[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 12:34 AM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

1. What is your current weekly time investment for each of these three profit streams?
2. How does the profit breakdown between these three profit streams from the 20k to 30k figure?
3. How do you plan to scale up your business to the 100k a month figure? VAs, software, reinvesting profits, etc.?
4. If you have time or have already considered, what are you planning on doing this coming year or have done this year to safeguard these profit streams?

1.
- The card service is about 1 hour/day give or take, though some days it can be more like 3-4.
- Running affiliate traffic can be 0 hours/day when things are up and running, or it can be 20 hours/day if you're working on building out ads, networking with necessary people on skype, setting up/ learning new tech, reading industry forums, spying on ads, writing copy, making creatives, etc etc. This is entirely variable because it depends how much you want to scale and if you have a team doing monotonous stuff or if you're flying solo.
- Cryptos I'm pretty new to, I'd say I spend 2-6 hours/ day on this stuff currently. Studying TA, networking, reading, watching charts.
*as for weekly time, I work 7 days a week, so who knows. When you include studying/ networking on skype I'd say I easily work 60-70 hours/week, though can work 100. But honestly I'd say 80% of it doesn't feel like work. It's just what I like to do.*

2. It's very much variable.
- My best week with the card service I did a little over 20k profit, but most weeks it's more like 1-5k. And it's not steady, have had multiple week stretches with no sales. All based on timing of my clients and their needs.
- Best days running affiliate traffic for me have been around 1k.. I'm just getting going with this side as well, after spending 6 months earlier this year working for an agency. This part largely depends on my account flow/ angles I have ready.
- This month I've done 18k in crypto profits. So this month my total income has gotta be more like 50k, but I'd say 20-30k is steady and I don't want to exaggerate or e-brag.

3.
- The way to scale the card business for me will be simply networking and finding high value people that need my services. Harder than you'd think. So far it's been entirely word of mouth.. I'll be in Vegas for ASW and hope to pick up new clients there. At some point may make a public facing website and run ad campaigns, but part of me does like being a private/ word of mouth service. Keeps me flying under the radar, which in this legal climate is a good thing.
- Affiliate traffic is very very scaleable. Yes I'd like to hire a good VA, probably one from EE. I now have the accounts piece of the puzzle in place. Plan to scale geos with my casino traffic. Really not that hard to hit 100k/mo just doing affiliate stuff, assuming you have the accounts and angles to do so. Simply spend 3k/day at all times with 100% roi. Call it 6 accounts @ 500/day each, always active. Which means roughly 15 accounts on hand at all times, some warming, some running. Many affiliates start to get lazy around the 2-4k/day mark because at that point they're making way more money than they realistically need and are living amazing lifestyles. Most aren't hungry to build it to 10k/day, then 20k/day and have a real company because that's very very hard and a lot more complicated than just running some accounts by yourself and living well. I'll let you know when I get there .
- Cryptos I'll scale by getting better at trading, networking with more traders that can teach me more, and letting my bankroll compound. Plenty of guys in the fb group I mentioned are successful affiliates that have 1mm+ invested. This space will be making many guys worth hundreds of millions in the coming years.

4.
- Safeguarding the card solution.. I keep my clients happy by providing obsessively good service. I'm working to diversify my BINs (banks where I procure the cards), and recently entered a strategic partnership that makes my deal for them and insanely good value.
- Safeguarding affiliate stuff.. it's all about the accounts. Have nurtured a relationship with a partner, we've helped each other a lot and trust each other with tens of thousands of each other's money without hesitation. He's like my brother. And also my account plug. Without relationships in this space it just won't work..
- Safeguarding crypto.. all I can do is educate and try to not be greedy. Will be pulling out my principal in January so I'll be 100% playing with house money.

[GlobalMan]

Keep going AffNomad, there is still more rope to give. This is not the first time we've had one of you.

There are already three things you've stated in one post alone that I personally know to be 100% bullshit. Give me an even four so I can lay it out for everyone.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 02:09 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Keep going AffNomad, there is still more rope to give. This is not the first time we've had one of you.

