[MongolianAbroad]

(02-21-2017 09:45 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Stop shitting on Valjean.

This forum would be considerably less useful if guys didn't feel they could could unburden themselves of their past blue-pill behaviour and simultaneously use it to educate other guys going down the same path.

All I know is that most of the guys shitting on Val would probably be quite hesitant to have the rest of us start poking around their blue-pill years. The only difference is that he has the balls to admit his failures and in doing so help other guys who might unwittingly stumble down that path.

Agreed.

There's a time and a place for that kind of brutal honesty, and that time is always and that place is the RooshV forum.

First, this:



But then, a big hug from the forum, Valjean.

[Rawmeo]

Jean Valjean, I won't shit on you for that, because you were upfront about it and told us about it. We all enjoy some early-days blue pill stories sometimes.

"Sucking with a condom" - I would never, ever, let a girl suck me with a condom. It's a complete waste of time and I wouldn't even be able to keep a boner.

[StrikeBack]

I already knew this: there's no such thing as an ex-whore. Once a whore, always a whore.

Now thanks to this thread, I also know this: there's no such thing as a pre-whore either. Once the whore mentality is there, she's already a whore, before the real acts.

[brick tamland]

Credit to OP for revealing this. For any guy in an LTR, this must be the ultimate shit test.

TL;DR - whatever conditions the two of you 'agree' on upfront, when she does start stripping you'll lose her anyway, so save yourself all the trouble now. Stripping is a slippery slope. once she starts making 'easy' money, she'll go beyond just stripping in order to make even more 'easy' money.

My take is - she's a young woman and because of that her reasoning ability is either non-existent or nascent, at best. If you don't believe me, look at the poor life decisions that women older than her, in their 30's and beyond still make. She has a big blind spot, and honestly, it shouldn't be your job to try to make her a better person, or try to shape her character. She must always prove her value to you. She's a girlfriend after all, nothing more.

Other posters put it better - there is no upside to this. The environment will ruin her over time.

[BarkChompson]

My first reaction Papaya was "it's the difference between sending a dick pic and letting a girl shit on your chest."

But I thought about it, reread original post.

Yeah if you love her don't let her go down that path.

When I was dating the cam girl I had a few side girls so when she inevitably flaked her life away I wasn't left totally in the dust.

Sometimes I forget, RVF turns you from the player you are into the player you want to be. Good looking out.

(02-21-2017 08:03 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(02-21-2017 04:44 PM)BarkChompson Wrote:  

Omega $$ is still green last I checked

Like Dave Chappelle says "You may not be a whore but youre wearing a whores's uniform".

If money is money where's the line then?...Sheik shit washes off....may as well let her go to Dubai and get that real money.

There's a rationalization for you

[Phoenix]

So the guys who are talking about "early days blue pill stories", do you mean to imply that the rest of the membership did stuff like marrying prostitutes and staying with them as they fucked other guys without condoms and swallowed their jizz?

Do you mean to imply that anybody here even came within a stones throw of that?

None of those members are "dumping shit" on him, they're just reacting completely naturally to what they just witnessed. For every member who responded to it, there are 100 more who read it and feel deeply disturbed.

Just read it again. The honour of honesty isn't infinite. Somethings you should know to keep your mouth shut about and pretend never happened. Erased and pushed out of your memory. You don't go telling people that kind of shit, not even anonymously online. Why would anyone want to relive such a story by recalling it and writing it out? What lessons are there even to be learned from that by everyone else, other than "whatever I've experienced, there's always something more fucked up". That shit is not defensible and admission of doing it cannot be recovered from. That's probably the darkest post the membership here has ever had to read.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I like you Phoenix, but I think you're overreacting.

Personally I draw the line at a member telling us he himself sucked dick to make ends meet. I'll be honest, I don't want to hear that. But I don't think VJ's post crosses the line.

To each their own.

[General Stalin]

There is an episode of National Geographic's Taboo called "Private Passions" where this one dude's girlfriend is a hooker and she has her clients come to their house. The boyfriend goes to the coffee shop, runs errands, and takes the dog for a walk while his girlfriend is with a John. This thread reminded me of that. Sheesh.

[XPQ22]

(02-22-2017 11:10 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

There is an episode of National Geographic's Taboo called "Private Passions" where this one dude's girlfriend is a hooker and she has her clients come to their house. The boyfriend goes to the coffee shop, runs errands, and takes the dog for a walk while his girlfriend is with a John. This thread reminded me of that. Sheesh.

Damn, is nothing sacred anymore? I liked it better when National Geographic didn't pander to the LCD and focused on non-human animals.

