[Buddydowrongright2]

(05-16-2019 06:58 AM)flipper78 Wrote:  

Spaniard in Germany is 100 % right. I am 41, living in Berlin but I grew up in SW-Germany.
foreigners from muslim countries are looked down upon (no wonder...). Latin men have a good reputation for the German women. All others will have it difficult. Nevertheless I dont like German women because they feel entitled and are not well dressed etc. The good things in Germany are:
- it is very well organised and has relatively little corruption
- there are many foreign women (in Berlin many Russians). Howver, also many muslim women are here who dont accept non-muslims
- not only foreigners get a cold treatment by German women; also Germans get it. It took me years and many travels to understand that elsewhere women can be nice and feminine. I am always shocked when I leave Germany and women suddenly show interest in me and are flirtatious, e.g. in France.

So I also dont understand why so many foreigners come here. The only reason is for work and medical treatment. The rest sucks more or less.

German girls in my experience are some of the worst on the planet. Not in terms of looks - many of them are hot, with tall, thin, blonde, blue eyes, big tits - but in terms of partner potential/personality. I'd take an American or even a British heffalumps any day of the week over one of those ice queens.

[semibaron]

(05-16-2019 02:04 PM)Buddydowrongright2 Wrote:  

German girls in my experience are some of the worst on the planet. Not in terms of looks - many of them are hot, with tall, thin, blonde, blue eyes, big tits - but in terms of partner potential/personality. I'd take an American or even a British heffalumps any day of the week over one of those ice queens.

From what I've seen, there is a larger spread in quality of girls in the US. There are far more genuine 0-3s roaming around, but I've also met some really cute ones who were a pleasure to be around with. German girls tend to be in the 4-6 range and usually never have enjoyable personalities.

[flipper78]

Well, if you think western German are bad then you should never visit the eastern German countryside. You will see a lot of green or pink haired fat women which like German right-wing music! They are also very straight forward and like to walk around naked at home (this is a typical eastern German thing). Oh well life is bitter

[bigbadpua]

German girls can be a pain in the ass. Im a German too, whenever I daygame a girl here in Riga, and she turns out to be a German (Medical or Erasmus students are here in droves) I sigh internally and know that I cant win this set. Hot they can be for sure. Not all or most, but still a lot.

[Bill Oreilly]

Well the general idea is that German girls are ugly. Either way, even though there are pretty ones, they are on average pretty masculine.

[Parzival]

I can swipe right all my possibility of likes at tinder and not get a single match for days here in Germany. When I get a match and the girl is decent looking the conversation is stiff, if ever happen one at all. High also matter a lot. I get once a German girlfriend over tinder but most matches had be foreign girls.
I'm German by myself, fit and have a good job. My high is with 175 cm not on the tinder wish list, also I'm bald. More success I have over social circle but unfortunately a lot of my friends are married and go to clubs is not for my pleasure. Even there it is hard but you can get with some effort one but they run a list in their head all the time and when you fail a criteria, no matter how stupid, you are out. Forever. They are programmed like robots with expectations on life, on themselves, on men. Images of illusion but there you come with reality and one thing will not be accepted. Its you. Now in my mid 30s and there they are, over 30 and looking for a decent guy for family. They didn't run a long list of sleep around those German women, just they did sort everyone out. On the other side you have those couples that meet at young age and spent their whole life together. Seems like those are the most common women here, the ones that meet their guy super early and stick with him almost forever or the ones that are extreme picky.

When I'm abroad, Moscow, Japan, Brasil, Mexio, Peru, even in most other european countries its a way more easy. The women wonder when I tell them here in Germany its hard to get a woman, that you have long periods of no woman at all as a German men. Prostitution is legal here and you can also find it everywhere. This is for a certain reason. I have up long ago to ask why. First I thought its me, improve my looks, my life, everything. And a German woman will not even look with her back at you. When you are in a social circle and look around at the single ones and ask them, they have no clue what they do. They run their stupid lists in their minds, reject everyone, act cold and sometimes mean. Only nice when you know them personal and then it takes such a long time till they realise - wow yeah this guy is actual decent so I will go out with him. Imagine you searching for gold, you have to wash a lot of water in the river till you get lucky.

