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Recently Broke 100 Lays - What I've Learned

Recently Broke 100 Lays - What I've Learned

Quote: (04-14-2017 08:27 PM)GymBro Wrote:  

Great thread.

The_e_man, how often do you bring a girl home compared to when you first started going out? 1 in 3 nights out? 1 in 5?

On average, how many girls would you need to approach before finding one to take home?

How do you spot the DTF girls?

Thanks bro, sorry for the late reply I just saw this thread was bumped recently.
To answer your questions: if I go out on a Friday and Saturday night, I will very likely bring a (new) girl home at least one of those nights. Sometimes both nights, sometimes neither. It's rather variable but certainly much more consistent than it used to be. So I'd say on average 1 every 2 or so nights out.

For answering the next question, depends on what you would consider an approach. I would smile and say hello to many girls in a night. But for full-on "approach" I'd say I would take to 10-15 girls a night at that capacity. Sometimes, I will only talk to 2 or 3 girls before pulling, sometimes I could talk to every girl in the whole damn bar and still leave empty-handed. I don't quite have a solid approach-to-lay ratio to give you as it is highly variable for me.

Grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference
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Recently Broke 100 Lays - What I've Learned

Quote: (04-15-2017 02:03 AM)Jameson Ranger Wrote:  

I don't understand how people keep track. When i was 20/21 years old i lost track near 40 notches. Did you keep a journal, list or like pile of panties? If not i don't understand how you keep track of 100 people. I've also never understood the importance of keeping track. Was it like a race or quota? Personal goal?

Using the "Notes" app on my iPhone. I would update the list with every new notch. I started this list when I was at around 20 or so notches. Because at that point, it was getting very difficult to keep track and I realized making a little "black book" would be necessary.

As for the reasons why: race, quota, personal goal, male bravado, self-esteem, stupidity, tracking progress, showing off. A lot of reasons, some slightly more noble than others. It's really not uncommon for people to keep a list or blackbook of their sexual conquests. Men and women alike.

Grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference
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Recently Broke 100 Lays - What I've Learned

Quote: (04-15-2017 03:34 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

Quote: (04-14-2017 08:27 PM)GymBro Wrote:  

Great thread.

The_e_man, how often do you bring a girl home compared to when you first started going out? 1 in 3 nights out? 1 in 5?

On average, how many girls would you need to approach before finding one to take home?

How do you spot the DTF girls?

Thanks bro, sorry for the late reply I just saw this thread was bumped recently.
To answer your questions: if I go out on a Friday and Saturday night, I will very likely bring a (new) girl home at least one of those nights. Sometimes both nights, sometimes neither. It's rather variable but certainly much more consistent than it used to be. So I'd say on average 1 every 2 or so nights out.

For answering the next question, depends on what you would consider an approach. I would smile and say hello to many girls in a night. But for full-on "approach" I'd say I would take to 10-15 girls a night at that capacity. Sometimes, I will only talk to 2 or 3 girls before pulling, sometimes I could talk to every girl in the whole damn bar and still leave empty-handed. I don't quite have a solid approach-to-lay ratio to give you as it is highly variable for me.

Thx for the reply bro. Major props for having the endurance to hit up 10-15 girls on a given night until you find one to take home. Most guys would wear out after a few rejections and call it a night.

How do you spot the DTF girls? From breaking 100 lays, have you noticed any patterns? Do they generally come in 2s or 3s? Are white girls more DTF than black/Asian/Indian girls? Are young girls more DTF? How about tourists or girls from out of town vs. local girls? Are smaller intimate bars more likely to have DTF girls than huge clubs with bottle service with big groups celebrating birthdays/bachelorettes?

A lot of the game is quick screening and being able to move on from a girl if you sense she's not down to go home with a guy that night (whether it's you or any other guy). After 100 lays you must have some intuition about which girls are most likely to go go home with you.