We always knew we were in for some quality learnin' when our biology teacher would throw a tape in the VCR on Fuck Off Fridays in high school and this song came on.

[Hoser]

That she would think of anything that resembles infidelity in the slightest, for CONVENIENCE'S SAKE, points to her cheating on you in the future the moment some other dude offers her something she wants.

Even if she had just decided to enter a wet t-shirt contest on Spring Break, it would be enough to show you that she's willing to be unchaste, and please other men with her body, for peanuts.

It's ultimatum time: stripping, or you.

[Off The Reservation]

I call BS on Jean Valjean and his or her posts.

In other posts you appear to have at least four different wives, on killed herself and left a daughter with the state and the state used your blog posts against you, one former prostitute, one American feminist blogger (funny how much blogging is going on), one newly married Philippine, and this is just from about a two minute scan of your posts.

All have one thing in common, fishing for reactions of a particular nature. No facts, just labels and buzzwords to generate a reaction. It's a tactic used by... feminist bloggers in fact.

[Splord]

(02-22-2017 02:30 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

"Sucking with a condom" - I would never, ever, let a girl suck me with a condom. It's a complete waste of time and I wouldn't even be able to keep a boner.

Not to mention how kissing her after would taste! The horror!

[XPQ22]

(02-22-2017 01:06 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

All have one thing in common, fishing for reactions of a particular nature. No facts, just labels and buzzwords to generate a reaction.

It does take a sort of perpetual pathology to be a member of the forum for over a year, pushing 100 posts and still have 0 rep. Hmm.

[Off The Reservation]

My post above refers to Jean Valjean who used this thread to post his marrying a prostitute story here, not the OP Jtguthrie12 and his GF the stripper.

[Comte De St. Germain]

No offense Leonard but none of us need just this post to shit on Valjean just a simple check of the various threads he's started.


The turning RVF into a Polygynous Tribe thread and "Alpha" Nazi impregnating white trash thread come to mind almost immediately.

I question the sanity of anyone defending him.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Then that's the call to make.

You guys might have combed through his stuff or followed it more closely but others haven't, so you need to address the issue you have with him, not parachute into the thread and mock him supposedly because of revelation he's just made.

If you think "Valjean married a hooker" is fake news then call it fake news. Don't mock him for sharing because for the rest of us (particularly new members) that's all we see. Highly repped members shitting on someone for posting a "don't let it happen to you too" story.

Stick to the issue you have with the guy, even if it crosses threads. Maybe I should be a bit more vigilant. The last thing I want to do is stand shoulder to shoulder with a phaggot but I'm not inclined to meticulously research the entire membership roster either. Some threads I just don't monitor, and some phaggots I just don't remember.

[Il Bersagliere]

(02-20-2017 05:49 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

I was in a similar situation as this. My first wife was a former prostitute, and promised not to do that anymore. She really liked that I was an open-minded guy who didn't mind that she had that past, though. She asked if it would be okay to keep some of the outfits that she used as a prostitute because she thought they were beautiful, and I told her that of course that was fine.

However, after a few other job prospects didn't work out, she started saying that she wanted to get back into the sex industry. At first she was saying that she wanted to be a stripper or just do webcam stuff. But then she decided that maybe she didn't have the body for that, so she started asking my permission to go back to prostitution. (She preferred to call it "escorting," although she found her clients through Craigslist's intimate encounters section, rather than through an agency.)

She kept pressing the issue, till eventually, I was like, "Whatever, you can suck other guys' dicks for money, as long as you use a condom, and save your pussy for me." I remember the first evening she was going to go do that, she put on one of those prostitution outfits that she had brought with her, and went to kiss me goodbye and said, "Careful, the lipstick might smear." Meanwhile, our sex life was deterioriating, as she was putting out less and less for me, till eventually, she cut me off altogether.

If I had to guess, I'd say that she probably wasn't actually using a condom with those guys, because she did contract an STD at one point, plus she used to write in her blog about swallowing her clients' fluids, plus when I asked her (before we got together) if she swallowed, she said of course; where else would it go, if not down her throat? That's probably one of the reasons why her clients loved her so much, and kept blowing up her phone long after she'd moved out of the area.

After she left me, she went back to live with her parents, and they started pressuring her to find a real job instead of being a prostitute. So she told them she was going to be a life coach, but confided to her Facebook friends that the life coach stuff was BS, because she had no interest in that; she was always going to be an escort. I think it had become part of her identity by that point.