There are already three things you've stated in one post alone that I personally know to be 100% bullshit. Give me an even four so I can lay it out for everyone.

I'm going to need to ask you to put your big boy pants on and open your mind

[GlobalMan]

How many kilometers can you swim in a day?

[GlobalMan]

Are you hoping I broke a rule, or researching which kind of troll you are?

[AffNomad]

Lol you're something else. So far you're the only one to call BS, and that's up to you. I opened this thread to see about helping some guys interested in taking first steps towards digital entrepreneurship, not to deal with wankers and trolls.

[GlobalMan]

(12-26-2017 02:34 AM)AffNomad Wrote:  

So far you're the only one to call BS

That's because men are easily seduced by numbers, and by other men who claim to have what they want. Again, not the first time in these parts.

What you didn't count on is anyone else having direct and extensive knowledge in some of these areas.

Why not just come clean now?

[AffNomad]

Hey, maybe your "direct and extensive" knowledge runs contradictory to my experience, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there.

Or maybe you've simply dabbled, gotten burnt, and are bitter.

[GlobalMan]

Keep going, maybe we can wrap this up within the hour

[AffNomad]

Uhmm, you're the one who claims to have proof I'm full of shit, then proceeds to bark and not bite. Tell ya what - you call me out however you want, and when I prove you wrong, you donate $200 to the charity of my choosing. Deal?

[CleanSlate]

If you can prove what you're doing, how about posting some screenshots of your revenue/income? Do redact any identifying information, of course.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 02:49 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

If you can prove what you're doing, how about posting some screenshots of your revenue/income? Do redact any identifying information, of course.

That crossed my mind, but honestly screenshots don't mean anything if using them to prove something to someone that has their mind made up. Show a screenshot of my accounting overview, it'll get called photoshopped. Corroborate with bank statements, redacted skype chats, same. Affiliate tracker screenshots.. same. Really the only thing that'd prove it is a screen vid capture. Which would be a pain to do, a pain to get edited for redactment, and based on this guy's attitude, would probabaly just incite him more.

Being that I'm here to try to help, it's all pretty over the top. And for the sake of argument, I could be copying my posts from some aff marketing forum (I'm not), a total poser, and it wouldn't make anything I'm saying less true. It'd be pretty pathetic, ya, but wouldn't really affect the value I'm contributing.

[Captain Gh]

^^ OP's the real deal no doubt in my mind... and the line that solidified it for me was is "Go where there are pioneers with arrows in their backs" This is the same concept one of my mentor Kevin Trudeau mentioned being that "Pioneering don't Pay". Broke people think the exact opposite...

Re-read all of OP's post... and yes he's throwing these Huge #, but he's doing it like he's playing chess, with no arrogance whatsoever. OP keep doing your thing & helps us trying to achieve what you have

[GlobalMan]

(12-26-2017 03:05 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

^^ OP's the real deal no doubt in my mind... and the line that solidified it for me was is "Go where there are pioneers with arrows in their backs" This is the same concept one of my mentor Kevin Trudeau talked about " Pioneering don't Pay". Broke people think the exact opposite...

This has to be sarcasm.

(12-26-2017 03:05 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Re-read all of OP's post

Here's the summary from the posts:

- Ex Male model
- bangs up to 7 new girls/week (new girl each day)
- ..while working 7 days/week 14 hrs+ per day
- Makes up to 50k/month but “doesn’t want to brag” so says 20-30k
- Meanwhile 28 posts on Christmas Eve/Day

[Suits]

(12-26-2017 02:34 AM)AffNomad Wrote:  

Lol you're something else. So far you're the only one to call BS, and that's up to you. I opened this thread to see about helping some guys interested in taking first steps towards digital entrepreneurship, not to deal with wankers and trolls.

Listen tough guy, it's tradition and common courtesy here for people making extra-ordinary claims to show some evidence. We've had so many trolls come here and attempt to dupe the membership that now we typically ask for proof as a matter of course.

I'm not a moderator and I have no authority. I'm just telling you how things usually go down here.

New guys who decided they were to alpha to be questioned have no typically lasted very long. So far, your reaction to GlobalMan does not bode well for your future here.

