Quote: (09-24-2016 05:29 AM)Gmac Wrote:
Quote: (09-23-2016 11:54 AM)Irenicus Wrote:
I have been reading OP's initial post, and I agree with him.
While Trump's wall will certainly lower the illegal (!!) immigration, it will not stop it, in the long run. If people really have a motivation to pass it...sooner or later, they will find a way.
You guys are still missing the point! This isn't about reducing illegal immigration to 0%. It's about drastically reducing illegal immigration from its current state which is out of control. The difference between a county jail and a maximum security prison is pretty fucking huge - that's how you should be thinking about this.
The wall and its emboldened border patrol agents will be intimidating. I don't think some of you understand just how effective physical barriers such as walls actually are in the real world.
Gmac, I did not mention that every illegal should be sent to ADX or something. Google "Holot detention facility", and you see how this should be done.
Speaking of walls...let me tell you a hypothetical scenario. You are uneducated, poor as fuck, and desperate. You live in some shithole country. One day, a
coyote (smuggler of people, for those who do not know) comes to you, and tells if you want to emigrate to US (for example). You say yes. He tells you that he can help you go there for 10000$ and promises you, when you reach the US, that:
- You will get a house.
- You will get a car
- Yu will get a job
- You will get a Zooey Deshanel like girl, in her early twenties, who will cowgirl you (and more), every night.
You (being uneducated and desperate, thus easily brainwashed) sell everything, pay the
coyote and...off you go.
Eventually, you reach the Trump wall. Looking at it, and the guards,intimidates you at first. But...it won't stop you.
You want a pussy and a job, and you will not let some stupid wall stand in your way.
Thus, you will find a way. Either a tunnel, or you will try to get a tourist visa (via Open Society or Catholic Church), and come trough.
That scenario was based on real events, by the way. Many migrants were promised the same things I said (money, pussy...) if they reach Europe.
Again, Trump wall (or any wall for that matter) will not suffice, unless there are serious immigration reforms. And idiots like Pope and Palpatine