Quote: (11-24-2016 09:40 AM)XXL Wrote:
I'm not asking for advice HOW TO DO IT, I'm asking HOW YOU GUYS DO IT.
This is tricky question.
First of all, usually we do not compete with other players, we compete with regular orbiter guys who are just there orbiting trying to be girl's BF. All of us lost girls to guys like these, some of us just do not know it.
Second of all, if doing your usual player thing doesn't work then doing the same thing but more or harder is not the solution, obviously. But she will fuck someone so there is a way.
Third of all, when I go against a guy who provides something different than me and both of us get nothing in return it gets me thinking.
I fully acknowledge the phenomenon, but I would hardly call it a loss for two reasons:
1. If the girl eventually settles down with a beta provider she is not lost to you. You always have a window to fuck her later even while she s still with him. You have certainly slept with girls in a happy LTR before, girls whom you've known for a while.
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Third of all, when I go against a guy who provides something different than me and both of us get nothing in return it gets me thinking.
You might get nothing but you also lose nothing, save maybe some time/effort? He lost A LOT of time, effort, mental energy, shit ton of $$$$, maybe his honor (I see any type of supplicating to a woman as a disgrace) and all for maybe one fuck with her, and at best a LTR with him where she will surely cuckold him with someone else (maybe even you?)
No loss for you, BIG loss for him. This is like a girl I gamed once, just told her "come have a drink, I'll make your PG-13 life less boring". She came, then as we chit chat she told me about these guys who spend all crazy $$ to invite her to expensive concert and still get nothing. I lost 4 euros and get to kiss her and massage her boobs. Sure she is hot but if someone wanna spend more time and effort than I did to get that I'll happily step aside.
But I digest, let's talk real strategy:
One of the best thing I learned it game is "girls just want to have fun". Thats our competitive edge against the regular guys, because we are fun. Beta provider are boring. Stability and security are desirable, but they are boring.
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You give her thrills but she's still careful, on the fence and doesn't give in, you see something's wrong or missing.
This is where it gets interesting. Maybe your type of thrill doesn't excite her?
It takes lots of calibrating and intuition to read a chick. I know the frustration of not being able to read one, while homies WIA can careen around snooping in every dark corners of a girl's mind.
One tactic that works for me is to throw in some heavy contrast.
So you invite her out, pull your standard game and she doesn't hook? Suddenly throw back that aloof and fun mask and be the caring guy, and escort her home, arms in arms. Then all of a sudden slam her against the wall and make out. Try to pull away first, then walk away with a simple "Good night". This worked for me twice when I had trouble.
Ask her about her family and upbringing. This usually gives you a lot of info about her as a person. Get as deep and personal as you can. I find that usually each girls have a hung up male figure of obsession in her life (father, ex, brother, even a teacher she admired) and if you can draw from that energy you would be golden. Lots of fine-tuning but I find this fun.