[Roosh]

(06-26-2017 08:01 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Dude gets plenty of hate for his weirdness. But quite frankly. His analysis is spot on as usual.

Is he transitioning?

[Transsimian]

(06-27-2017 12:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 08:01 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Dude gets plenty of hate for his weirdness. But quite frankly. His analysis is spot on as usual.

Is he transitioning?

Maybe

[debeguiled]

(06-27-2017 12:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Is he transitioning?

He transitioned from Christian:




To satanist:



Something about throwing away your spiritual beliefs takes the human look out of your face, and makes you look buglike:

[nomadbrah]

(06-27-2017 10:35 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

For them, the goal is self improvement, discipline, and living a good and virtuous life; followed by trying to increase the virtue in their neighbours, through gentle advice and good example; while ultimately attempting to understand and study the traditions of our ancestors, in the acknowledgement of the excellence that these traditions offered.

Obligatory reading in that regard:





Julius Evola of course was hugely influential on the fascist movement and nazi movement alike, but unlike both, he didn't get destroyed.

Of course tradition is impossible in a truly multi-cultural, multi-ethnic world. Tradition by itself is discriminatory.

Multi-culturalism and multi-ethnicism is the death of tradition and distinctiveness.

The sustainable future is separate but co-operating cultures with some multi-cultural centres, but recognized as the exception to the rule, not the ideal for everyone. Not exactly a novel concept, but greatly triggering to many.

[Ghost Tiger]

(06-27-2017 01:45 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 12:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Is he transitioning?

He transitioned from Christian:

To satanist:

He reminds me of Gilfoyle from Silicon Valley.

[TigerMandingo]

^^^ I love that no matter how many times dudes try to promote that guy's videos on the forum we still reject him based on his looks and overall weirdness

[Roosh]

(06-27-2017 02:54 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

^^^ I love that no matter how many times dudes try to promote that guy's videos on the forum we still reject him based on his looks and overall weirdness

Someone who voluntarily chooses to present himself like that publicly can't possibly share the same world view as us. If a guy showed up like that to an RVF meetup we would immediately think he's antifa or an SJW.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Satanistic Atheism is obviously not a good alternative.

He should take a lesson from his idol - looks as if Lucifer is working out:



His feminine mannerisms and speech patterns don't help either. Also I can guarantee him that he would get laid more.

[Tactician]

^ Lucifer has good Bicep and Delt development, but his pecs are lacking. He makes up for it with his gigantic Lats.

[Blaster]

Vox Day comments on this: https://www.periscope.tv/voxday/1PlKQAaRVwvKE

In addition to discussing his distinction between Alt-White and Alt-Right, he breaks the alt-lite down into 3 subgroups.

1. The idealists. They essentially believe that identity politics can be transcended-- that racial and ethnic identity groups do not have political interests. Vox believes that once ethnic identities enter politics there's no going back, and predicts that reality will eventually set in for this group. Personally I think this is excessively pessimistic but he does have a point. I think we can accept the reality of identity politics while still advocating for the individual and the nuclear family.

2. The identity-complicated. These are people identity conflicts, such as a family member of a different race or ethnicity. They're unwilling to throw in with ethnic nationalism because it would divide their family. Vox predicts that eventually the divisions will be forced, that this group will have to make a choice eventually, using the example of a biracial child embracing one identity, alienating one parent. He advises patience and compassion for this group, there's not point hounding them as these can be difficult situations to cope with.

3. The cuckservatives. These are the dishonest, virtue-signaling types. They are hopeless and while not exactly SJWs there's nothing to lose by taking shots at them.

[Blaster]

Also I noticed on Pax's twitter feed that he accuses Cernovich of treating him fairly badly and dishonestly. He pinpoints the change in Cernovich's general behavior to be around the time he got it into his head that he wanted to run for office someday, which is quite recently. I don't see any reason for Pax to lie and I don't get the impression that he's taking cheap shots at Cerno when he brings it up. It seems like he genuinely feels he's been wronged and is upset that Cerno did not apologize.

Personally I have not noticed a change perhaps until now, but then I haven't followed him as closely as I did during the election.

[wi30]

(06-27-2017 02:54 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

^^^ I love that no matter how many times dudes try to promote that guy's videos on the forum we still reject him based on his looks and overall weirdness

I'm convinced he's one of the forum members who consistently post his videos.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-27-2017 03:30 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(06-27-2017 02:54 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

^^^ I love that no matter how many times dudes try to promote that guy's videos on the forum we still reject him based on his looks and overall weirdness

Someone who voluntarily chooses to present himself like that publicly can't possibly share the same world view as us. If a guy showed up like that to an RVF meetup we would immediately think he's antifa or an SJW.

Well - he did go on air with feminine makeup at least once:



It may have been a stunt, but he has to realize that when Steven Crowder does it to troll feminists, then we can overlook this:



When feminine stick-figures who don't get laid much do it, then it is highly different.

[armenia4ever]

I actually stumbled on to his channel via a reference from Forney and his analysis' have been spot on everyone. He's fair, but doesn't virtue signal.

I dont believe he's not an occultist anymore, though he still has an interest in it.

He still dressed quite odd - to put it nicely.

[Elster]

He looks weird as hell,typical goth though I doubt he is that old.
But fair is fair and must concede his analysis is pretty objective all in all.

@ Armenia4ever: He still does occult videos and often engages in video replies with the Varg man himself!

[metalfan20]

If we all consider the fact the alt movements are running their course like the TEA party did. Many people that were proponents of the alt-right are stepping away. Both the Tea party and the alt-right/lite have completely different demographics. The reason the Tea party didn't have staying power is they were all old people and they failed to attract younger members to mentor for leadership. They focus was also short sided, basically just a bunch of people concerned that Obama was going to tax them to death. With the election of Donald Trump the Alt-right is losing relevance.

