[Vinny]

(03-31-2017 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

So I just did a Story to see what the analytics were like. I can see the username of every single person who viewed the story! And since it's ordered chronologically, you can roughly estimate the time it was viewed. I can imagine girls reviewing this list carefully to see which guys are thirsting for them.

Can't stop the attention thirst.
It is the same with every video you post, you can each one who viewed it.

That is a great Panini maker BTW

@Edlefou: If you buy followers and likes and manage not to be banned if it is a new account, every photos you post you will have to go and buy new followers and likes, otherwise it would look fake.

Followliker had bunch of other uses as well. Lets say you own a shop in a certain area of the certain city. You can scrape using local geotags and get some attention to your shop. Just an example. Even better scrape the followers of your competition.

This way you can also pipeline for a trip by scraping geotags or female oriented Instagram channels and getting real women to become your followers. Do it well in advance and then just look through your likes and open the girls. Sometimes the girls will open you first if your value is high and album is dope. Happened to me and reported by some of the guys whom I introduced to the FL. FL got me my NY bang, and few night of free accommodation in Manhattan.

So once again my biggest argument against buying followers is simple - fake followers will never suck your penis.

If your account is already matured, you could buy couple thousand followers to jump start the process.

[Sidney Crosby]

Vinny what is your opinion on Private vs open IG accounts, it seems like so many of the accounts have gone private.

[RagnarLothbrok]

(03-31-2017 05:09 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Vinny what is your opinion on Private vs open IG accounts, it seems like so many of the accounts have gone private.

I am not Vinny, but I will chime in:

Private accounts lead to a higher follow-back ratio if you already have a significant amount of followers. People will be impressed that someone with that many followers followed them and will follow back in order to find out more about you. This is especially true for hot girls. Another big advantage is that you can control who gets access to your pictures and who doesn't. It will also make your follower count look more powerful and will make you look less needy.

Biggest disadvantage is that you won't get as much likes on your pictures because you need to accept the follow request of people first before they can even see your pics. Moreover, you can't make use of hashtags if your account is private. Other than that I didn't see any other disadvantages. That's why I usually keep my account private.

[Sidney Crosby]

^ Thanks, it just sucks when you're trying to creep a chick and her IG is private.

[Fury]

(03-31-2017 05:24 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 05:09 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Vinny what is your opinion on Private vs open IG accounts, it seems like so many of the accounts have gone private.

I am not Vinny, but I will chime in:

Private accounts lead to a higher follow-back ratio if you already have a significant amount of followers. People will be impressed that someone with that many followers followed them and will follow back in order to find out more about you. This is especially true for hot girls. Another big advantage is that you can control who gets access to your pictures and who doesn't. It will also make your follower count look more powerful and will make you look less needy.

Biggest disadvantage is that you won't get as much likes on your pictures because you need to accept the follow request of people first before they can even see your pics. Moreover, you can't make use of hashtags if your account is private. Other than that I didn't see any other disadvantages. That's why I usually keep my account private.

Ragnar,

That's good insight. However, I do have one question: how many followers is enough to offset the disadvantages of a private account? I ask because at the moment I only have a few hundred followers (I only had slightly over a hundred a week ago, so thanks for this thread) and having an open account is beneficial at the moment for growing followers. What's the threshold? 1k? 5k?

[RagnarLothbrok]

(04-01-2017 01:35 PM)Fury Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 05:24 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 05:09 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Vinny what is your opinion on Private vs open IG accounts, it seems like so many of the accounts have gone private.

I am not Vinny, but I will chime in:

Private accounts lead to a higher follow-back ratio if you already have a significant amount of followers. People will be impressed that someone with that many followers followed them and will follow back in order to find out more about you. This is especially true for hot girls. Another big advantage is that you can control who gets access to your pictures and who doesn't. It will also make your follower count look more powerful and will make you look less needy.

Biggest disadvantage is that you won't get as much likes on your pictures because you need to accept the follow request of people first before they can even see your pics. Moreover, you can't make use of hashtags if your account is private. Other than that I didn't see any other disadvantages. That's why I usually keep my account private.

Ragnar,

That's good insight. However, I do have one question: how many followers is enough to offset the disadvantages of a private account? I ask because at the moment I only have a few hundred followers (I only had slightly over a hundred a week ago, so thanks for this thread) and having an open account is beneficial at the moment for growing followers. What's the threshold? 1k? 5k?

Difficult to say and it also depends on how good your profile pic is. I switched to a private account after I hit 20k but I am sure that you can already do it after you reach 10k.

[PuaRonin]

Thanks to Vinny for setting up my followliker today and giving me feedback on my instagram account. It was very fast. My instagress subscription is about to run out so it was good timing.