Of course you have your number of sluts too. Get pregnant early, hang around at certain clubs, fall for the lover boy nonsense (arab/ turkish guys promise teen girls love) or they are just into black guys. As a black, when you are a decent guy it is mostly hard too. The only way to get laid more easy is get a chubby lower German girl that just is into the player / hip hop lifestyle.
Since social circle is so strong, her friends are always around to prevent any interaction for sure, even when you do a normal decent approach. Even when she likes it, be sure you have to fight of her female friends with their man hate.

I had only one German girlfriend in my life - sad but true - and I'm happy that the relationship is over. So much negativity was hard to handle.

[kirdiesel]

Its been almost 3 years since I dropped my last thread on Germany based out of NRW. ***If you want to talk about Berlin as being Germany please click out of the thread now***

Two things matter here the most in my eyes.

Race and SMV (game included)

German girls are some of the pickiest girls I have met between the countries around here and in the Benelux area (Found Dutch girls the easiest).

Once they are interested they really arent hard to game but there is a MASSIVE Trench between interest and non-interest and they are very hard to convert when they are aren't interested.

In my opinion.... white guys who are tall with fair features will do the best here. My LTR has a group of 6 girls she hangs out with and she tells me whats going on often which gives me insight into how these girls tick. The most stuck up one of them has a boyfriend who looks like Ryan Gosling and its these types of guys and man bun wearers who do the best out here.

If you aren't white its a negative and your SMV is going to have to pickup the slack. No one will openly say this but its 100% true. I have seen how girls fawn over white men (German or not) and hold them to different standard then minorities. I mean it is Germany but still.. Its not like this in NL but thats for another thread.

Black guys do have a tiny niche market of what I call brother lovers but these are usually young college girls 19 - 22 or so and are only to be found in very limited clubs. Some of these girls are trashy and have a fetish as well but not all. Some are just following the latest Kim K trend and shit like that.

Asian guys are BARELY out here and I haven't heard anything good about them from the local women or even seen them do any real damage.

No idea how Latin guys do since I never go to Latin clubs and I am not going to talk about things I know nothing about. Again you don't see or meet much of them out here anyway.

Generally where I am at there are White guys (natives), Turkish guys and Black guys.

Who does well in Germany:

1. Tall, Fair featured White men. 5,10 is probably the minimum but of course the taller the better. Blond hair, Beards and bright Blue eyes will give you bonus points. (Best Case scenario)

2. (THIS IS A GUESS). Black guys who follow the bad boy stereotype. Again Tall and follow the stereotypes they see on American TV and the rap videos. Tats and swag to match it. Probably need a well well thought out Tinder with topless pics, abs and shit like that. You could probably also pull off the alternative black guy type as well and stick to alternative type girls since they are easier but quality will be lacking (in my opinion). I don't care who disagrees with me here.. there are some diamonds in the rough but most of the alternative girls are bunk!

Educated, business and well to do black man doesn't work here AT ALL. The girls aren't checking you for that.

3. Not ghetto or "assi" Turkish guys - I have also seen German girls fawn over well integrated and well mannered Turkish guys as well. I don't know a ton about this but they behave or look somewhat similar to the native German guys and they will pull as well.

Social Circle.

I think social circle works here and I have banged off of it but what happens is the girls choose the native German guys first and you get whatever left overs they throw at you. German girls will again DEFAULT to the native German guy unless you have the aformentioned features.

Its smarter to run Tinder and Club Game. Despite what you are hearing throughout the forum about social media killing the nightlife I can ASSURE YOU that it has not affected night game here one bit. Guys DO NOT have Instagram or Snapchat like that and club game pulls are still 100% doable and possible with SNL ON THE TABLE.

Parzival mentioned that he's 5,7 and Bald and I am honestly not surprised he's struggling (NOT HATING AT ALL) because he doesn't fit into the criteria I mentioned above. For him to overcome that in Germany is going to a massive challenge that will take seriously making up on the SMV side.

This is why Germany is a VERY BAD place to game...

If you are outside of the criteria I mentioned you CAN and WILL bang girls but mostly of the lower levels. 5s and to 7s AT BEST.

Anything above that get ready to go to WAR for it.

[Parzival]

(05-19-2019 04:35 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Parzival mentioned that he's 5,7 and Bald and I am honestly not surprised he's struggling (NOT HATING AT ALL) because he doesn't fit into the criteria I mentioned above. For him to overcome that in Germany is going to a massive challenge that will take seriously making up on the SMV side.

This is why Germany is a VERY BAD place to game...