I'm trying to be more efficient with my approaches (not waste time with non-DTF girls, get in and out quickly) so I know which girls to approach. Any insights you could offer as a short brown guy running night game in the Anglosphere (game on hard mode) would be great.

Thanks man.
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Recently Broke 100 Lays - What I've Learned

GymBro, to answer your follow up questions:

-how to spot DTF girls: I honestly believe any girl can be DTF if she meets the right guy or the conditions are right. That being said, some general markers for DTF would be a girl at the bar with just one other female friend. Usually means they are on the prowl together. Very high heels / stilettos. Conspicuous alcohol consumption. Looking around and giving a lot of smiles and grins. This question though isn't worth asking brother, it's better to look for girls you find attractive and that you find to be your type rather than look for an easy shoe-in with a DTF girl (which really won't happen, even if she's the biggest DTF slut, you're still not guaranteed to even get a smile back from her)

- Have I noticed any patterns: not really, doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to which demographic I take home and who says no thank you.

- Are white girls more DTF: I'm not sure. I only am attracted to white girls for the most part so essentially all of my lays have been with white women. I'm also in a much more redneck / conservative part of the country than you bro. Here in Alberta it's mostly white people so I have no experience with girls of other races, nor do I really want to, to be honest.

- Tourist girls vs local girls: We don't get many tourists here as Edmonton isn't a massive tourist destination for young people. The very few tourists I've layed have been girls visiting from nearby cities / towns. Definitely a girl out in another city is very easy to lay. She gets a free pass to be a slut with little to no social repercussions.

- Smaller intimate bars tend to be more cliquey here with people showing up and leaving with their tight-knit group of friends. Clubs are more conductive to meeting people. But it's a high competition environment. You gotta have something to offer that's usually quite superficial. Being good looking, having lots of cool friends, lots of industry connections, money to spend on bottles, etc. All those things help. Not necessary by any means, but they certainly help if you know how to leverage it right.

"A lot of the game is quick screening and being able to move on from a girl if you sense she's not down to go home with a guy that night (whether it's you or any other guy). After 100 lays you must have some intuition about which girls are most likely to go go home with you."
- Oh fuck yes. I can't describe it but I just *know* when a girl is not down or is wasting time. In my newbie days, I would sense this as well, but I would fight it and try even harder to "win over" the girl. Now that my game is more refined, I can smell things like this from a mile away and move on accordingly. Sure, I'm leaving some change on the table when I do this. But I find converting a "no" or "maybe" girl into a "yes" girl takes a lot more work then simply moving on and finding a "yes" girl.
Conversely, I can also tell when it's on. They way she looks at me, the way she smiles at me. The way she sticks around despite given ample opportunity to run along. Things like that, but again it's hard to describe. It's something that you learn to really feel over the years. Like mind-muscle connection when weight lifting.

"I'm trying to be more efficient with my approaches (not waste time with non-DTF girls, get in and out quickly) so I know which girls to approach. Any insights you could offer as a short brown guy running night game in the Anglosphere (game on hard mode) would be great."
- I used to say the exact same thing. And I still kinda do to an extent. Our time is valuable, why waste it? Especially why waste it on some chubby 6 from the bar that's giving attitude?
That's where I think you should make a slight mindset change and enjoy the process. It sounds cheesy and overdone, but going out should legitimately be fun. You should be having a good time. Don't get me wrong, pussy is still my goal. And I'm not gonna act like some spiritual hippy and say that I still have fun even if I don't fuck a single girl. But try and find a good balance. Yes, your goal is to close some deals and fuck the shit out of a sexy white girl with long legs and blue eyes at the end of the night. But still have fun in the process. Have fun shooting the shit and joking around with your boys. Have fun talking to beautiful girls and flirting a little bit. Try and be a little less results-orientated and try and be more process-orientated. You'll not only enjoy yourself more, but you'll end up pulling more consistently and better quality.

Grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference
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