[Leonard D Neubache]

An honest opinion from anyone in the MSM on the film would look like this:

"I refuse to write a review on a movie as highly politicised as this, because even if it were honestly good then a review which said as such would still appear to be pandering, while even if the film were trash, a honest but negative review would end my career. I look forward to the day when movies can just be movies, but until the act of reviewing certain movies can be disentangled with politics then it's a pointless gesture at best and and a dangerous mistake at worst."

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-19-2018 08:17 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

As much as this is a laughable piece of shit I have to give them credit for at least trying. It's the same way I feel about Bollywood...there's nothing more unappealing to me from an aesthetic, cultural, and artistic level than seeing a bunch of IRTs singing and dancing on one leg shaking their head back and forth. However, I do give Indians credit for putting together something original based on their culture which is undeniably profitable.

Going forward more countries should have the ambition to form their own entertainment media. The more media you have the more it detracts from Hollywood's cultural and global hegemony. Some people would make the claim that Hollywood movies adds to U.S. soft power worldwide but i'd argue that it does far more damage culturally speaking by spreading global homo/feminist/corporatist Jewish agenda.

This is why I like Korean films a lot. They have reached the point where they have a lot of different genres, good actors, and well developed film production studios. They also don't follow Hollywood tropes and quite a few of their films are red pill as fuck..bordering on black pill. If more countries followed Korea's model of separating away from Hollywood's lead it would be a positive thing.

Isn't that the truth. Bollywood has created it's own sub-genre and they are doing it well even if they are not my cup of tea.

Korea and Japan are producing movies and especially children films which are still watchable for kids because they are not filled to the brim with globo-homo-feminazi propaganda. Some animes like One Piece have tens of millions of Western fans, but no Hollywood studio wants to do a Western adaptation.

Why? Because then Hollywood would have to do exactly what the Japanese creators want and the stuff would be propaganda-free, light and happy with strong men and sexy feminine women in it. That is a big-no-go.

Again - Black Panther was not a bad movie, but there is crazy shit coming up afterwards as the movie was strongly politicized within pointing out to White oppression, colonialism frequently leading to this:





And frankly this could have been easily avoided by NOT PUTTING SUCH SCENES INTO THE MOVIE, but by simply showing an isolationist high-IQ advanced African nation - without the pandering to simplistic ideas of "Whitey-kept-us-all-down-everywhere-anytime".

[kosko]

(02-19-2018 08:17 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 04:11 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 08:45 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

A real achievement would be a film studio popping up in Africa putting out their own mainstream productions...

Got you covered there:

As much as this is a laughable piece of shit I have to give them credit for at least trying. It's the same way I feel about Bollywood...there's nothing more unappealing to me from an aesthetic, cultural, and artistic level than seeing a bunch of IRTs singing and dancing on one leg shaking their head back and forth. However, I do give Indians credit for putting together something original based on their culture which is undeniably profitable.

Going forward more countries should have the ambition to form their own entertainment media. The more media you have the more it detracts from Hollywood's cultural and global hegemony. Some people would make the claim that Hollywood movies adds to U.S. soft power worldwide but i'd argue that it does far more damage culturally speaking by spreading global homo/feminist/corporatist Jewish agenda.

This is why I like Korean films a lot. They have reached the point where they have a lot of different genres, good actors, and well developed film production studios. They also don't follow Hollywood tropes and quite a few of their films are red pill as fuck..bordering on black pill. If more countries followed Korea's model of separating away from Hollywood's lead it would be a positive thing.

You're late to the party as Africa already has a large domestic film industry. Nollywood overtook Bollywood years ago as the largest film industry on earth. Nigerian movies get viewed by 100s of millions. It's quantity over quality but there is an established method in character and story development that is common within the industry. Nollywood films outcross Hollywood films in much of West Africa. There is not an appetite for Hollywood as many people think. Very few Hollywood films are able to cross over to get critical mass globally.

The only western culture product Africans consume en masse is EPL soccer. EPL is massive in Africa and locals there are irrational about it and following thier favorite items.

[stugatz]

(02-20-2018 03:27 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 08:17 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

As much as this is a laughable piece of shit I have to give them credit for at least trying. It's the same way I feel about Bollywood...there's nothing more unappealing to me from an aesthetic, cultural, and artistic level than seeing a bunch of IRTs singing and dancing on one leg shaking their head back and forth. However, I do give Indians credit for putting together something original based on their culture which is undeniably profitable.