If you are outside of the criteria I mentioned you CAN and WILL bang girls but mostly of the lower levels. 5s and to 7s AT BEST.

Anything above that get ready to go to WAR for it.

I'm in good shape, have a successful job, my life in check and the struggle is real. In other countries I get a lot of comments and attention from girls, can pull girls with a 12 to 15 year age difference (younger). They comment how masculine and still gentleman I'm. They think I slay it in Germany or should be long married.
Here my ex girlfriend just believed after months in our relationship that I'm not some right wing skinhead. German women run lists in their mind for everything, no idea where this comes from and they are mostly not even aware of this. This set them under permanent stress. In other countries women can have jobs and a family, here in Germany they stress themselves out with those overly perfect images about themselves, their live and relationship.

Either you fit in what she likes and expect or its almost impossible. At school, university or work you have the possibility that she is neutral to you first and over months or sometimes years she realize you can be a man for her. Don't go to fast or its over.
On the other side, like kirdiesel say, when she is into you its almost like a free pass. You have your space, your freedom, she accept a lot of the things you do, sexual open and can be a great support.

[kirdiesel]

(05-19-2019 05:04 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

(05-19-2019 04:35 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Parzival mentioned that he's 5,7 and Bald and I am honestly not surprised he's struggling (NOT HATING AT ALL) because he doesn't fit into the criteria I mentioned above. For him to overcome that in Germany is going to a massive challenge that will take seriously making up on the SMV side.

This is why Germany is a VERY BAD place to game...

If you are outside of the criteria I mentioned you CAN and WILL bang girls but mostly of the lower levels. 5s and to 7s AT BEST.

Anything above that get ready to go to WAR for it.

I'm in good shape, have a successful job, my life in check and the struggle is real. In other countries I get a lot of comments and attention from girls, can pull girls with a 12 to 15 year age difference (younger). They comment how masculine and still gentleman I'm. They think I slay it in Germany or should be long married.
Here my ex girlfriend just believed after months in our relationship that I'm not some right wing skinhead. German women run lists in their mind for everything, no idea where this comes from and they are mostly not even aware of this. This set them under permanent stress. In other countries women can have jobs and a family, here in Germany they stress themselves out with those overly perfect images about themselves, their live and relationship.

Either you fit in what she likes and expect or its almost impossible. At school, university or work you have the possibility that she is neutral to you first and over months or sometimes years she realize you can be a man for her. Don't go to fast or its over.
On the other side, like kirdiesel say, when she is into you its almost like a free pass. You have your space, your freedom, she accept a lot of the things you do, sexual open and can be a great support.

Thank for your reply man.

Good job and good shape isn't enough out here when you don't have "the look" they want. Any race other than white or deficiencies in the looks department is heavily punished.

Top 20% SMV of white and top 2% of "other than white" will do well. Frankly, when you have those stats you could get better in other countries with less work.. so it just doesnt make sense to come..

This is HIGH SMV country for Men. It does make things easier when you leave here and game in other countries. It almost seems like someone took a 200kg barbell off your chest.

The biggest barrier isn't even really game or talking to them either. Its the looks more than anything. Once you hook them, its don't fuck up game and you are having sex either the same night or date 2.

I will be once again be honest and say that there are some SUPER hot girls here and after pushing a decade I still don't understand where the behavior comes from.

[Zoso]

Oh really?

As a 5'11'' latino guy, I was thinking about going there in one year (while saving money) to smash pussies all over there...

[MrRoundtree]

(05-19-2019 06:02 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

Oh really?

As a 5'11'' latino guy, I was thinking about going there in one year (while saving money) to smash pussies all over there...

Just from some latino guys I know, they are just slightly more brown than white guys (more brown, look latino) ad they both slayed students in Germany. They were 22-23 though. I don't know how is it there with older women.


I facetimed my two buddies and they were always with a new girl in bed and even had a devils threesome.

[kirdiesel]

(05-19-2019 06:02 PM)Zoso Wrote:  

Oh really?

As a 5'11'' latino guy, I was thinking about going there in one year (while saving money) to smash pussies all over there...

Berlin (maybe) rest of Germany I'd say stay away but you can always come and see for yourself.

Come spend a week straight trying to game and get into clubs and see how you are treated by women and bouncers at doors.

It will really depend on how you look. 5,11 is solid height but without knowing how you look I couldn't tell you..

