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07-23-2017, 03:17 AM
Quote: (07-23-2017 03:00 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:
But, it's all good, because people like this skinny-fat Quebecois loser with Thai 5 wife got to play pretend for a while in Lambos before off-ing themselves.
Damn, was she really a 5?
I think he got whacked though. Suicide with a towel indeed. That seems a little too resourceful for a guy that couldn't get CCTVs in his compound, or a guy that left a paper trail and didn't have a killswitch on his operation.
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07-23-2017, 03:28 AM
^Speaking of which... is anyone on the forum qualified to drop an Identity Theft protection datasheet? I see these services like Lifelock offered but I feel its just a scam.
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07-23-2017, 03:30 AM
Quote: (07-23-2017 03:28 AM)RIslander Wrote:
Speaking of which... is anyone on the forum qualified to drop an Identity Theft protection datasheet?
Just read NTP's posting history with a sceptical eye & you'll be fine.
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07-23-2017, 04:08 AM
Just to be clear - and I would hope that this clarification isn't necessary - but I do not take any pleasure in any man's death, and certainly not a man who passed through our small corner of the world and may have helped some dudes in some way.
But, at the same time, I do not like the glorification of what in reality are the damaging actions of an ultimately troubled man. There is nothing in his actions to admire or respect.
I can certainly understand why some younger members may look at the lifestyle he lived - which, in all reality, was pretty crappy beyond material items - and admire it in some way. Who doesn't want some of those things? But this isn't a tv show, this isn't Breaking Bad and he wasn't Walter White selling to meth heads in order to pay for cancer treatment and support his family. These were destructive actions for no positive or worthwhile gain, they were for vanity. And hell, he didn't even have an enviable life or make the most of it when it was going good.
Perhaps my words were slightly harsh, but as I said I have seen the results of such crimes and they are devastating. Devastating to good and honest people who are actually hustling.
I have spoken to and got to know members off of the forum and you would not believe what some of these great dudes do in real life and what they have achieved. And they have done so in a legit way not causing harm to others, while also helping others accomplish goals and reach higher heights. These are the men who should be associated with the word "respect".
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07-23-2017, 04:43 AM
Do you think he had any idea he was being watched or followed? Any clue at all? Did he read the stories on the fall of Silk Road? He had to of known that he had become an enemy of the state (although a rather low one) and that they would come for him. Did he not read about Snowden? Or any of these recent releases and realize the full extent of nation-state electronic surveillance? Did he think somehow it wouldn't apply to him? His head was so far buried in the sand he didn't even see it coming...
Now imagine the federal investigators (DEA?)- you know they had a government-sanctioned account on here as part of their operation, and they would monitor all his posts as part of their sting while they built up evidence and developed a psychological profile. Who knows, maybe they even tried to meet up with him via the forum (although based on his penchant for expensive villas and cars and bank accounts all in his real name, an actual meetup was probably not necessary). A more likely operation would have been the classic honey-trap. It would have been easy to catch a playboy with a little honey (or in this case, some "post fertility" honey, and then use it to gather evidence or blackmail.
I don't quite understand the suicide part. Was he afraid to face the music, and couldn't think of losing it all? Did he think of going from being a "playboy" to never sleeping with another woman again- EVER- and that push him over the edge? In all likelihood it would have gone the same way as the Silk Road guy- hey maybe they could have been cell mates. People will like to think it was an inside job- that someone had him erased- but I am never surprised by levels of incompetence. The jail staff were probably too laid back / not doing their job and did not check up on his cell regularly.
And before you guys go on with the hero worship (since facilitating the sale of every form of drug, weapons for criminals, fraud, and stealing the common man's identity and putting him through hell is an honorable undertaking for the location independent player)- realize that he put the reputation of the forum at risk (and the fallout from that is not done), and probably put individual members at risk as well. They will be looking at his associates trying to figure out who else had a hand in running this, or perhaps was involved on the money laundering side, especially if you had phone contact with him. For those of you that text with him, I wouldn't be surprised if you get flagged just for the hell of it, and for the rest of time whenever you fly in our out of certain countries you might get an extra hassle with customs. Once you get flagged, you are always flagged.