Going forward more countries should have the ambition to form their own entertainment media. The more media you have the more it detracts from Hollywood's cultural and global hegemony. Some people would make the claim that Hollywood movies adds to U.S. soft power worldwide but i'd argue that it does far more damage culturally speaking by spreading global homo/feminist/corporatist Jewish agenda.

This is why I like Korean films a lot. They have reached the point where they have a lot of different genres, good actors, and well developed film production studios. They also don't follow Hollywood tropes and quite a few of their films are red pill as fuck..bordering on black pill. If more countries followed Korea's model of separating away from Hollywood's lead it would be a positive thing.

Isn't that the truth. Bollywood has created it's own sub-genre and they are doing it well even if they are not my cup of tea.

Korea and Japan are producing movies and especially children films which are still watchable for kids because they are not filled to the brim with globo-homo-feminazi propaganda. Some animes like One Piece have tens of millions of Western fans, but no Hollywood studio wants to do a Western adaptation.

Why? Because then Hollywood would have to do exactly what the Japanese creators want and the stuff would be propaganda-free, light and happy with strong men and sexy feminine women in it. That is a big-no-go.

Again - Black Panther was not a bad movie, but there is crazy shit coming up afterwards as the movie was strongly politicized within pointing out to White oppression, colonialism frequently leading to this:





And frankly this could have been easily avoided by NOT PUTTING SUCH SCENES INTO THE MOVIE, but by simply showing an isolationist high-IQ advanced African nation - without the pandering to simplistic ideas of "Whitey-kept-us-all-down-everywhere-anytime".

I don't understand the strategic thinking of this article. Does the author not understand that blacks - you know, 13 percent of the U.S. population - need all the allies they can get? Even if they don't want to hear the opinions of whites that are pandering to them, whites make up over 60 percent of the people here and hold the vast majority of the power and resources. Throw a "Wakandan bark" at too many of them and they might lose interest in helping you.

This isn't a movie, this is real life. Maybe the article shouldn't use a fantasy film as a blueprint for real life activity...

[Leonard D Neubache]

The author.



This is what black soy looks like.

[nomadbrah]

(02-19-2018 08:17 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

This is why I like Korean films a lot.

Agreed, is there a thread for non-Hollywood film recommendations?

[questor70]

(02-20-2018 02:48 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

An honest opinion from anyone in the MSM on the film would look like this:

"I refuse to write a review on a movie as highly politicised as this, because even if it were honestly good then a review which said as such would still appear to be pandering, while even if the film were trash, a honest but negative review would end my career. I look forward to the day when movies can just be movies, but until the act of reviewing certain movies can be disentangled with politics then it's a pointless gesture at best and and a dangerous mistake at worst."

Really only over the last year or so, maybe around the time Wonder Woman came out, have I realized how much chatter about movies and TV has become THE nexus of political discourse in America.

That by itself doesn't bother me, as film and TV should make you think about the human condition. What bothers me is people now no longer consume entertainment the way they should. They are watching with a little notepad and taking notes on whether it ticks every SJW checkbox and doesn't trip over any SJW triggers.

Then you add to that the PC tone-police online who will brand you a racist/sexist if you don't like certain SJW-approved films like the female Ghostbusters.

So fandom has turned into a sort of identity-politics form of tribal affiliation.

This tears away at the notion that people are entitled to have individual preferences/taste. Now if you don't fall in line and proclaim your love for films that tick the SJW boxes you are opening yourself up to mass social shaming. I think how this plays out is this sliding scale on the part of reviewers. Even reviewers who don't have a particularly strong SJW axe to grind are going to play softball on films that are SJW darlings like this one because they know it's the path of least resistance. This, of course, becomes a self-reinforcing feedback loop. SJW-infused movies and TV begats more SJW-infused movies and TV and nobody has the guts to say it's going too far.

[Aurini]

Here's my review. It's cinematic trash.

[spokepoker]

(02-20-2018 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 08:17 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

This is why I like Korean films a lot.

Agreed, is there a thread for non-Hollywood film recommendations?

There's one for realistic foreign films, but we already have a movie thread, just put your recommendations in there. I've watched a few non-hollywood ones from that thread, and put a few in there.

[nomadbrah]

Here's a business idea for those of you who don't mind some heat and the attention that comes with it.

Make a site rating films and series based on level of SJW.