When a girl wants to get into stripping, it means that she has major daddy issues and is probably going to use stripping as a slippery slope to get into straight-up prostitution. She's addicted to jobs where she can use her ability to cater to random men's sexual desires as a way of getting quick cash; and she can get more and quicker cash by offering entry into her holes than by just offering a look. It shows a lack of impulse control, because she doesn't want to do what's needed to make money the hard way.

I was in a weak financial position at the time and therefore wasn't able to say, "Hon, you don't need to sell your body, I'll take care of you." (Now I've got that Police song "Roxanne" in my head.) But, even if I'd had that much money, her wanting to get into the sex industry was a major red flag of mental instability. Bonecrker has written on this topic a few times.

Edit - I actually think you are lying/trolling.

[puckerman]

Stripping is not so much the issue here. The issue is the company she will be keeping when she is stripping. Women are very much like chameleons. They become their surroundings.

What kind of lady friends does your girl friend have now? Do you think they will stick around if she starts stripping? What kind of lady friends will she have in six months?

If you want to marry a girl, you want her to hang around married women. If you want to stay married, you also want her to avoid divorced women.

I was once at a strip club where the girls talked the bartender into stripping once. This showed how women influence each other, for better or for worse.

[LeeEnfield303]

All this, and no, "Pics or GTFO?"

[LeeEnfield303]

delete

[Fortis]

(02-22-2017 07:10 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

So the guys who are talking about "early days blue pill stories", do you mean to imply that the rest of the membership did stuff like marrying prostitutes and staying with them as they fucked other guys without condoms and swallowed their jizz?

Do you mean to imply that anybody here even came within a stones throw of that?

None of those members are "dumping shit" on him, they're just reacting completely naturally to what they just witnessed. For every member who responded to it, there are 100 more who read it and feel deeply disturbed.

Just read it again. The honour of honesty isn't infinite. Somethings you should know to keep your mouth shut about and pretend never happened. Erased and pushed out of your memory. You don't go telling people that kind of shit, not even anonymously online. Why would anyone want to relive such a story by recalling it and writing it out? What lessons are there even to be learned from that by everyone else, other than "whatever I've experienced, there's always something more fucked up". That shit is not defensible and admission of doing it cannot be recovered from. That's probably the darkest post the membership here has ever had to read.

This. That is honestly what I struggle with whenever I read a JVJ thread or reply. I don't see the value in most of the things he writes. Sure, it's a hilarious story in a cringey, autistic way but what the hell was this story about a prostitute ex-wife supposed to teach the men of this forum.

It was the definition of a shit post. This is the sort of thing I expect on /b/ or reddit, not RVF. Trust me, I talk to many RVF guys offline and we all have cringe stories that we don't tell on the forum out of respect for ourselves and the forum.

I read that JVJ story 2 days ago and I burst out laughing whenever I think of it. Sure, it's hysterical but I think JVJ needs to let someone read and moderate what he wants to write before he posts it. Nothing against him personally, but he triggers my Jonbozz sense hard.

[Travesty]

There's this pretty girl in Dubai guys. Her name is Tami. She tells me she loves me, I believe her.

I am starting a crowd fund to get the money to move in with her.

PM if you can spare at least $2.50 or 0.0045 bitcoin.

ThX

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Haven't read all the comments here yet, but I am sure that they are not encouraging.

Don't do it.

If you allow this to her, then it will damage or ruin her mentally. And no real man allows his girl to do this. It is not as if you need the money for a kidney operation of your child - because that is about the extent you would need the cash to do it. I could understand that.

But anything else? No.
If you are pimping her out, why not getting a stall of bitches to go work for you?

The worst that you could do is to have sex with her on cam - you don't even need to show your face, because the guys will not need to see it. Fuck her on cam and get paid - some cam girls make decent dough.

Sure - it is possible that someone records it and puts it online, but even if that happens, then it is not such a big deal. She only had sex with her boyfriend and needed the cash - it is not as if she was a porn star and fucked random dudes.

[wi30]

(02-23-2017 11:35 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Sure, it's a hilarious story in a cringey, autistic way but what the hell was this story about a prostitute ex-wife supposed to teach the men of this forum.

How to neutral.

[MongolianAbroad]

(02-22-2017 06:35 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

No offense Leonard but none of us need just this post to shit on Valjean just a simple check of the various threads he's started.


The turning RVF into a Polygynous Tribe thread and "Alpha" Nazi impregnating white trash thread come to mind almost immediately.

I question the sanity of anyone defending him.

Noted. Didn't realize it was the same guy, I'm also not inclined to meticulously research a member's posting history, you would think someone with that many posts of that quality would have been banned already.