[Komodo]

Places where the social culture is more suited for "calm" or introverted guys. What kind of energy do the "popular" men in the city/country project?

For example, what you see and hear about American culture is that people tend to be pretty loud and obnoxious; the most well-liked people are very high-energy and cocky.

A city that I've actually visited which comes to mind is Marseille; VERY high testosterone/low IQ place (mostly due to strong North African influence - the few French people I saw gave off a very cucked vibe), a lot of yelling in the streets and staring contests on the sidewalk. High value guys are loud and brash, sometimes straight-up thuggish.

So yeah, would like to avoid that. I found both Belgrade (Serbia) and smaller cities in Bulgaria to fit the vibe I'm looking for pretty well. Hard men, soft women, respectful people. Love the Balkans.

Think all-purpose travel catering to any of the following interests:

Hanging out with the locals
Culture
Nature
History
Martial arts
Language
Job prospects
Vaginal penetration

[Akwesi]

Even if you are introverted and calm, you have to be obnoxious, cocky, and high-t to some extent to be successful with women (unless you have other outstanding qualities, such as great looks or wealthy, maybe). We introverts have to adopt some of the features of loud Americans and thuggish North Africans to survive in the sexual market. I think an introvert will usually be most successful as an aloof and mysterious asshole. There's no running away from being a bit of a dick, although of course you don't have to be as dickish in most non-Western settings.

That being said, I think being a calm, quiet type works fairly well in West Africa. As long as you are minimally social in the sense that you can talk to people and you're not a completely awkward social retard, you will get laid. You have to be more aggressive once you isolate, but in public a lot of girls appreciate the "humble" guy, especially if they imagine that his outlook and attitude are determined by religious values. So there you go, pretend to be a devout Christian, go to Africa, and watch out so you don't drown in pussy.

[MrRoundtree]

Finland

[Nowak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCZMToKU1EI

You might find Aurini's video helpful on this matter,he's right. Now in modernity we have a messed up perception of what introversion and extroversion even are. I would say the US is notoriously bad for guys who aren't super high energy in the sexual market place. Central and Eastern Europe one can do quite well even if one isn't really high energy,being a good conversationalist and having a good sense of humor(talking when value is added,shutting up and enjoying silence when its not) is valued much more in terms of energy than acting as a full out caveman. Americans can talk hours and hours about the most inane BS ,whether it be with family,friends,work,dates or game

[jselysianeagle]

(11-23-2016 11:19 PM)Komodo Wrote:  

For example, what you see and hear about American culture is that people tend to be pretty loud and obnoxious; the most well-liked people are very high-energy and cocky.

While this is true to a large extent, if you happen to live in a big city like NYC or LA, there are absolutely certain scenes where the more quiet, introverted types can do well. For instance, the hipsters in Williamsburg in NYC are anything but loud/obnoxious, but there's tons of really cute, tattooed hipster chics that wouldn't even look at any other type of guy. And that's just one example.

Honestly, though, the best bet for an introvert is to actually work on social skills and then use social circle game to the max. Unless you're really good at faking it or are able to totally turn around your personality to the point where you're the loudest mofo in the bar, you'll always be at a disadvantage.

Another option is to get in shape and then rely heavily on online dating/tinder with judiciously taken pics that accentuate your looks above all else. A significant number of women in these arenas are just lookin for some dick, they don't care if you're an introvert or an extrovert - if you can get them out on a date and not fuck it up, you're golden.

[James Bond Next level]

(11-24-2016 07:18 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  

Finland

Yes and no. My trip to Helsinki resulted in great success, all made from high energy game. It's def lower energy than France and being calm helps but still, you have to get noticed and engage to bang.
How about Russia?

[Vicious]

Huh? If you are looking for a country to facilitate your introverted needs then you'll stay introverted

[MrRoundtree]

(11-25-2016 03:06 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

(11-24-2016 07:18 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  

Finland

Yes and no. My trip to Helsinki resulted in great success, all made from high energy game. It's def lower energy than France and being calm helps but still, you have to get noticed and engage to bang.
How about Russia?

Yeah but man compared to any city in the world the finnish guys are really beta and introverted...it is the shyest country I've been too.