You could have boxes to tick:

Unrealistic female violence
Stereotypical interracial romance
In your face homosexuality
Transgender normalization
etc

I think a lot of people would use such a site.

[ThrustMaster]

Marvel fucked the pooch. Easily the worst movie I’ve seen in decades. Pandering, SJW, shit.

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-20-2018 09:55 PM)ThrustMaster Wrote:  

Marvel fucked the pooch. Easily the worst movie I’ve seen in decades. Pandering, SJW, shit.

I've invested time into the MCU in the lead up to the two upcoming Infinity War movies, cause I'm a casual fan of old school Marvel comics.
Yet I will not be surprised if the current Marvel comics rot starts to occur in the films after Infinity War 2.

It doesn't even relate to "superhero fatigue".
Yet if you can see the obvious manipulation (ala current / Disney Star Wars), even the simple element of escapism becomes null & void.

[Samseau]

I refuse to watch Black Panther. I just can't bring myself to enter such a pathetic environment.

The simple fact of an audience going to the films to fantasize about a Black world that isn't a fucked up mess is just too depressing for me.

A Black girl told me she saw it three times over the weekend. Blacks throwing up black-power hand symbols in the theatre. Whites fawning over it in order not to offend, or simply to be cool.

Pretending that the Blacks would be a highly intelligent and successful race if not for Whites (if this were the case they would be the rulers; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must) is already bad enough, but what really tops off the pathetic spectacle is the jealousy oozing out of the fans of the film; that Blacks are such an enlightened race so let us celebrate them with a world that is completely opposite of reality.

No one actually gives a fuck about helping Blacks in the real world, they'd rather pretend they are great with cheesy films blaming their problems on Whitey and living in denial. Too depressing to watch a film like this while Blacks suffer in the real world at their own hands. The denial and ignorance is more than I can stomach.

[CynicalContrarian]

^
I can imagine the actual act of going to the cinema to see Black Panther is quite a different 'beast' in parts of America compared to Australia.
In Australia, it's largely just another Marvel science fantasy film.
In Baltimore, Chicago or Cleveland..., seems to be more akin to a religious event. A potentially hostile event at that...

[rpg]

All the nut hugging of this movie by liberals is making me sick.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-20-2018 10:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I refuse to watch Black Panther. I just can't bring myself to enter such a pathetic environment.

The simple fact of an audience going to the films to fantasize about a Black world that isn't a fucked up mess is just too depressing for me.

A Black girl told me she saw it three times over the weekend. Blacks throwing up black-power hand symbols in the theatre. Whites fawning over it in order not to offend, or simply to be cool.

Pretending that the Blacks would be a highly intelligent and successful race if not for Whites (if this were the case they would be the rulers; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must) is already bad enough, but what really tops off the pathetic spectacle is the jealousy oozing out of the fans of the film; that Blacks are such an enlightened race so let us celebrate them with a world that is completely opposite of reality.

No one actually gives a fuck about helping Blacks in the real world, they'd rather pretend they are great with cheesy films blaming their problems on Whitey and living in denial. Too depressing to watch a film like this while Blacks suffer in the real world at their own hands. The denial and ignorance is more than I can stomach.

That is exactly what is happening.

The movie is well made and due to the roaring success - it made about 450 mio$+ within 4-5 days - there will likely be a second or even third installment.

But it is exactly as you say. The movie is seen AS ACTUAL PROOF THAT blacks have just been held back by Whitey. It's not even an inspirational movie of what Africa could look like after centuries of intensive k-selection and determination. No - the full brunt of the guilt for all lack of development even in countries that were mostly free for centuries like Haiti, Ethopia, Liberia - that is all on Whitey. And the lack of whitey in countries like Zimbabwe and the subsequent drop in economic output - that is also on Whitey.

And many many even more Red Pill blacks are stating that Killmonger was the real hero and that they should have attacked and killed the White Supremacists - best kill them all. Even that is moronic because we saw them fighting with magnetic shields, spears and war-rhinos like in some kind of middle ages.

But as you correctly put it Samseau - it will be simply a balm over the real issue. Instead of taking a good hard look and addressing the facts, it will be just WE-WAZ-KANGZ-WERE-IT-NOT-FOR-WHITEY. As some super-high IQ blacks put it - blacks do have the potential to be as high-IQ as any other race and reap all the benefits that this begets, but the fastest way would be through an intensive positive eugenics program. And I don't see that coming if only reality is being denied.