Will be travelling soon and I'm close to becoming lean so hope to fully pimp out my instagram in the coming months.

[whiteknightrises]

Guide to getting free VPS for one year with Amazon (for people who want to run FL remotely and not have to leave PC on 24/7):

http://www.massplanner.com/full-instruct...-vps-year/

Pretty basic since it's free so I'm not sure I'd try running lots of accounts on it.

No affiliation with Massplanner or Amazon

[Thrill Jackson]

Anybody know some cheaper/less time consuming niches to grasp? All I could think of for a guy like me is to get some type of fitness niche since I workout damn near every day. Other than that I'm working/studying 60-70 hours a week.

[Vinny]

(04-03-2017 10:32 AM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  

Anybody know some cheaper/less time consuming niches to grasp? All I could think of for a guy like me is to get some type of fitness niche since I workout damn near every day. Other than that I'm working/studying 60-70 hours a week.

Fitness niche is the worst, travel niche is the best.
Better think about countries where girls like your type and scrape the geotags.
Good luck.

@whiteknightrises: Can you report back after you have set up your FL to work on this VPS?
Massplanner is basically same as followliker except it has re-occurring costs. I am looking into it now because it allows facebook automation too.

@SidneyCrosby: As Ragnar said the profile picture is very important when using private account to grow. It has to be VERY appealing. Benefit of private mode when using automation is that you can grow by just liking photos. I ran experiments, liking 2000 photos and not doing anything else still allowed me to grow 40-50 per day. It is good because with liking only you are not cheating by unfollowing people.
Negative of that method is that if you use IG to close while daygaming, it makes things difficult and it just does not work the same way. You want girls to get on your account and see your value and it is better if there are no additional obstacles in their way.
Also if your settings are aggressive it means you have to manually click 200 times per day to accept follow request, which is at least few minutes lost every day.

In short.
Private: More work, more follows, less likes.
Open: More likes, a bit less follows, no extra work.

With the new IG algorithm when amount of likes decreased drastically I suggest keeping account open and posting rarely so you give each picture time to get more likes.

(04-02-2017 03:41 PM)PuaRonin Wrote:  

Thanks to Vinny for setting up my followliker today and giving me feedback on my instagram account. It was very fast. My instagress subscription is about to run out so it was good timing.
Will be travelling soon and I'm close to becoming lean so hope to fully pimp out my instagram in the coming months.

Was my pleasure. Sit back and enjoy the growth!

(03-31-2017 08:10 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

^ Thanks, it just sucks when you're trying to creep a chick and her IG is private.

Hot chicks use private accounts because when they get featured lurkers come over look at the pics and leave. They want them to follow.

My advice is STOP LOOKING AT YOUR FEED!!!
Be it Instagram or Facebook. There is absolutely no value in it. It is a time killer. Check some accounts you like manually to get ideas for photos etc. Unfollow all the hot bitches (unless you are banging them). They are not as hot in real life anyway (trust me I met a few) it just fucks with your brain. You are growing a cuck in you by admiring a girl you will never bang. It is kind of like porn, only you don't get a sexual gratification. Quit porn, quit consuming social media content. Make your own porn and make people follow you instead. If you have extra time to kill better read RVF

USE SOCIAL MEDIA IN YOUR ADVANTAGE BE A CONTRIBUTOR NOT A CONSUMER!!!

It is actually a benefit and a drawback of growing with automation tools. Your feed gets so polluted you can't look at it anymore.

[CaptainChardonnay]

^Yeah I basically turn FL on and then turn it off every 3 or 5 days.

[whiteknightrises]

Im just using FL not massplanner

Set it up on Amazon VPS (1 account) working fine so far

[Chase]

I created a second IG account that I keep anonymous to experiment. However, it shows me recommendations to follow a bunch of my friends. I did not link this account to my fb, address book or anything, so I wonder how they come up with these connections. My friends will probably get recommendations to follow me, as well.
+++

I came across two good articles:

Beginner’s Guide: How to Build a Killer Instagram Following and Increase Your Sales

http://neilpatel.com/blog/beginners-guid...our-sales/

How to Get 300 Real, Targeted Instagram Followers Per Day

http://neilpatel.com/blog/how-to-get-300...s-per-day/

[Roosh]

(04-05-2017 08:54 AM)Chase Wrote:  

I created a second IG account that I keep anonymous to experiment. However, it shows me recommendations to follow a bunch of my friends. I did not link this account to my fb, address book or anything, so I wonder how they come up with these connections. My friends will probably get recommendations to follow me, as well.
+++

I came across two good articles:

Beginner’s Guide: How to Build a Killer Instagram Following and Increase Your Sales

http://neilpatel.com/blog/beginners-guid...our-sales/

How to Get 300 Real, Targeted Instagram Followers Per Day

http://neilpatel.com/blog/how-to-get-300...s-per-day/

Did you search for these friends, or view accounts that are friends with them?