[Captain Gh]

Delete

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 03:05 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

^^ OP's the real deal no doubt in my mind... and the line that solidified it for me was is "Go where there are pioneers with arrows in their backs" This is the same concept one of my mentor Kevin Trudeau mentioned being that "Pioneering don't Pay". Broke people think the exact opposite...

Re-read all of OP's post... and yes he's throwing these Huge #, but he's doing it like he's playing chess, with no arrogance whatsoever. OP keep doing your thing & helps us trying to achieve what you have

Appreciate that, and love that line. Haven't read Trudeau, not sure where I picked it up.. maybe watching one of Akatiff's talks or something.

(12-26-2017 03:11 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Listen tough guy, it's tradition and common courtesy here for people making extra-ordinary claims to show some evidence. We've had so many trolls come here and attempt to dupe the membership that now we typically ask for proof as a matter of course.

I'm not a moderator and I have no authority. I'm just telling you how things usually go down here.

New guys who decided they were to alpha to be questioned have no typically lasted very long. So far, your reaction to GlobalMan does not bode well for your future here.

Sure, totally get that you guys are skeptical. And hear you about past trolls. I'm not too alpha to be questioned - no one is. But as a guy that's hustled VERY hard to be doing what I'm doing, it's gotta be done with class. Taking issue with specific points I'm making is totally cool and I'll gladly talk shop. Asking me how many KM I can swim etc, telling me I'm a hangman on a rope, and otherwise being straight up disrespectful doesn't really get us anywhere.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 03:08 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(12-26-2017 03:05 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

^^ OP's the real deal no doubt in my mind... and the line that solidified it for me was is "Go where there are pioneers with arrows in their backs" This is the same concept one of my mentor Kevin Trudeau talked about " Pioneering don't Pay". Broke people think the exact opposite...

This has to be sarcasm.

(12-26-2017 03:05 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Re-read all of OP's post

Here's the summary from the posts:

- Ex Male model
- bangs up to 7 new girls/week (new girl each day)
- ..while working 7 days/week 14 hrs+ per day
- Makes up to 50k/month but “doesn’t want to brag” so says 20-30k
- Meanwhile 28 posts on Christmas Eve/Day

-Yup.. back in my early 20s. Never made a living at it, never claimed to.
- Specifically said I've slowed down a bit these days and that tinder in LA in '17 isn't as easy as tinder in NYC in '15.. but sure, there are still weeks here and there it'll fall into place. Also said that if nothing else is avail I'll bang a 5.
- This month is around 50k, but like I said, not steady.
- Cool.

The logic you're presenting doesn't actually take any disagreement with anything I've said in terms of substance.. despite you claiming to have significant and contradictory wisdom in the space.

[Suits]

(12-26-2017 03:19 AM)AffNomad Wrote:  

(12-26-2017 03:11 AM)Suits Wrote:  

New guys who decided they were to alpha to be questioned have no typically lasted very long. So far, your reaction to GlobalMan does not bode well for your future here.

Sure, totally get that you guys are skeptical. And hear you about past trolls. I'm not too alpha to be questioned - no one is. But as a guy that's hustled VERY hard to be doing what I'm doing, it's gotta be done with class.

You're a noob with no reps and we have no evidence regarding how hard you have hustled. Given that you haven't taken the time to establish yourself, you aren't in a position to decide how we are allowed to question your claims.

There are guys on this forum who are multimillionaires and earn more than you. Guess what? They don't talk about in on the forum. At all. They've played it cool, met some fellow members and then when you post something related to their success that would be questionable coming from a complete noob, they've got guys who can confirm that he is legit.

If you'd like some help, PM me for an email address where you can send me some evidence to support your claims. I'll rep you if you can send me documents that couldn't easily be doctored.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 03:26 AM)Suits Wrote:  

You're a noob with no reps and we have no evidence regarding how hard you have hustled. Given that you haven't taken the time to establish yourself, you aren't in a position to decide how we are allowed to question your claims.

