Quote: (04-26-2018 08:10 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:
Quote: (04-26-2018 06:41 PM)HankMoody Wrote:
Also, three dates is virtually a guaranteed bang, and usually a long term FWB (or LTR if you want that).
This raises a good point. It was known back in the Mystery pua era that rushing things can lead to 'buyer's remorse': If you sleep with her too quickly, she may feel like a slut and associate those feelings of shame with you, making it harder to get the second bang or convert her into a FWB. This is something I've experienced myself: girls who I bang on the first date rarely want to see me again, while second or third date bangs are easier to convert to FWB arrangements. I think it's probably more of an issue for guys who rely on game more than physical attractiveness.
Personally, I think FWBs are better than one night stands. Being able to bang the same girl many times makes the experience far superior. You generally develop a greater degree of affection for each other, and this greatly improves the quality of the interaction. Because you're uncommitted, you can still satiate your desire for variety on the side (although I'm personally too lazy for this).
That said, I don't think three dates is necessary for most people: two dates is the sweet spot for me. (first date: coffee or ice cream; second date: drinks or dinner). It may be necessary for Hank given his particular combination of game, SMV and target demographic.
Women buyers remorse can happen on date zero, 1st, 2d, 3d...or 10th.
It happens basically because of three factors:
1 - The sex was not good.
No matter what happened before, the sex has to be great. If the guy is inexperienced, he should go get some experience for bad sex wont happen again... Or if the intake of alcohol was too big, he should make sure to have a Viagra at hand.
The first bang is the one that she (and he) will always remember. You have to fuck her like it's the last day on earth. Cheat, take sexual enhancers, sacrifice a bit of your pleasure, whatever, just make sure she orgasms a lot.
2 - The guy gets cold after busting a nut.
Many guys de-humanize girls after sex. The job was done, the goal was accomplished, so now lets call you an uber and get your ass out of my crib...
There is nothing wrong in letting her crash in your bed after sex, sleep by your side, bang some more in the morning, you then make a basic breakfast, drive her home, kiss her goodbye, wish her a nice day, and wait until she enters her building/house until you ride off. This done all naturally. not like the next factor...
3 - Guy gets clingy/needy after sex.
Many guys tend to "fall in love" after banging a girl better than what they are used to, start craving for or giving her too much attention, messaging her all the time, etc... In sum, loosing frame.
Well, he has to be the same guy that was before the sex happened. It was not a "magical moment" that changed totally the scope of the relationship, was a natural encounter between two human beings who fancied each other on that moment, nothing more than that.