[Dantes]

It is important to distinguish between being shy and introverted. Introverted is a preference whereas being shy is more related to a fear or being judged or lack of confidence. Many successful players are introverts. In fact, I believe Roosh describes himself as being more introverted. In any country, you are going to need to have a healthy set of social skills. Most introverted players are able to bring charisma, inject humor and increase their social energy when the time is needed.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

Seems most PUAs are introverted. Roosh, Krauser, Mystery, Tyler, Todd, etc.

If you're an extroverted guy you probably don't need to learn game.

[Beirut]

The US is actually pretty good because you never feel awkward being out alone. Usually not very cliquy scenes so a lone guy out doesnt seem out of place.

In general, small calm cities may have the laid back vibe that you prefer, but theyll have a cliquy scene.

Big cities have be too hectic and overwhelming but if you have enough time to get the hang of it the sheer number of people means there will be plenty of girls in same vibe or situation as you.

In general i dont think it should affect your decision either way, except maybe avoiding the very young party all night beach all day scene like ayia napa and ios and whatever (theres still fun to be had there too but not optimal and can definitely get annoying for an introvert)

[Komodo]

Like some of you touched upon; I don't mean introverted as in shy or asocial. I love people and love socializing and talking to deze hoes.

But I tire quickly of the dumb and loud types that like to go "WOOOO" just a bit too often and have exclusively inane things to say.

I guess better words to use would be "stoic" or "heedful". Eastern European people are definitely a good example of this. I always make good friends and ladyfriends when visiting there.

(11-24-2016 12:41 AM)Akwesi Wrote:  

That being said, I think being a calm, quiet type works fairly well in West Africa.

Interesting as fuck.

Any other places that stand out to you guys in regards to this?

[Komodo]

(11-25-2016 03:49 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Huh? If you are looking for a country to facilitate your introverted needs then you'll stay introverted

Not exactly looking to monk it out like a nerd moving to Japan where he can be a so called "herbivore" in peace.

You could say I'm partly looking to have more of an "energy advantage" over the local people than I do in some of these party-people type social circles in the west. That vibe is cool occasionally, but I get along a lot better with, and party better with - once again - Serbians or Bulgarians.

[Vicious]

What you describe is being allergic to a type of area/property (nightclub for example), not a specific culture/country.

[iknowexactly]

(11-24-2016 11:34 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 11:19 PM)Komodo Wrote:  

For example, what you see and hear about American culture is that people tend to be pretty loud and obnoxious; the most well-liked people are very high-energy and cocky.

While this is true to a large extent,...there are absolutely certain scenes where the more quiet, introverted types can do well. For instance, the hipsters in Williamsburg in NYC are anything but loud/obnoxious, but there's tons of really cute, tattooed hipster chics that wouldn't even look at any other type of guy.

That's right as far as it goes, but you're talking about New York Hipsters its a pretty small minority of people from mostly upper middle class or better backgrounds, parents were educated, they have the resources to pay 1200/month+ for a bedroom in a shared apartment at 25 years old... if you aren't from that type of background people sense it and it's hard to get accepted.

They unconsciously screen on mannerisms, accents, cultural awareness that is VERY hard to acquire unless you are extremely intelligent, have some in extraordinary talent like music , a lot of money ( like trump had as a youth) , or extraordinary good looks.

This board has a lot of guys that love Trump, who received 18% of the vote NYC and in Brooklyn, and only 10% in Manhattan. You can't really just "quiet down" with the upper middle class.

[PragueDude]

Czech is good for introverted people. If you're having a heart attack generally people won't make eye-contact while you're seizing.

[Brick Top]

(11-28-2016 03:58 AM)PragueDude Wrote:  

Czech is good for introverted people. If you're having a heart attack generally people won't make eye-contact while you're seizing.

Czech people aren't really introvert though, they're just very laid back to the point where they don't really give a shit.

I'd say any of the Scandinavian countries would be perfect for an introvert guy as they are usually quite reserved nations and their English is so good that gaming them feels more natural then trying to decipher an Eastern European chick.

[Komodo]

(11-28-2016 03:58 AM)PragueDude Wrote:  

Czech is good for introverted people. If you're having a heart attack generally people won't make eye-contact while you're seizing.

I fucking LOL:ed. Got some cheap flights to Prague from where I live, might be looking to celebrate New Year's there. Appreciate the comment.