There are guys on this forum who are multimillionaires and earn more than you. Guess what? They don't talk about in on the forum. At all. They've played it cool, met some fellow members and then when you post something related to their success that would be questionable coming from a complete noob, they've got guys who can confirm that he is legit.

If you'd like some help, PM me for an email address where you can send me some evidence to support your claims. I'll rep you if you can send me documents that couldn't easily be doctored.

Fair enough. You guys can question my claims however you want - and if it's done in an objectively disrespectful and counterproductive way, I'm not going to roll over and be a bitch about it.

Absolutely - I'm sure there are. I don't have nearly the level of success I aspire to have, or see is possible from other guys in my space. The point of this thread wasn't to say "hey guys I'm so much richer and better than you if you don't make as much money as me". It was thinking, "hey, this forum has some cool guys on it, I've been reading and taking value for the better part of a year, and this is a way where maybe I could give back." Can see the it's not received this way across the board.

And sure, deal. Appreciate the offer for help.

[Suits]

OP has taken the time to email me a bunch of screenshots that appear to confirm that he is heavily involved in the work he claims to be. I'd recommend we all give him the benefit of the doubt.

[GlobalMan]

If I'm wrong, let me be the first to apologize.

However, I don't think I'm wrong- for a number of reasons.

Others can judge for themselves, either way I will stay out of this thread going forward. Carry on OP.

[Il Bersagliere]

Bullshit, I can easily doctor some screenshots using inspect element on Google Chrome.

List a BH/WH niche or offer and go through a step by step walkthrough on how you set up a campaign and drive traffic to it with estimates/earning potential/analysis. Everything else is fluff.

To get quality affiliate info, you unfortunately have to pay for it and the learning curve is way too high. Thanks for the giveaway, OP.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 04:27 AM)Suits Wrote:  

OP has taken the time to email me a bunch of screenshots that appear to confirm that he is heavily involved in the work he claims to be. I'd recommend we all give him the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks for taking the time to help me try to sort this out.

(12-26-2017 04:44 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

If I'm wrong, let me be the first to apologize.

However, I don't think I'm wrong- for a number a reasons.

Others can judge for themselves, either way I will stay out of this thread going forward. Carry on OP.

Look man, I don't like the way you came at me, but I respect you. I've read your posts, I've seen your contributions. I get that respect is earned around here, I get where you're coming from.

Suits you're welcome to forward my email string to GlobalMan, or GlobalMan I'll forward directly if you'd like. Or we can just drop it. I'll leave that up to you. Edit: FWIW if you do have digital marketing experience to share I'd be jazzed to talk shop in this thread or elsewhere. More minds always better than one.


Happy Holidays to everyone.

[AffNomad]

(12-26-2017 04:45 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Bullshit, I can easily doctor some screenshots using inspect element on Google Chrome.

List a BH/WH niche or offer and go through a step by step walkthrough on how you set up a campaign and drive traffic to it with estimates/earning potential/analysis. Everything else is fluff.

To get quality affiliate info, you unfortunately have to pay for it and the learning curve is way too high. Thanks for the giveaway, OP.

(12-26-2017 02:57 AM)AffNomad Wrote:  

That crossed my mind, but honestly screenshots don't mean anything if using them to prove something to someone that has their mind made up. Show a screenshot of my accounting overview, it'll get called photoshopped. Corroborate with bank statements, redacted skype chats, same. Affiliate tracker screenshots.. same. Really the only thing that'd prove it is a screen vid capture. Which would be a pain to do, a pain to get edited for redactment, and based on this guy's attitude, would probabaly just incite him more.

^This


Actually, those are the sort of meaty questions I was hoping to receive when I started this thread. People asking about workflow, process, practical stuff. Things that might actually be able to help.

And ya, thanks for recognizing that usually that kind of info is bought either through time/money spent on failed campaigns and spinning wheels, or like in my example by paying some guru thousands to teach it, and working for an elite fb marketing agency for 6 months for little pay.

But ya, when you ask in a purely rhetorical and snide manner, right after a member with literally more than 10x your rep just vouched for me, and you have no constructive or legitimate experience based issue with anything I've said... It's really disincentivizing to try to help you out.