[RatInTheWoods]

I'd be interested to know that the percentage of categories of Gamer users are here.

I have broken it down into the following.

[Mufasa]

Player but willing to go into LTR with a quality girl

[PlevenskiTarikat]

I'd describe myself just like Mufasa

[MaceTyrell]

Novice player, trying to actively avoid an LTR (after years of unproductive obsession over getting LTRs, and then mismanaging them/wasting time in them).

[Rocha]

Cheater + player in between LTRs. I am doomed.

[John Michael Kane]

LTR seeker, looking to get married and have kids. The player lifestyle doesn't appeal to me in the long run. It is sort of like porn. Feels good in the moment, but afterwards, I feel like something is lacking. I came from two good parents and I think it would be a shame if I didn't raise some mature sons and daughters of my own.

[RatInTheWoods]

Looks like a higher amount of LTR seekers than I thought on here.....

[John Michael Kane]

(09-12-2017 01:24 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Looks like a higher amount of LTR seekers than I thought on here.....

Men can have quite a romantic soul, not to mention the desire to shape the world by starting your own tribe. You can't have patriarchy without a LTR woman that will be the future wife of your children. By the time even a lot of players hit their late twenties and early thirties, many think about or actually get out of notch chasing and try to settle down. There are some that are tail chasers forever, but I don't think that's most men.

[Suits]

I've been the player, but I'm currently taking a break from sex and relationships altogether.

I need to plan out (to the best of my ability) my life and determine my goals for the next 20 years. I'm 31 now and I don't see life as a player being a strategy that is going to result in a lifestyle I'll find satisfaction in at age 50.

That's not to say that I'm looking to marry and settle down. The truth is that I'm not sure and I want to determine as much before moving forward. So a break from distracting things is warranted.

Moreover, I'm questioning whether the ethics of casual sex (or even sex within a LTR that is ultimately not committed for life) is something I can live with. I'd feel like hell if I got a girl pregnant and she chose abort it or if I was the cause of yet another single mother raising a kid alone. While I'm absolutely religious about using condoms, I've had a couple break. Nothing is 100%.

Nothing is 100% risk free either, so I'm taking some time off to pursue determining what my long term threshold for risk is and how to respond by making choices I can live with.

Where does that leave game for me?

I haven't stopped interacting with women. The skills I've learned as a part of game remain useful every day.

[kirdiesel]

(09-11-2017 03:19 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

Player but willing to go into LTR with a quality girl

AMEN.

[RatInTheWoods]

(09-12-2017 02:04 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I've been the player, but I'm currently taking a break from sex and relationships altogether.

I need to plan out (to the best of my ability) my life and determine my goals for the next 20 years. I'm 31 now and I don't see life as a player being a strategy that is going to result in a lifestyle I'll find satisfaction in at age 50.

Interesting, thanks for sharing Suits.

I've done that on and off over the decades, and those times have always been the happiest and most productive bursts of my life.

But eventually the pussy need creeps back in with associated drama and lost productivity.

Men are cursed.

[mensch]

I put myself as LTRer since I'd say that's my main motivation in terms of game. That being said, I have fairly high standards and tend to be relatively brutal in rejecting women that don't have 'it', so in effect I have a high turnover rate.

[redbeard]

(09-12-2017 02:04 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I've been the player, but I'm currently taking a break from sex and relationships altogether.

I need to plan out (to the best of my ability) my life and determine my goals for the next 20 years. I'm 31 now and I don't see life as a player being a strategy that is going to result in a lifestyle I'll find satisfaction in at age 50.

That's not to say that I'm looking to marry and settle down. The truth is that I'm not sure and I want to determine as much before moving forward. So a break from distracting things is warranted.

Moreover, I'm questioning whether the ethics of casual sex (or even sex within a LTR that is ultimately not committed for life) is something I can live with. I'd feel like hell if I got a girl pregnant and she chose abort it or if I was the cause of yet another single mother raising a kid alone. While I'm absolutely religious about using condoms, I've had a couple break. Nothing is 100%.

Nothing is 100% risk free either, so I'm taking some time off to pursue determining what my long term threshold for risk is and how to respond by making choices I can live with.

Where does that leave game for me?

I haven't stopped interacting with women. The skills I've learned as a part of game remain useful every day.

The long term solution is to accept the risk that we could 100% knock up these girls.

I try more and more to fuck girls who...if I knock up...I'd be cool with keeping. I'm not TRYING to knock them up, I still have strong pull out game, but it's a possibility.

I still bang a few clunkers, but that offers diminishing returns once you're at an intermediate game level.

[True Balla]

Definitely agreed with Player until finding a girl worthy of LTR

[Ouroboros]

I'm taking a brief pause from game due to temporary money/logistical issues, but I intend on being a player until I meet a girl who meets the criteria for a LTR. I'd like to get more game experience but there's no way I'd discard a quality girl for the sake of pursuing a high notch count, knowing how rare quality girls are.

[Suits]

(09-12-2017 11:09 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(09-12-2017 02:04 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I've been the player, but I'm currently taking a break from sex and relationships altogether.

I need to plan out (to the best of my ability) my life and determine my goals for the next 20 years. I'm 31 now and I don't see life as a player being a strategy that is going to result in a lifestyle I'll find satisfaction in at age 50.

That's not to say that I'm looking to marry and settle down. The truth is that I'm not sure and I want to determine as much before moving forward. So a break from distracting things is warranted.