[Captainstabbin]

I watched it...for free. As someone who does VFX, the CGI was horrible in places. The final fight on the subway/train track was laughably bad. It looked like something I'd put together as previz.

The story was boring with huge sections of internal political nonsense. 40 minutes to get him established as king...40!

Bast is Egyptian, I guess that means the Wakandans are the Kushites?

The tribal ceremonies involved weird, rhythmic shoulder shrugging that looked ridiculous.

No hot chicks - and his sister was hideous.



Wakanda has advanced technology that Killmonger wants to use to help blacks take over the world...then they fight with spears and trained rhinos.

Why did Killmonger wait until after T'Chaka died? Wouldn't it make more sense to challenge an older man...the one who killed your father?

Wakanda has at least one major city with skyscrapers, yet a good deal of their population live in mud huts. It's run like North Korea, the military elite live in luxury while the rest just try to raise enough food to survive.

The Ape tribe actually gibber when excited? That seems insulting.

Speaking of that tribe, they separated themselves because they didn't agree with Wakandan isolationist policies...so they isolate themselves from both the world and Wakanda? Doesn't sound well-thought-out.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(02-21-2018 04:50 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

...

...

Pretty cold in Wakanda?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

^^ Actually yes - many parts of Africa are highlands, making even the equatorial climate feel more like eternal spring than an endless scorching summer that most people imagine.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(02-21-2018 05:26 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

^^ Actually yes - many parts of Africa are highlands, making even the equatorial climate feel more like eternal spring than an endless scorching summer that most people imagine.

I'm definitely seeing some "highlands" there, if you know what I mean.

[RexImperator]

Nips

[Aurini]

(02-21-2018 04:50 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

What's with the White girl second from the left?

Hey, I'm just calling it like I sees it. (((They're))) the ones who made it a racial thing.

This film is the equivalent of Nike sneakers being sold to black youth, made by Asian slave labour, and profiting White millionaire globalists.

[questor70]

(02-21-2018 09:55 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

What's with the White girl second from the left?

I guess the isolationism missed a sperm or two.

I haven't seen the film but the bald warrior women seem to be Marvel's corporate-focus-group-approved answer to the Amazons in Wonder Woman. It's a two-fer, you score both minority and feminist points for the SJWs keeping score on their notepads.

The anachronisms seem to be there for the same reason as the Asgardians still having an old Norse flavor with swords and hammers and mead-halls. It's to establish a sense of style, not to make any sense.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-21-2018 10:58 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(02-21-2018 09:55 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

What's with the White girl second from the left?

I guess the isolationism missed a sperm or two.

I haven't seen the film but the bald warrior women seem to be Marvel's corporate-focus-group-approved answer to the Amazons in Wonder Woman. It's a two-fer, you score both minority and feminist points for the SJWs keeping score on their notepads.

The anachronisms seem to be there for the same reason as the Asgardians still having an old Norse flavor with swords and hammers and mead-halls. It's to establish a sense of style, not to make any sense.

Sure, but Asgard is a fucking heaven populated by Gods and fallen warriors - it's a bloody disc-world set in open space! They diversified it heavily and added needlessly the colonialist exploitation angle for no apparent, but SJW reason.

Wakanda however should be slightly more realistic in theory - especially when they blabber about real-life issues.

[redpillage]

(02-20-2018 04:52 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Here's a business idea for those of you who don't mind some heat and the attention that comes with it.

Make a site rating films and series based on level of SJW.

You could have boxes to tick:

Unrealistic female violence
Stereotypical interracial romance
In your face homosexuality
Transgender normalization
etc

I think a lot of people would use such a site.

I spent two months building exactly that two years ago. Posted it here but got very little interest, which surprised me, so I let it die. Incomplete snapshot here but you get the idea:

https://web.archive.org/web/201502230440...ge.com:80/

It had a red/blue pill based rating system and all. Plus authors were able to get paid via bitcoins - it was all there in 2015. Still have the code backup somewhere...

I was planning on advertising it on ROK as well back then as well but Roosh wanted to get paid via PayPal (and not crypto) and that was too risky for me. Which turned out to be the right instinct judging by the witch hunt we've seen since then.

A year or so later I offered to donate the code to Roosh but he said he was too busy with other projects. Which is when I gave up for good.

So there, I tried - put in the work. Thought it was a great idea that would catch on. Clearly I was wrong.