What I would propose is a new unified right. That's focus is more offensive than defensive. I have come up with a couple of working tenants.

1. The needs and interests of the American people come first.

2. PC culture is a threat to civil liberties and the overall morale of country. We must be proactive in opposing PC culture.

3. Americans must have the opportunity to live an independent life free from the nanny state. Meaningful job creation is the most important means of achieving this goal.

4. Americans have the right to defend themselves from harm. Gun control is unacceptable and not up for debate.

5. Americans must be taught, from a young age to appreciate their country and it's culture. Nationalism based on race doesn't necessarily work for our country (It may work for Europe though).

6. Christianity played and continues to play a role in shaping our values and laws. It's important for non-Christians to understand that. Sharia Law has no place in America.

7. Withdrawal from the UN is necessary for securing the best interests of the people. We do not recognize the world court or other international entities that impose their will on our people.

8. The borders must be secure.

9. War is permissible as long as it is in the best interest of people and the security of the nation.

10. Education reform is needed for job creation and combating PC culture.

11. Health care is a service not a right. Tort reform however could dramatically cut the cost of healthcare.

So far that's what I have.

[Aurini]

(06-28-2017 03:22 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  

What I would propose is a new unified right. That's focus is more offensive than defensive. I have come up with a couple of working tenants.

From my piece on the topic:

But let’s say you wanted to form an adventuring party in real life. What would you do? Well, you might research Privateer Charters, Knightly Codes, and Pirate Constitutions for some organizational inspiration, but before you even start putting the party together, you first need to find two things:

A dragon to slay, and:
A source of funding.

With your goal and funding in place (even if it’s just the loot from slaying the dragon) you can now start forming your party; you can lay out the responsibilities, the expected standards of behaviour, and the dedication you expect from each member. Absent the dragon and gold, however, all you have is a social club.

And what inevitably happens in a social club?

Take a group of people – any group of people – and if they lack an explicit purpose for associating, as well as a command and control system to make sure that purpose doesn’t waver, their identity will eventually boil down to the lowest common denominator. And the lowest common denominator for any group is usually the fact that they’re not that other group. Their identity will become something reactionary and negative; by defining themselves as the opposite of that which they oppose, they will eventually allow that other group to define who they are. Often enough, their opposition will do the same thing. Soon enough, you have two groups who are mirror images of one another, fighting one another, and whatever principles or goals that might have started the two groups, are quickly reduced to nothing but slogans, and their former leaders are vilified for holding them back from the fray.

...

While I agree with the points you listed, the points on their own will inevitably become their own contradiction.

[LEMONed IScream]

Dude hasn't been a Satanist for about 5 years or so. Made a video about that recently. Sure. He looks weird as fuck. But he's quite smart and when it comes to his predictions they're also pretty solid. I understand that it might be off putting but does someone even try to rebut anything or shall we just comment for the 500000000th time on how weird he is?

[Kona]

(06-28-2017 08:03 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Dude hasn't been a Satanist for about 5 years or so.

Aloha!

[CynicalContrarian]

Humour :

Mike Cernovich Retweeted

[url=https://twitter.com/sotomaque/status/880245876698083328][/url]

[Leonard D Neubache]

To be fair, the Tea Party died out because it was populated entirely by boomers who realised that taxation without representation of the younger generations was part and parcel of keeping their retirement benefits coming in.

You'll know what a real tea party movement looks like when a bunch of millenials sink an inbound Chinese freighter full of adult diapers.

[wi30]

(06-28-2017 08:03 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Dude hasn't been a Satanist for about 5 years or so. Made a video about that recently. Sure. He looks weird as fuck. But he's quite smart and when it comes to his predictions they're also pretty solid. I understand that it might be off putting but does someone even try to rebut anything or shall we just comment for the 500000000th time on how weird he is?

It's because no one clicks on the videos. Book by the cover and all that.

Why hear out someone retarded enough to become a satanist at any point in their life? Would you ask a "reformed" pedophile for parenting advice?

[Leonard D Neubache]

^Agree.

There are millions of people yacking about this and that on Youtube. Nobody owes it to this guy to rebut his points or even give him the time of day (a view in this instance).

I've known guys like this. They treat their "unique image" as some sort of purity test for everyone around them, that if someone is a genuine truth seeker then they will ignore all physical aspects of a person and focus 100% on what that person says rather than what they do.

It's pure wank and I'm not going to add to the view count of anyone engaging in such nonsense.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-29-2017 02:37 AM)wi30 Wrote:  

(06-28-2017 08:03 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Dude hasn't been a Satanist for about 5 years or so. Made a video about that recently. Sure. He looks weird as fuck. But he's quite smart and when it comes to his predictions they're also pretty solid. I understand that it might be off putting but does someone even try to rebut anything or shall we just comment for the 500000000th time on how weird he is?

It's because no one clicks on the videos. Book by the cover and all that.

Why hear out someone retarded enough to become a satanist at any point in their life? Would you ask a "reformed" pedophile for parenting advice?

I know Goths working in IT and having IQs beyond 150.

But those Goths did it for kicks and some kind of bizarre fetish, they did not join Satanism. Also they were more masculine and they actually got laid with goth chicks - there is a subset of girls who are into it.

That very same guy would come off completely different if he started to lift 3-5 times a week. He could even dress exactly the same and the reaction to him would be different.

[sterling_archer]

Its interesting that he doesn't have at least a bit of muscle. Complete ectomorph. Also he is vegan I think.