're bitch and unreceptive?

i'm not rude or awkward either in these cases. I usually do this with social momentum too.

anyone understand the psychology of this?

it's strange how a lot of times the less exually unassuming women are actually more receptive for the sex.

it's not even that these girls are sexually repressed you know the probably do some fucked up shit like threesomes/anal/etc.

My theory = a lot of these girls weaponize their sexuality and are misandrists. I remember reading Jenna Jamesons autobiography that working as a stripper she grew to hate men.

Second theory = these girls are in a top tier city. top tier race. top tier looks. so for them anything short of NBA player hitting on them they perceive as an insult - like who the fuck do you think you are and they're so spoiled that they haven't the need to look at it from another persons perspective as society will always give them what they want.

Some of my rudest rejections I've ever gotten are from these kind of girls. Where it's like 'hi' and their very cutting and quick to dismiss or even make a scene.

Had this happen this saturday and last saturday by two seemingly similar groups. Two set daygame - they seemed like girls that are in night club industry - in fact one for a fact that I met today I knew worked in the night club industry.

I'm not even a bitch, I have good game and step right and look pretty cool. I also think these girls are more into black guys by their dress. They have that hot but semi-ratchet vibe. White blondes with big nice asses (which I personally love but I struggle with this girl of this ilk)

slightly traumatic some of these girls. though I don't want to become a bitch a be scared to approach more stunners.

[Jack Gignac]

One of my pickup buddies was saying that the lacked a father figure in their life to teach them that they're more than just their bodies and date guys that are just as emotionally fucked up as them.

In addition underneath it all they are just shitty people with no morals.

[ADEBISIGARANA]

Is you a captain save ho..??..???

[Cobra]

(07-21-2018 08:55 PM)ADEBISIGARANA Wrote:  

Is you a captain save ho..??..???

[Jack Gignac]

(07-21-2018 08:55 PM)ADEBISIGARANA Wrote:  

Is you a captain save ho..??..???

naw dawg. but these girls are often sexy as fuck. just confused on why they show off the goods so hard and then simultaneously curb guys so disrespectfully. seems illogical. but then again, when are women ever logical.

[CleanSlate]

I don't think the OP is trolling because I've seen the same thing. I can count several times when I approached hot girls in the club, and they looked at me with disdain even before the first word comes out of my mouth.

I think they're just seeking attention and getting kicks out of rejecting men. But even before you approach, you can kinda tell their intentions. If they're carrying a haughty attitude and giving off an unapproachable vibe despite the way they dress, I'd pretty much write them off entirely and look for more receptive girls.

But this always happens in a noisy nightclub, but never elsewhere. If you can catch them elsewhere, they might be much more open to your approach.

[Donfitz007]

As a guy who was a simp/beta/damn near cuck for multiple women who fit this description, I can explain it to you

These women have NOTHING to offer besides their bodies. In 2018 most women can't cook, clean, or even be feminine. Their ONLY clutch is their ability to have great sex. These women know that they are powerless. Even the sexy college graduates secretly feel their looks are the only reason they passed. They think that the professor might have given them an edge or they got a job because of their looks.

So these women go out seeking attention, they know they have the power to reject men or withhold sex. It's like a superpower to them. They'll make every excuse in the book to justify it.

From my understanding (back in my feminist days 2009-2012) the main reason women hate the idea of slut-shaming is because being a slut and having power over their sexuality is the only power they really have. Like a rebellious child, they do things simply because they can and because they want to



So everything i said above is straight from the horse's mouth pretty much but here's my theory

The club scene and hell even the average world is a place of high competition. Women want all the attention because that attention could bring the highest quality mates. IF a girl goes out her way to look great and an average guy gives her a compliment then she feels that compliment is almost as bad as an insult.

[Gotti]

They are hot so they get approached all the time. They are waiting for the guy they want to approach them. It probably isn’t you. They are very selective because they have many options.

I’m still trying to figure out how to game these girls. My conclusion thus far is you need to be a 10 yourself in terms of looks, style, money, etc. These type of girls aren’t going to be won over by a slick opener or convo because they’ve already dismissed you as an option before you even open your mouth.

[Captain Gh]

Well I think your example with Jenna is Bang On! These girl get dick from the men who provide them with somethin (Dope, Pills, etc) And the rest of the time, they just dress sexy to wear their power on them, and have a kick @ rejecting men left & right. Best to stay away from these girl... but that easier said than done!

[Pointer]

Mystery mentioned how to get these girls long time ago. Just how they go over the top with their skimpy outfits you have to do the same. Wear some weird, crazy shit and just stand out from everyone else.
Anyway, I don't see why you cannot take a "normal" girl, dress her up in a sexy outfit, throw 10 pounds of make-up on her then take her out on a stroll through the city. Why would you want a super promiscuous woman with a high risk of STD, mental issues from all the dick she gets since puberty, most likely problematic childhood and a powder keg of MeToo ? You'd think that a guy who reads this forum and work on himself to perfection would aim for more than trashy sluts.

[Brother Abdul Majeed]

I am sure that some women just tart themselves up out of force of habit. Most of the clothes they own are immodest and the only way they know how to apply makeup is as if they were going clubbing.

[Jack Gignac]

I find it very unusual. Similar phenomena is girls on tinder who are wearing fucking thongs on their first photo but in their bio it says 'no hook up.

They're advertising sex and their bodies but aren't selling it? Seems like one of the most schizophrenic behaviours I've ever seen. Incongruency.

This is not even a big deal as many feminists will argue = you're not entitled. Of course, sure I'm not entitled to sex but you'd think if you're throwing it in my face you'd at least be civil about the rejection rather than exploding like a child. Compassion is a two way street.

