So the results of my two days in Lille are in and I wanted to talk about what I experienced.
I pipelined and boosted from Sunday onwards and stayed Thursday and Friday. I went out hardcore BOTH nights on Massena and Solferino.
Online Game Pipelining: I got a reasonable amount of matches. After opening many of them said they dont speak English and one or two said they could try and conversation fizzled out. I did match with a girl from Finland and was able to grab a date with her at a restaurant.
Before we met she already gave me a HARD time constraint because she had to work the next day and is not really a party type of girl. I had nothing else to do so I decided to meet with her anyway. I was able to loosen her up by the end of the date but wasnt able to break her out of going home and couldn't get her back to my airbnb. She doesnt drink due having an alcoholic father so that strategy was out. She wants to meet again as soon as I come back to Lille. I told her ill be back in two weeks but I dont think I am going back.
Nightlife:
As I said before I only went out on Massena and Solferino both nights which seems like a huge student party area.
There was NO ENTRY FEE to any club whatsoever. However most of the places are tiny crappy dive bars (or at least looked like it) with the exception of a few.
I visited - Smile Club, Le Network, Le Trading Hip hop Bar one crappy other one (cant remember the name).
Smile Club - Unfortunately I played myself and only went here on Thursday. The top floor had girls on it and one other black guy but for the most part the ratio were ok but the music was horrendous with lots of french songs. Kinda weird vibe but wish I had of went back on Friday to see if there was more potential here. Some fairly cute girls though. Would go back if I end up in the city again.
La Network - Fancy club with bottle service and all that. Paid 10€ here for a Vodka Redbull. Too many people dancing on the stairs here making it very hard to approach girls. Wont be going back here.
Le trading hip hop - I spent most of my time here because I am black and seems like brothers were getting the most attention here. I did see brothers with some decent french girls but venue is GARBAGE and just a hole in the wall bar. Really small and you can open every girl in there in 20 minutes or less. Best music I heard in Lille though.
La Boucherie - Mr Roundtree highly recommended this place but they would not let me in saying that you needed an invitation to get in (BULLSHIT). I asked one of the english speaking black guys about it and he told me that they are racist. At the end of the night I also did not see any black guys hanging out in front or coming out of the place. The girls inside did look better than all the other places on the street though. Maybe next time ill suit up and go in here. Not sure.
Quote: (06-23-2017 09:01 AM)apolis Wrote:
The basic problems were provincial mentality and lack of (conversational ) English.
My French friends in the UK say ''If you want French girls that speak English, go to London or Paris.''
Of course I don't mention the 'French attitude' which is a chapter on its own.
I would have to say Apolis was right on this one. The lack of English was really a challenge. In two nights out on Massena and other street and I found 3 girls I could have a "reasonable" conversation with but couldn't convert that into anything. Its makes things very tough since youll have a limited selection of girls to talk to. I found a super hot blonde girl and opened her and she got flabbergasted having to speak English and kinda got freaked out. Just didnt work well.
next time I have to try this VIEUX- Lille place and see if I fit in better over there. Again not sure if ill go back.
Quote: (06-23-2017 09:49 AM)godzilla Wrote:
Kir a trip to lille would be decent.
Not much to do in the city touristy other then walk around though you could technically take the train to Bruges, drive to the Belgian breweries or ypres.
Lille still has decent nightlife in the summer. I was there is exact time last year. I dont remember seeing any black guys out either so id imagine you'll be exotic. Id say Lille girls are about equal to girls youll see in west Germany but there will be far fewer blondes around.
I think I went out in Lille maybe 5 or 6 times and picked up twice. Lille is much better nightlife wise then the rest of france because there were a lot more western style bars where people stand up and interract.
English levels among the youth in Lille were decent. Worse the Belgium but better then Brittany or south of france.
Nightlife was in fact decent and I didn't feel the city was lacking in the amount of people going out at all. The ratios weren't the best but I have seen worse in other cities. However, English levels are REALLY bad in my opinion. Maybe its just where I went out.
I found the city beautiful and VERY walkable once you had a central apartment like I did. I walked everywhere... The EURALILLE shopping mall, Grand Place, all the shopping streets and restaurants.... everything walkable. I drove to the city and the parking garage was 20€ for two days.
Quote: (06-23-2017 01:06 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2017 12:50 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:
After reading MrRoundtree's thread I am going to go ahead and give it a try. I just hope im not too late and the students have all dipped out.
I have an awesome apartment there (63 square meters )on Rue Esquermoise supposedly with great logistics. It says its near Grand Place. Lets see if I can make Tinder work for me before even showing up. Will start pipelining heavy on Sunday night.
Looking on Instagram I saw some black guys so lets see if I am in fact exotic. Hopefully theres no problem racist bouncers or some shit like that. I'll be walking with my passport.
On Saturday i will be in the The Hague, Netherlands.
Can't go wrong with le Vieux Lille or the main 2 party streets (Masséna and Solferino).
Be careful though, Lille crime rate is high for a second tier city, lot of mugging in the streets and petty thiefs. Don't leave your jacket on a chair and stay away fromt he gipsies and low-lifes hanging out at the exit of clubs (like Smile).
Vieux-Lille is probably better for that. But one club you should go to is la Boucherie (and don't get too drunk).
Online game was bad, I don't think I had one tinder lay when I was there (in Lille), it mostly came from night game.
Exotic American Game:
Black guys are NOT.. I repeat NOT exotic at all in this city or in the nightclubs. Maybe some black guys dont go to some places but there are many black guys in the city and some even work as doormen or bouncers at the clubs.
When do you do tell people you are from NYC people do go crazy for it. I have never seen people more excited to talk to someone in my life. It works great for opening girls but then its like a balloon that is slowly losing air. First the girls get really excited and then interest just slips away when you cant speak French and they fuck off and go talk to their friends again.
Zero problems with security or feeling safe at all. I saw two or three bums and that was about the most of it but again im black so your experience could vary.
Final thoughts:
I liked the city... atmosphere, architecture, results on tinder, walkability, food and restaurants. Loved the exotic factor being from NYC gave me. Making opening SUPER FUCKING EASY. Just need to properly weaponize it by speaking some French. Cute thin brunette girls.
I hated city for... Tiny little shoddy dive bar scene, VERY bad English levels among girls and people in general, BAD French music.. girls weren't anything SUPER special.. just pretty good but not AMAZING or GREAT.
All in all I'd say its a good city to visit if you are a French or even better non-native French speaker. Don't feel like as a native English speaker you are going to get too far. You NEED NEED NEED French to game here effectively. In Germany, Netherlands or Belgium you can cruise enough on English with a language problem here and there. In Lille, France you gotta cross your fingers and hope she speaks English.
I would give Lille, France a "skip it" rating for gaming. The ROI for girls just isnt there.
I didn't think girls there were anything THAT SPECIAL and worth going out of your way for. You could get the same quality of girls in other places in Europe where girls speak English. I wasn't overly impressed by the quality of the girls. Lots of thin, cute and good looking French brunettes.
But nothing you CANT get anywhere else putting in less work.
Not really sure if ill be back.