Moreover, I'm questioning whether the ethics of casual sex (or even sex within a LTR that is ultimately not committed for life) is something I can live with. I'd feel like hell if I got a girl pregnant and she chose abort it or if I was the cause of yet another single mother raising a kid alone. While I'm absolutely religious about using condoms, I've had a couple break. Nothing is 100%.

Nothing is 100% risk free either, so I'm taking some time off to pursue determining what my long term threshold for risk is and how to respond by making choices I can live with.

Where does that leave game for me?

I haven't stopped interacting with women. The skills I've learned as a part of game remain useful every day.

The long term solution is to accept the risk that we could 100% knock up these girls.

I try more and more to fuck girls who...if I knock up...I'd be cool with keeping. I'm not TRYING to knock them up, I still have strong pull out game, but it's a possibility.

That's the thing. I've been banging two girl on a regular basis recently.

The first is good for banging and casual time together, but too much time (like if she tries to hang out the next morning) and she becomes rather annoying.

The second I actually enjoy spending time with. I don't know if I'd want to live with her, but I think I could handle having her in my life. However, add the complexity of her Chinese family and I'm not sure I'd feel ethically OK with putting a kid in her.

I've never wanted to be a player, but given the way laws and social norms have developed, marriage is unattractive virtually anywhere in the world, even if its the best thing for any kids that might end up being created.

Ethically, my ideal situation would be to have multiple wives, for whom I am financially responsible, but not otherwise indebted to. I see getting locked into a marriage with a woman who can basically do as she pleases without concern about consequences is a fool's pursuit.

Given that marriage isn't currently constructed like that, I'd like to reserve the option to get a new, younger chick if any of the current wives let themselves go and protection from the children being held as hostage to extract additional unpromised resources from me.

It's preferable to me that the children's mother remain a part of their life, but it's absolutely unacceptable to create children in an environment where those children could be used as a bargaining chip or forbidden to have contact with their father.

If I have children, you can be damn sure that I'd give them a world class education and not only set them up for success in life, but also give them the opportunity to develop into healthy and ethically minded people.

Given my lack of faith in the wisdom of modern women, I'd certainly need to have full control of the future of my own children.

As it currently stands, I haven't determined a means of achieving this, but I don't see any of this as impossible. Buying a village (or two) in Africa is always an option.

[Vet-Boy]

I'm on the same boat as Mufasa

[Distant Light]

Other...

All about Personal Growth on the being/consciousness level...

Focused on experiencing, learning growing while presenting opportunities for others to grow around me both socially & sexually.

Zero interest in LTRs, don't care about being a player (I just have sex, nothing great or admirable about the actual ACT)

All that matters is how that person leads to more growth through the memorable experiences and vice versa.

When we die all we got is our consciousness NOT the avatar or accollades of lay count or a "special" girl. Every person that comes in contact can be special in some form or another.

Imo everything else is merely a distraction to our real purpose in life.

I'll die with no kids BUT have spawned more stable consciousness to breakthrough a more loving ground within society. Less fears & ego, better quality experiences, relationship & lifestyle.

P.S...Just got out of a 2.5 year monogamous prison sentences. Fast track to becoming deluded, fearful & egoic. Except instead of just 1 being it's a CULT-ure of 2 beings

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(09-12-2017 05:17 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

(09-12-2017 02:04 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I've been the player, but I'm currently taking a break from sex and relationships altogether.

I need to plan out (to the best of my ability) my life and determine my goals for the next 20 years. I'm 31 now and I don't see life as a player being a strategy that is going to result in a lifestyle I'll find satisfaction in at age 50.

Interesting, thanks for sharing Suits.

I've done that on and off over the decades, and those times have always been the happiest and most productive bursts of my life.

But eventually the pussy need creeps back in with associated drama and lost productivity.

Men are cursed.

There was a time in my blue pill married days, when I wasn't getting laid, but I had low T, and had far less interest in getting laid. I still fapped to porn, (part of the problem really), but I wasn't interested in fooling around with other women or with my reasonably attractive wife. The issue with my wife was a bad case of starfish sex, which was such a turn off I stopped trying.

After I started getting back in shape, my libido came on very strong, and it was no longer acceptable to not get laid. I became horny again like a teenager, with hardons keeping me awake at night.

You say men are cursed, and I understand what you meant, but I just wanted to say that now that I'm horny again, I want to stay that way. I'd rather lay awake all night with a raging hardon, with no one on hand to fuck, and a determination to nofap, rather than having peace from my sexual drives, at the cost of a loss of libido.

[yankeetravels]

I'm a little bit of everything at the moment. I voted player looking to bang as many as I can but I think that's just because I've been in the US for a couple months now and a little vacation sick from the Philippines.

However, I could see myself easily settling down in the right LTR with a quality girl AND I could see myself trying to have side action in that LTR if I live somewhere that situation would allow it like SEA.

I'm also a pretty young guy so I guess I'm still trying to answer this question since I appreciate quality LTRs and FWBs but at the same time, still feel like I have things left to do. I've been keeping contact with a Filipina as an insurance LDR because I think she's better LTR material than 90% of girls in my area while I try to get action in America so in short I'm all over the place lol.

[Steelex]

Im in an LTR and use game to lock down 3somes on the reg. I also venture outside the relationship quite frequently.

If you don't have atleast one in the chamber, you are inadvertently putting yourself in a bad position in your relationship. Women can smell the options.

[MongolianAbroad]

Delete.