[XXL]

+ great sex life
+ higher self esteem
+ lots of fun together
+ great connection
+ nice feminine presence at all times
+ someone you can count on just in case [hopefully]

- being in relationship with her family and friends
- sharing her problems
- compromising your time and hobbies
- having to spice it up regularly to not get bored
- being the center of her life [the worst], every problem, issue, question, news or idea goes straight to you. It's like working in call center support 24/7. the more feminine a girl the more calls you receive, the more self reliant the girl the more she can deal with stuff on her own [god bless those women]. I've been with the exact type of a girl that this whole forum idolize to the max ie very hot feminine family oriented Russian wearing dresses and high heels all the time who almost worshiped me. Believe me there is a price to pay for all that and I'm not talking about money at all. Try and see for yourself. Seduction is a piece of cake comparing to LTR game.

[DonnyGately]

That's why the key is not codependence or independence. It's interdependence, you have to make each other better.

[RatInTheWoods]

As you get older you realise that getting fresh pussy all the time is a lot of work and drama and not really worth it. Pussy is pussy.

Sex with new pussy is usually pretty crap anyway.

The best and regular sex is in a LTR with the RIGHT woman.

I find its generally less work and drama maintaining the right LTR than it is gaming new prospects all the time.

LTR game is a thing however, and its a different set of skill for sure.

You do have to maintain frame under difficult circumstances, and the shit tests are very real

I think LTR game is much harder.

It all boils down to being the right mix of alpha/Beta traits. Pure Alpha doesn't work in an LTR, and a pure Beta LTR is hell. You have to find the right mix.

[AfroSamurai]

Pros

Im entrepreneurial at heart and sometimes i fail, nice to have someone tell you its ok.
Constant femmine presence as others have mentioned
Shared goals and values
Intimate understanding of each other
Plenty of lasting positive experiences
A life partner

Cons

My girls hot but its the same pussy, Im young and I've only been with a few girls I want to experience more.
Slow integration into your life.
Im pretty aloof but my girl needs constant emotional connection this shit is draining
Not enough time gaming other chicas due to how integrated she is to me. i.e. family knowing each other, ect.

Overall i kind of wish i was in my ltr later in my life. In a year or so were splitting so i can bang other chics. She said she'll wait but anything could happen. Ill probably get a mistress if that doesn't happen.

[fortysix]

Pros:

Its another step achieved of Maslow's pyramid and allows you to 100% focus on your deep aspirations, career, creativity, etc. Your life changes when you aren't stressed out dealing with flakes and pre-occupied with ten different girls on your mind.

Its nice to come home and have dinner with someone you care about without putting up a game front.

Cons:

The urge for new poon gets insane. Even with the hottest girl next to you, you are dreaming of getting up into that sweet *** you saw walking around at the gym. You want to try a different sensation of skin on yours, different tones, new voice saying your name etc.

You hang out with your friends less.

Because you start focusing on non-game aspects of your life, you dedicate less time to keeping your appearance fresh and sharp (not referring to the gym, but just making sure your hair is always 100% sharp, fresh clothes, etc).

[kirdiesel]

+ With the right girl.. fantastic and regular sex
+ Can focus more on other things than meeting women.
+ I tend to travel more if im in a LTR. Take more vacations.
+ Stability sometimes is comforting.

- I get lazy and don't hustle as hard on gym, clothes, etc etc etc
- You get tired of her and get grass is greener syndrome at some point
- Having to compromise or doing things you dont want to do to please her
- Dealing with her stupid or boring friends
- Life in general is overall less exciting and mundane (double edged sword)
- Pressures to move forward in life even if you arent ready.. marriage, kids, house, etc etc etc


I was single from age 19 to 26 and I think it was a fantastic idea.. years later I still dont regret it. Now im in my thirties LTR is where I am going because while the game is great it gets old at my age.

I feel like a basketball player who only plays to win or to get a check. If I'm not winning or getting paid its not enjoyable anymore. Years ago I used to play the sport just for the love of the game (win or lose) and that passion is just gone and I haven't been able to get it back.

[Filbert]

(10-27-2016 01:06 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

I feel like this is mostly self-explanatory. Really no content to add to OP question that others haven't already said.


-If you are going to live with a woman, don't get a place with[i] her or mover into [i]her place. Stay in control. Have her move in with you, or buy a house under your own name that you both can live in. No only is this just smart economics, but it maintains the frame that you are indeed the "man of the house" and run the ship. It's your world, she's just living in it. Of course let her decorate and make it look nice (women are far better at this than men) so it feels like home to both of you, but at the end of the day you're the captain.

There's a start.

I guess this point is tricky.
If you move her in, after a certain period your relationship can be considered a civil marriage, and if she files false domestic battery charges, you can be kicked out of your own house.

[Unchained]

The real question is why be exclusive? Just creep every now and then and don't get caught.

[tomzestatlu]

There´s relationship and there´s different relationship. I would be happier if I made costs/benefits analysis on some of my previous relationships before. Anyway the key was to learn about nature of women. In my opinion, quality relationship with women of high qualities is much more satisfying than meeting different girls every weekend. But there were relationships, that took my time for meeting different girls every weekend.
The biggest "-" is definitely sex. It´s not so good after some time passes and then there comes time for the analysis: is the lack of new sex experiences worth seeing this one girl?
I am defnitely supporting the idea of LTR and maybe the problem is, that we are told, that we have "unlimited opportunities" in our life. So we think this way even in this case. But we must also make choices... and chosing good girl is not bad choice, but it´s necessary to choose carefully.