[The Beast1]

Definitions:

Virgin: 100% bonafide virgin. No anal, no blowies, no intercourse, maybe gave a guy a handjob once in middle school.

Slut: Lost count after 75th sexual partner.

Edit: For reference, refer to girls on this graphic for what a 6 is:
http://imgur.com/EsOwgTg

[Cattle Rustler]

You can always add enhancements to the 6 (boob job, fitted clothes, schoolgirl outfit, lingerie) and make her rating go up....but you can't turn a ho into a housewife.

Also, there's no certainty that the 9 will be loyal; hoes will be hoes. A virgin will try to make a relationship work till the end, then end up discovering their slutty side and getting swooped by MILF hunters like me.

Edit: The 6s on that link....I would only take the 1st 3rd 5th and 7th gals.

[Rush87]

How rich is the slut?

[The Beast1]

(07-24-2017 12:36 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

How rich is the slut?

For the sake of this post, assume both your finances and hers are a non variable in your choice.

[Rhyme or Reason]

Why is there no "neither, but bang both" option?

[dallasguy]

Never LTR a cumbucket.

[The Catalyst]

I want my children to have good genes and be strong, healthy and attractive so...

[Rush87]

(07-24-2017 12:39 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 12:36 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

How rich is the slut?

For the sake of this post, assume both your finances and hers are a non variable in your choice.

Easily the 6. If a girls had over 75 cocks, clearly it's not difficult to get in her pants, and if it's not difficult to get in her pants, chances are you won't be the last, and if you're not the last, you better learn to love being cucked, or love being divorced.

[Spectrumwalker]

Virgin 6. If we're talking about a potential wife and mother of children, the mere idea of her being defiled by men in the past just makes my skin crawl. For me it just comes down to a sense of ownership. Even if I just have a serious girlfriend, she's mine. Not any other man's. And even though it was in the past and she obviously once never even knew of my existence, still just knowing another man has pounded out what's now mine, and that she's gone down on another man before; well it will take her a lot of proving that she's worth taking my last name. Some say it's an insecurity, then fuck it; maybe it is. I think it's just raw natural hard wiring and basic instinct.

Ironically there's virgins that can be deranged and damaged goods in their own ways. Just because a gal is a virgin, doesn't mean she isn't crazy. And there's slutty 9's who can make fine mothers and wives who just got a little too floozy in their youth succumbing to the power of their own beauty and cultural influence. But knowing the sexual history of a girl is a serious buzzkill. Finding a virgin who also has other admirable qualities that would make her a good wife and mother is difficult to come across. Accepting this, personally the female notch count I'm willing to accept is no more than 3 priors. It used to be 4, but after my last LTR; had to drop it down one. Will one ever know the truth? No. The more time spent together you can judge whether or not she may have told you the truth. But it's a conversation that must be had for one's own dignity so they're not the chump who's marrying the broad after every one else used her as a human sex toy.

To any female lurkers, or fathers of daughters reading this. Tell your girls if they wait for a man who has shit together and wants a family, they can be taken care of the rest of their days and live the good life. But once she gives it away and that first guy breaks her heart or walks out on her, she will forever have to give it away to every other smooth talking cad who comes knocking and that she's seduced by. If she were to all the sudden "see the error of her ways", and deny sex to every man after she's already given it away, even if it was only once, no man worth his salt and with an ounce of self respect would accept that deal. Unless he's got girls on the side to keep himself sane until he's ready to take the plunge of marriage. Not fair the ladies say? Tough, it is what it is. But if there's a guy who's a pug that accepts to wait on a non virgin girl after she's changed her mind; guaranteed he'll be a serious tool who's going to make her life miserable as a woman. If a man were tell every girl he's ever been with that he loved her, it obviously means nothing. Same goes for women spreading their legs too often. The more you give it away the less it means. If I'm in it for the long haul with a woman to start a family, I'll admit it I would like to earn it. Just like she wants to earn my love and commitment. I want to train and build up my own lovable little lady of the night.

[bgbusiness]

Virgin 6 if she is able to be "trained" and "sculpted."
If I am dating her since early 20s, it's very easy to make her a good partner for me over the next few years.

[Suits]

Where's the "slutty 5" option?

[Leonard D Neubache]

(07-24-2017 12:57 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

I want my children to have good genes and be strong, healthy and attractive so...

So...?

Most 9s are regarded to be helium-light nordic models, so if you want your sons to look like helium-light nordic fags then by all means knock up the 9

[samsamsam]

At least a noob didn't start this thread. I say the 6. Talking marriage and these are the only two options presented. I am assuming the virgin will be taught to do all the right things in bed.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

First of all - no marriage - is a trick question.

Marry the 6, keep the 9 as a side-dish. Best of both worlds.

[RatInTheWoods]

Bang the 9

Marry the 6

[soup]

There are billions of 6s who are virgins. Training virgins to be good at sex can be a pain in the ass.

9s are rare. And they do sleep around because that's what attractive people tend to do.

You can either be average or go for the gold.

[John Michael Kane]

Not even close. Would marry the virgin in a heartbeat. If she passes my boner test, is a sweetheart, virgin, etc, why not? I don't want the future mother of my kids to be a cum dumpster.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(07-24-2017 10:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

There are billions of 6s who are virgins. Training virgins to be good at sex can be a pain in the ass.

9s are rare. And they do sleep around because that's what attractive people tend to do.

You can either be average or go for the gold.

Of course you can turn around a 9 with Game/dominance. And also a virgin can be a repressed virgin who will want to ride the carousel later on.

But funny on the show 90 Day Fiance - the common sense Red Pill rule is confirmed:


Virgin girl - the bi-racial South African - second child under way and happy.


Virgin Brazilian Mormon girl - happy and with child after years.


