Quote: (04-20-2018 01:26 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:
You read these articles about a huge female shortage all the time, but foreigners seem to do okay in China if they're willing to put the work in, which would seem to argue against the demographic doom scenario.
First of all, most foreigners date down in China. I feel bad when I see the girls most guys are with. The Western guys who date up are the exception. Secondly, most guys who date up, do so by exploiting a very special niche: girls who are hot, but plain by Chinese standards for reasons that are a combinations of ridiculous and retarded.
Third, foreign guys who are doing well in China have super tight game. I do not, but compared to your typical Western guy who shows up here, my game is elite by Western guy in Chinese standards, because even a lot of guys who arrive fresh off the airplane who had great game and got laid a lot back home spend months here making adjustments to the local market.
Most of it is due to mental blocks that once overcome are easy fixes, but there's a lot to know if you are going to kill it here. Learning Chinese, for example, is a major tool that is going to be extremely useful, even if the girls you are dating speak great English.
Most Western guys here don't do well here because they have game...they do it by signing on as a long term boyfriend/husband, which works for all parties involved (until it doesn't), because beta provider game is actually competitive here.
Even then, relying on nothing other than plain old beta provider game, you average Western guy has super awesome game compared to your average Western guy. The only way you could have worse game than most of these guys is if you are from an Indian village (dot not feather).
These guys are walking incarnations of everything that makes pussies dry up. It's not their fault -- it's the culture and economic conditions they were raised in, but overcoming it for 99% of them is not on the horizon and doing so for most would require being a cruel backstabbing asshole who crawled his way to the top with a combination of corruption, immoral actions and just generally being a total scumbag to everyone he met along the way.
If you are a Western guy who has any level of game in China and you've even slightly adjusted to the local environment, you're already in the top 5% of most attractive men nationwide and at least in top 15% in a major city. Sure, maybe not for the marriage marketplace, but when a girl is looking for a sexy adventure, she could definitely do worse and is more than willing to take your dick.
If you speak Chinese, dress well and have tight localized game, you're probably in the top 3% most desirable men for a hookup, even in a major city. Sure, you're not going to be able to compete with the really rich guys with game, but there's not that many guys in China with that type of situation, even in a city like Beijing and most aren't young either.
As with anywhere in Asia, there is a pool of foreign groupies you pretty much exclusively take foreign dick and this pool is always larger than the number of foreign men with enough game to be relevant.