Like I said... Come give it a shot. No harm in that.

[Parzival]

(05-19-2019 05:30 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

This is HIGH SMV country for Men. It does make things easier when you leave here and game in other countries. It almost seems like someone took a 200kg barbell off your chest.

German men have the image to be well mannered, handsome, dress well. That's what I get. And when girls get to know that a lot of them single or get rejected they believe its a myth. The same when they wonder why I don't have every day sex with different women. Those men would slay it everywhere.
There are for sure some guys that do pretty well in Germany, but for the rest its either you are lucky to get the girl from your school days and the stay in shape or you struggle. My first time abroad open a new world for me, and after many more times abroad I know the issue is not with me.

And even more strange, the German women are not happy either. All their rejection is a typical German thing. You see this at the job market as well. So you don't find someone? Rise the standards more and more, reject everyone for the slightest thing off.
When you look like Spanish/ Italian latino then you can have some success. Also interesting thing, the German girl will stick with her chubby sweetheart from school days longer then then she would go for the tall and handsome guy she don't has some social interaction with.

[Endless Escapes]

(05-16-2019 03:00 PM)flipper78 Wrote:  

Well, if you think western German are bad then you should never visit the eastern German countryside. You will see a lot of green or pink haired fat women which like German right-wing music! They are also very straight forward and like to walk around naked at home (this is a typical eastern German thing). Oh well life is bitter

Really? Lool, that's pretty hot, isn't it?

[flipper78]

Well, as I have stated above, I agree with you that German women are horrible. I also agree that they run lists in their head. I once had a girlfriend, she was 39 (I was 33 at that time) and she was maybe a 6 out of 10. Nevertheless, she complained about my deficiencies, e.g. she said that the rings below my eyes need to disappear, she asked a lot about my salary and other status related questions. On the other hand, she did not have very much to offer (I have a Ph.D., she didn't even study...etc.). Well, that's how German women are.

Now, for two years now, I live at kurfürstendamm in Berlin, where many rich people live. I noticed that I get somewhat more attention by the women when i go e.g. drink coffee in that area (e.g. Fasanenstraße, Kurfürstendamm, Bleibtreustraß...e). I think its only because they assume I have lots of money (which I have, otherwise I could not live there). Also many russian gold diggers roam in that area. Well its like everywhere, Women want a man with status/money. The thing in Germany is that also women who cannot offer very much have high standards. But on the other hand, you cannot generalise, there are still some who are ok (but I dont know where they are)

[Fahrenheit]

I grew up in East Germany and agree that most German women are very picky (doesn't mean they have much to offer, even the ugly ones have high standards). But even if you have very good looks, you're still treated as a weirdo as soon as you approach them on the street. No matter what kind of car you drive, which clothes you're wearing or how exotic you are (especially after the refugee crisis).

They just aren't used to it and also are very shy.

IMO the only effective way to get laid in Germany is through having a big social circle. But trust me it's not worth the time.

[Spaniard in Germany]

(05-20-2019 04:54 PM)Fahrenheit Wrote:  

IMO the only effective way to get laid in Germany is through having a big social circle. But trust me it's not worth the time.

This is it Parzival and Kirdiesel. Stop thinking, this is it. I was friends with an ugly 5foot6 bald dyel whose girlfriend was a stunning blond fit cutie. Why? SOCIAL CIRCLE. I have seen too many of these instances everywhere. And why is that? Because german women have no capacity for independent thinking. They do what they think will fit in the hivemind. For that reason DO NOT SELFIMPROVE IN ORDER TO GET GERMAN WOMEN, because the problem is not you, the problem is them not being able to think independently.

I mean it is not like women in general think for themselves, but it is extremely present in girls born in Germany or who moved to Germany at an early age. So it is not a race or religious thing, the Turks and Bosnians are also playing games the whole time. Poles will flake. Russians say one thing and do another. Italians act all interested and then go cold. French are all friendly and then backstab you. IT IS NOT A RACE THING, it is as if the geographical mental bubble of Germany turn women into monsters unable of being feminine. German girls who happen to move to other countries seem to suddenly be relieved of their burden of never showing any interest and insulting or even physically confronting you (this happened to me several times in clubs).