[TheFinalEpic]

Bro, do you even Instagram?

This shit is commonplace, it's a real life thirst trap. These girls don't want to fuck, they just want you to look and tell them how great they are, it gives them a much better dopamine hit.

[Jack Gignac]

(07-22-2018 12:55 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

Bro, do you even Instagram?

This shit is commonplace, it's a real life thirst trap. These girls don't want to fuck, they just want you to look and tell them how great they are, it gives them a much better dopamine hit.

yeah I use IG. I know the behaviour just seems redic. I notice the guys who see this the most are from Canada on this thread like me.
Canadian phenomena? 4 Canadians on this thread haha. possibly more.

thirst trap
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p...rst%20Trap

[Batman_]

Most women in this category have nothing else going for them besides their looks and all they want is validation and attention so they can justify their shit existence.

I was with a girl last night who probably meets this criteria. She was complaining that men don't hit on her or compliment her enough. She was even bitching about not getting cat-called. I got her to admit though that she actually has plenty of male attention, just not from the "top tiered" men that she wants, which is of course the real issue for them.

It's simply a sense of entitlement. Most of these women have no intellectual pursuits or interesting hobbies or goals, so literally all they do is make themselves look sexy and wait around while judging men and hoping that the perfect man will sweep them off their feet while regarding any men not up to their standards to be insulting.

[Supreme4ever]

Just be top tier in game and I truly believe you can bang away. Girls want to live the fantasy romantic lifestyle so act as if just long enough to accomplish the mission. Ben Aflleck mention in Boiler Room movie::: act as if you had whatever it takes to succeed.

[Jack Gignac]

(07-22-2018 01:28 PM)Supreme4ever Wrote:  

Just be top tier in game and I truly believe you can bang away. Girls want to live the fantasy romantic lifestyle so act as if just long enough to accomplish the mission. Ben Aflleck mention in Boiler Room movie::: act as if you had whatever it takes to succeed.

problem is women's attraction is often very arbitrary. Olivier Giroud is a french soccer player and I've had girls say that he looks gross even though he's clearly rich, goodlooking, etc. etc.

so simple answer 'be elite' is not enough nor can everyone be elite even if they tired haha.

[Zoso]

When a slutty girl is not receptive, I assume that she is saying 'you are not too alpha-attitude/badass/intimidating/kind of'...

It's like when they receive compliments. Only those who come from those who generate more attraction are welcome.

Solution: use more aggressive game (not just seeming) and that they know that you ARE aggressive.

[torridon747]

@jack

Do you honestly believe that these broke thots wouldn't beg to get dicked down and pampered by a famous high status man for 1 day, ideally forever. Don't listen to what those hoes say watch what they do. They're jusy virtue signalling (good girl interested in personality instead of money) or pre-emptively shutting something down because they know they're too pathetic to ever match up in terms of value.

Attraction isn't arbitrary there are a lot of measurable values that go into it. Evidence is all over this forum. Guys like wide hips big breasts and youthful features. Have those and 99% of men will find a female attractive, even though some may not admit it. Why do you think females are any different,? It's just physicality plays a smaller roll than in their male counterparts.

[Jack Gignac]

(07-22-2018 06:13 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

@jack

Do you honestly believe that these broke thots wouldn't beg to get dicked down and pampered by a famous high status man for 1 day, ideally forever. Don't listen to what those hoes say watch what they do. They're jusy virtue signalling (good girl interested in personality instead of money) or pre-emptively shutting something down because they know they're too pathetic to ever match up in terms of value.

Attraction isn't arbitrary there are a lot of measurable values that go into it. Evidence is all over this forum. Guys like wide hips big breasts and youthful features. Have those and 99% of men will find a female attractive, even though some may not admit it. Why do you think females are any different,? It's just physicality plays a smaller roll than in their male counterparts.

I disagree. I think women's attraction is not as simple as mens attraction and that a lot of it is arbitrary and pending on their mood and other bullshit.

Of course there are factors that spike things = height / status / charm etc.

[torridon747]

It isn't but there are clear measurable influences. It's not arbitrary like you're saying.

Saying it's arbitrary postures for magical thinking, disney shit. "Soul mates". Those things don't exist.

[Skank_Hunt]

Yeah I find these bitchy looking girls highly unpleasant and low yield as well. They are so hot that they are getting their needs met from somewhere, so they are not thirsty, and as mentioned above, unless you are famous, rich, athlete, singer, rapper, top 0.1%, or (more in EE but still in WE and the US) simply offer them money or an expensive trip to an exotic destination, you can work on your "SMV" all you like, and actually be quite "high value" compared to 99% of men, but you can still get flat out ignored and/or harshly rejected by some of these girls. Others just reject by ignoring you as if you literally don't exist. Secretly inside they get a kick out of that, at the same time as being annoyed.

[Beirut]

^ They’re my favorite. I met this gorgeous one in Vilnius the other day who was giving me the number of a Lebanese club owner that I should meet. I ask for hers too and she looks down at me like “you little shit are you serious right now”.

I still get a boner thinking about it. Sliding in her dms as we speak

[Donfitz007]

Im just curious as to why OP got banned lol

[subterfuge]

If anyone ever find out the answer i'd be happy to know!
I feel like 99% of hot UK girls are like this. Super hot, but just rude and conceited but you still bandly want to bang them because they are perfect looking
I get the 'look of contempt' and then ignored on a HUGE percentage of my approaches no matter how I open. I've experimented like a mad man.
Everything from mystery method negs on the open (Does NOT work like how he says it does lol) to opinion openers to humour openers to direct etc etc.
It feels like with most hot girls (especially here) if you do not meet her physical type, then there's really nothing you can say or do to change their mind