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07-23-2017, 05:25 AM
I'm not going to dance on anyone's grave here, but GlobalMan is right on this one. Where do we draw the line of what's acceptable to finance a player's lifestyle? Credit card theft? People trafficking? Child prostitution? Perhaps people who engage in these sorts of things have value to others in their life, may post useful and intelligent info on various forums...but I'd still want the FBI to take them down for their crimes.
This reminds me of way back in my early twenties when my best friend and I were involved in all sorts of illegal stuff that I obviously cannot discuss here. Long and short of it is that I realised we were way in over our heads, and I pulled out. My best friend stayed in and went onwards and upwards, blinded by the easy money (not $23 mill, but still serious cash by anyone's standards). He phoned me whilst in the middle of doing something so totally illegal and out of character, with people who were genuinely dangerous, and I talked him out of it. He didn't like it, thought I was a square and it cost him social capital with these people, but three months later he was completely out of it. He and his family are eternally grateful to me for using my influence with him to get him out of that situation, as we all know he'd be dead by now without his best friend looking out for him. Perhaps that is what Alex was missing: someone to put his hand on his shoulder, and say "Mate, it's time to get out".
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07-23-2017, 07:41 AM
Frankly the way the western security apparatus is so overburdened with terror suspects these day I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason he made the fed's shitlist was that it came to a point where too many of his customers had the first or last name Mohammed.
I'm actually surprised in a sense that Uncle Sam didn't approach him and make him an offer he couldn't refuse rather than nuking the site and slamming him in a cell.
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07-23-2017, 07:55 AM
It's funny, when I found out he was married, I figured, "at least his wife was probably hot" and then saw the photos, and yikes!
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07-23-2017, 08:04 AM
Just my 2 euro cents here...
Should we honor or should we shit on? Nothing changes the fact that a man is dead and he is not here to explain his actions. But we can analyze what he has said in this forum.
Someone had brought up the Thai datasheet and the bragging of the fortunes of the forum member in question. One post asked how he got this fortune and the forum member in question, in laymans terms, said "mind your own f***ing business". Now i have friends who i have known for over 2 decades. If he started to bring lamborginis home with lots of houses (even in Thailand) I would want to know where he got the money from. If he said "mind your own f***ing business" I would presume he is either robbing a bank or selling drugs, in other words doing something illegal.
If he has helped anyone here then he should be honored as a good but flawed forum member. I would also consider the idea of what else he may have lied about either explicitly or by omission mainly because of the one comment i spoke of above. In addition, a part of the red pill is not having to brag about "things" you have. It seems he had taken the red pill at one time but this "activity" may have retrograded this practice at certain points in his life....and this applies whether his activities were legal or not.
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07-23-2017, 09:47 AM
I've read a lot of crap in this thread, let me clear a few points up.
First and foremost Alex was a weird guy, not the going out party or even go to the bar type. Meet him a couple of times whilst I was living in Bangkok.
He's obviously an incredibly gifted programmer, everyone is jumping all over him calling him an idiot etc. I agree his opsec was piss poor.
Leaving his personal email address on a header or something was very silly, basically fucked before he started.
Nothing after this really mattered, it was the single piece of evidence that tied him to alphabay. The fact that the criminal complaint discussed his posting on here was nothing more than the FBI sure'ing up there case against him. Simply, after they got his email address it was all over.
But yes I would totally agree living in Bangkok for one was silly, at least base yourself in a country that doesn't extradite people to the US (Russia?). The thais are hard on drugs and pliable when it comes to America.
Further to this I think he just got over his head, seems like he was running a one man band with a few extra helpers doing admin on the platform. This was just a likely to fuck him in the long run as he didn't have anyone to sound ideas off. He also never changed servers, not wise. But as I said before it really didn't matter.
Lastly, what I believe got him into this situation. The attractive of being sought after. He striked as if his only motivation in life was to bed thai girls, use to write guides on how to pull high so girls whilst bedding some seriously low hanging fruit.
Anyway rest in peace brother.
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07-23-2017, 11:06 AM
^The only way around it is to gain citizenship in a country with no extradition policy.
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07-23-2017, 11:06 AM
To be straight, I take an interest in this "how to survive on the run" stuff because Hillary was about >< this close to winning the election, and it's not as it we're out of the woods yet, either.
Many millions of people throughout history have had to flee from the long arm of the law, and statistically speaking most of them never did anything wrong except have the wrong politics or simply exist in the wrong place at the wrong time.
So the question of what Cazes might have done is not necessarily purely academic.
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