So what is the solution? Semen retention and visiting prostitutes occasionally. I mean if you can get sex for "free" (at the end costs the same because of oil, restaurants, time, effort, also being uncertain of ever getting sex) with a "honest girl" it is also ok but beware of the possible legal harassment or possible STDs (yes, visiting prostitutes is less likely to give you diseases in the current climate).

They are all whores, only you have the ones that go around in uniform (prostitutes) and the ones who are on covert mission (honest wimin that neeeever cheat, neeever lie, neeeever flake, neeeever monkeybranch….). I hope this forum would start waking up to the cold reality, but it seems they will not because it is beautiful to think that the romantic scene is something you can control. Like in that scene of Matrix, when Morpheus asks why Neo does not believe in destiny, he says "because I prefer to think that I can control my life". WELL GUYS TOUGH SHIT; THIS TIME WE CANNOT CONTROL IT. You cannot talk girls into giving you sex. It is totally up to them in this wicked societal reality. Or should I say, up to their friends.

GAME IN GERMANY MEANS HAVING A STRONG SOCIAL CIRCLE. YOU CAN LITERALLY SAY ONLY STUPID SHIT OR EVEN BE A MUTE; IT DOES NOT MATTER THE HIVEMIND WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU; WILL PROVIDE ANYTHING YOU NEED

That is the reason Roosh has no book on Bang Germany. It cannot be done. Well you can also go to Berlin, get drugged up and have an orgy with some std infested demonic skanks.


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I have seen couples go together to clubs so that they can later go have sex. How stupid is that?!?!? And no, german girls do not like Spaniards, they like SPAIN and what SPAIN can provide them (cheap or for free). Spaniards are just ant workers to please all their desires (the same can be said of Italians, Portus, Sudacas, etc). There is no latin lover myth here. Stop spewing bullshit already.

[kirdiesel]

Bringing my 8.5 years of experience to the table here I strongly disagree with that.

Social circle game works like anywhere else on the planet but it is not the leading factor in effectively getting women here.

That accolade goes to Online Dating and Night Game. I have been with girls from Social Circle Game, Online Dating and Night Game and Night Game/Tinder leads by tons. If you are in German social circles and don't speak German or your German isnt C1 level you will be fucked. When in groups, Germans don't like to speak English (even if you are the only English Speaker in the group). This will easily lead to native German guys having the jump on you before you even open your mouth. Even if you are C1 you can't convey your personality, wit and sarcasm the way natives can. Its just a losing game! Anytime the tables were turned when I brought American girls around the German guys and their game, wit and spit turned to fucking dust when I talk.

Believe what you want fellas I have tried it all.

German girls are VERY EASY to meet but not easy to pull. Very easy to meet especially when speaking American English! I have extensively done nightgame here and watch random guys meet girls and take them home without any social circle bullshit. Guys do approaches and all that! Nightgame is alive and well and girls are receptive to being opened. If they were stuck inside their social circle this would not be possible. The problem here is like I previously said.... The standards are high as fuck.

If you walk on the street and see the couples... if anyone dates down its 95% the guys and the girls date up. The only time ive seen this really flip over is with Turkish couples.

As far as it being a race thing it is. German guys got MOST of the hottest women out here and most minorities date down. If i see a minority out here with ANYTHING above a 7 id do a double take. I have an Instagram that I used for advertising a party with 700 girls that I am following. The ones with the lowest value looks wise date minorities and the real dime pieces all date German guys.

I have seen some black guys or minorities with some 8 or higher German chicks but just like I keep saying these guys are top percentile in looks for this area. I distinctly remember this tall dark black guy with a nice girl hugging on him but hes was like 6,2, decent swag and ripped.

I'm not saying and never said its impossible (ive banged some 8s myself) but it is VERY HARD to do and natives/locals have preference over you.


In conclusion... You can eat in Germany but you gotta bring some serious looks and game to table or you are gonna struggle especially if you are a minority.

Social Circle is a WASTE OF TIME especially if you want higher level girls. If you want 6s and leftovers then be my guest.

[yang2287]

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I mean it is not like women in general think for themselves, but it is extremely present in girls born in Germany or who moved to Germany at an early age. So it is not a race or religious thing, the Turks and Bosnians are also playing games the whole time. Poles will flake. Russians say one thing and do another. Italians act all interested and then go cold. French are all friendly and then backstab you. IT IS NOT A RACE THING, it is as if the geographical mental bubble of Germany turn women into monsters unable of being feminine. German girls who happen to move to other countries seem to suddenly be relieved of their burden of never showing any interest and insulting or even physically confronting you (this happened to me several times in clubs).