Guy married a low-notch-count Colombian girl - still happy and fine.

The other side:


Virgin boy marries Russian stripper girl - after marriage he got a black baby out of it - got cucked right after signing and the girl claims that she has some remote black genes - yeah right - parents are white as chalk.

It takes a guy with Game/knowledge of women/good chemistry to ride the bronco of a slutty 9. It's possible to do it of course, but it's no feat for the average guy.

[eddie_7]

(07-24-2017 10:16 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Not even close. Would marry the virgin in a heartbeat. If she passes my boner test, is a sweetheart, virgin, etc, why not? I don't want the future mother of my kids to be a cum dumpster.

Totally agree with you. Even if a woman might have a low notch count, there's still a risk of her being "alpha widowed", let alone a high notch count slutty 9 woman. What's more is that the virgin 6 is more likely to be more attracted to her husband and thus work harder/put more effort into making the relationship work rather than the slutty 9 who might just overly rely on her fading looks.
A virgin 6 wife would also receive less attention from men and thus a lesser chance of her being tempted to be unfaithful to her spouse.

Personally for me compatibility in terms of shared values, emotional and intellectual connection can make up for the lowered physical looks. As long as the virgin 6 is slim, feminine and has a submissive and happy personality, that is preferable over the slutty 9.

[Australia Sucks]

I voted for the virgin 6, although the real life answer is why not try to have it all, the best of both world's and marry a virgin 9?

[John Michael Kane]

I've been in long-term relationships with sixes and nines. I can tell you that actually loving waking up next to the person you care about matters. A lot of super hot women are entitled. Ideally, we marry a virgin 9 but as that isn't easy to find (at least in the West) we try and find the cute if not hot girl for marriage. I know quite a few guys who married cute, but not hot girls who were virgins or low notch prior to marriage. Not a single divorce from that group. Some of my hotter exs are still sleeping around, trying their best to find Bigger and Better.

One of the most misunderstood things about dating really hot women is their desire to trade up unless you are a peak alpha. The hypergamy is strong in beautiful women. The smart ones hold out and don't sleep around. The not smart hotties sleep around to try and secure an alpha but mostly get used.

Is it any wonder that most men who are game aware would take a sweet cute virgin over a hot girl who had been pumped and dumped many times, might have had any abortion or perhaps even STDs? #teamcutevirgin

[Lermontov]

When you get in a LTR with a virgin, you don't know how the sexlife will be. You don't know how she will develop sexually. It takes time to get good at sex and it can be an arduous path for a woman to get comfortable with her own sexuality. Some will say "if you train her right everything will be alright blablaa"... well I don't think so. You can't turn her into a sexbeast if she isn't meant to be and if it does, it could take years perhaps. You can't predict how a virgin will evolve and you take a gamble. You have to be patient with her.

For men like me with a high sexdrive and who used to fuck slutty and promiscuous women who were great at sex, it can be headaches to be with a virgin. It is on the sexual level a risky invesment. You can read my story with my virgin 9 girlfriend for details... Anyway...

[Comte De St. Germain]

9 if I could get sole custody of the child in case of separation.

6 in general but she'd have to have a pretty face and skinny. Small tits and no ass would have to be the compensation paid for that I guess but I wouldn't mind.

I'd marry for genes and loyalty though genes>loyalty if I had to pick.

[RedPillUK]

I'm gonna go against the general consensus here and say I would take the slutty 9 easily.

A 9 that is also incredible in bed would be almost impossible for me to turn down. When I think deeply and honestly about it, it's because I still desire amazing sex more than I desire having a nice faithful wife and kids. That animalistic strong desire to fuck the 9 who's incredible in bed is much more motivating to me. I would rather have the slutty, experienced 9 and all the drama that comes with it, than trying to teach a virgin 6 to enjoy sucking my dick.

I know this about myself judging on my actions in the past and present, although the novelty of amazing sex is starting to wear off, so in the future that opinion might change. I'm still in my twenties.

[Darkwing Buck]

(07-24-2017 12:57 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

I want my children to have good genes and be strong, healthy and attractive so...

I would never do my children the disservice of having a slut or a whore for a mother if I could avoid it. Especially bad if you have a daughter because no matter how hard she tries to avoid it, a woman will somehow impart that slut nature onto your daughter. It's why one of the main parts of wife hunting is meeting and evaluating the mother.

Gimme the 6 any day of the week. Far less damaging for my future kids.

Not to mention it's been scientifically proven that women with higher n counts are far more likely to divorce. Marrying a slut is like guaranteeing a divorce and having your money and assets completely raped somwhere down the line. Why any man would knowingly marry a whore in 2017 or later with all the information we have on hypergamy, sluts, and red pill shit I truly cannot fathom.

(07-24-2017 11:28 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

I'm gonna go against the general consensus here and say I would take the slutty 9 easily.

A 9 that is also incredible in bed would be almost impossible for me to turn down. When I think deeply and honestly about it, it's because I still desire amazing sex more than I desire having a nice faithful wife and kids. That animalistic strong desire to fuck the 9 who's incredible in bed is much more motivating to me. I would rather have the slutty, experienced 9 and all the drama that comes with it, than trying to teach a virgin 6 to enjoy sucking my dick.

I know this about myself judging on my actions in the past and present, although the novelty of amazing sex is starting to wear off, so in the future that opinion might change. I'm still in my twenties.

Yeah but this thread is about marriage. Marriage strongly implies children. Fuck being tied down to a slut. Once a slut always a slut. You think a ring or some crying brat will stop a slut's a true nature?

If you're that obsessed with hot women you might as well marry the 6 and visit escorts on your alone time. I don't understand guys who willingly would enter drama or serious trouble just because a girl has a pretty face.