Haha, i can confirm the bolded, this is true, don't trust a smiling french woman. She will flip on you and possibly stab you in the back in 5 seconds

[Spaniard in Germany]

(05-21-2019 09:27 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

I'm not saying and never said its impossible (ive banged some 8s myself) but it is VERY HARD to do and natives/locals have preference over you.

In conclusion... You can eat in Germany but you gotta bring some serious looks and game to table or you are gonna struggle especially if you are a minority.

Social Circle is a WASTE OF TIME especially if you want higher level girls. If you want 6s and leftovers then be my guest.

Great post Kirdiesel, I quote the conclusion with which I agree. I am certainly not top looks or top gamey, and even though I am white not being blond puts you at a disadvantage no doubt. There ARE people pulling and banging, but I guess you are talking kind of club thing, right? You mention some party you promote in Instagram, also that means you are using social circle.

Let me just say something: what you say higher level girls, I guess you mean "hot" girls. But that is a whole different animal. There are very masculine, so you can keep them lmao. I see you are more experienced no doubt, but hey, social circles of today are indeed a waste of time, I am only stating that getting a girl (not keeping it, I can keep any girl once GOT) goes mainly thru social circle. Yes you can pull some awful ONS every blue moon in clubs and so but we all already agree on that.

Some people have accused me of being negative. Maybe I come across as such, but I truly do not want to offend anyone. I simply get angry whenever anybody says something that I consider obviously false.

But again great info you are bringing Kirdiesel. You mentioned going to party in Köln if I remember correctly? I must admit as well that odds are better in bigger cities. Anyway… I came to Germany because of work not because of the social richness lmao Germany is still one of the best countries of the whole world if we do not take into account the rigid society, the amount of druggies and commies and rapefugees and the women. Aside of that, Germany IS one of the best countries in the world. TOP 10, I am serious.

[semibaron]

Had my first day off again and time to explore my new home town (100k population). Before that I've been 3 months in Colombia. Besides looks, attitude, competition and culture there are two main factors that limit the amount of girls for approaching

1. The country is just old. There is grey hair everywhere. With an average age of 47 Germany is among the oldest countries out there. Colombia has at least two times more young girls for a given population size.

2. Girls can be tall. I'm 178cm and there are quite some girls that reach my height. In think there is this universal law that says the man has to be taller than the woman.

[copperwire]

(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  

I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

(05-02-2016 07:08 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  

I think the reason Germany gets overlooked by the pickup community is because western men have been conditioned by the media to go for a certain style of woman which is more in tune with what is found in Eastern Europe or Russia. That is, slender, feminine, big breasted. I like it that German women have deeper voices, broader shoulders and reasonably big asses.. Not sure if I'm the only one who prefers women less feminine and girly. I think the English speaking world doesn't really understand the place or its people and is slightly intimidated by it after the war.

Pink elephant in the room.

Guys who have to travel to get laid have low/below average SMV generally. Therefore, they're going to travel to countries and regions where they are relatively high SMV because they're from a 1st world country. Therefore, SE Asia, Central and South America will be popular. If Europe, then poorer Eastern European countries not northern or western.

1st world countries with conventionally hot European women will be avoided because this segment of guys can't compete (they couldn't compete in their own home 1st world country; why would they bother with the hassle and expense of traveling or moving to another 1st world country only to get rejected systematically all over again).

The hatred of white/European women is real. It's just rationalizing the reality of their inability to compete.

[Elmore]

Again i'm seeing this assumption repeated on here that people move solely for women. Who the fuck does that? If you're from an Anglo country, there's so many valid reasons to relocate to more favourable climes, be it socially, financially, politically, environmentally etc etc. Women are a factor, but surely for any even somewhat mature individuals on here, a relatively low one.

[copperwire]

Bro, guys are moving to foreign countries based on the quality of transportation infrastructure, wifi speeds, and to find the best quality hiking trails. Quality of Life FTW!

[fmman107]

My experience of Germany when I worked there was that girls talk straight and to the point. But I would often take their bluntness in error as that they were interested in you when, say, you get their number. You are thinking lay, they are thinking give this man my number innocently as a friend, helping out this visitor to Germany.

It is sadly true that I think I do have more success abroad than in my own country, though I haven't even tried in my own country for years