Do you have FB installed on the phone, and look at these accounts there?

[Chase]

(04-05-2017 09:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Did you search for these friends, or view accounts that are friends with them?
Do you have FB installed on the phone, and look at these accounts there?

I did not actively search for these friends, but I have viewed and added accounts that are friends with them. I have the FB app installed on the phone and use both the IG app and the browser interface on my laptop.

I assume IG suggests followers that are already following similar profiles. They will probably also get recommendations to follow the account with my real name at some point? For the purpose of trying out different strategies it would be cool if you couldn't draw any connections between accounts.

[RagnarLothbrok]

Chase, I made the same observations. Created a new IG on my phone, never connected it to Facebook but it still suggested me to add my Facebook friends and Whatsapp contacts on Instagram. Both Whatsapp and Instagram are owned by Facebook and since a couple of months, Facebook is pushing their users really hard to enter their phone number, which you should of course never do. I believe that Instagram just accesses your Facebook data without having to link your Instagram profile to your Facebook. If you want to be 100% safe, you can try to set up and manage your other Instagram accounts with Bluestacks

Seems as if chapter 6 of the ultimate Instagram datasheet needs to be updated

[Chase]

(04-05-2017 01:05 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Facebook is pushing their users really hard to enter their phone number, which you should of course never do.

I made the mistake of doing that a while ago. Completely idiotic move, I know. Annoying what goes on behind the scenes.

I already have a following, connected my IG to tinder and invested time improving it. Now dabating if I should delete it and spent the time and effort to build it again from scratch. A new account requires either an email or a verified phone number. I tried to delete my email under “edit profile”, but at this point is it already too late. If I change email and phone number to new, anonymous ones, the connection to my old ones will probably remain.

[Chase]

For those of you interested - how to go about opening a completely anonymous Instagram account:
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/com...anonymous/

'Get a different phone - No Home Wifi!
Get a new E-Mail Address from that phone that is not in your home Wifi.
Open the accounts - use Fake name and birthdate and Country etc.
Do not add any of your friends to those accounts.
Disable Location on the new phone.
Don't give the apps any access to anything on the phone.
Be in awe when suddenly there's ads for stuff on the new phone that you googled on the other phone.'
[...]

As soon as you login to an account that is tied to something else your anonymity is over. This counts for all social media, mail and especially your Apple iCloud account.

[RagnarLothbrok]

How to pipeline with Instagram playing the numbers game:

1. Let your automation software unfollow all people that are not on your whitelist until you have fewer than 500 people that you are following. You don't want the girls to see that you are following thousands of other people.

2. Set your profile on private. This will increase the amount of followbacks you will get and need later. If your profile is private, the girls will have more reason to send you a follow request.

3. Stop the automation software completely until you are done with your pipelining process. This is important. If you let your automation run, you might piss off some girls by unfollowing them or by following thousands of other people in a day. Just stop the whole Instagram automation for a couple of days or even a week.

4. Search the RVF for the best bars and clubs in the city you will visit. Then search on Instagram for those places. Go through their follower list and add every halfway decent girl. You don't want to waste your time and open every girl's profile to check if she is good looking. Just add everything that looks like a girl. I also found that doing it on your PC is a lot faster than using your phone. If RVF doesn't deliver enough, just google the name of the city and the word "cafe" or "bar" or "club" and do the same. You can also search directly on Instagram for city name + bar/cafe/club. You want to find those places in a city that attract high quality girls. Another option is to find out which pages the best girls are following to find more girls who are following the same page. Fashion magazines, crossfit gyms, local celebrities (in small countries) are always good bets.

5. Wait and see who followed you back. Since you set your profile to private you will have to accept each follow request. Don't accept those requests immediately. Wait a couple of hours or even a day. You want at least 20 girls who followed you back. Sounds like a lot but if your IG is good, it will take less than an hour to get that many girls following you back.

6. After you accepted the request, it is time to DM those girls. Since they are following you now, they will get a notification as soon as you send them a message. This is the reason why having your profile on private is so important. If they don't follow you, your messages will go into their "message request" folder, they will never get a notification that you even texted them and you won't get any replies. Of course, you can also try to message the girls that didn't follow you back but it is very unlikely that they will even read your message. I found it to be more efficient to play the numbers game and open every girl with the same innocent copy & paste message to weed out the girls who are not interested in you. Usually the message revolves around me traveling to their city in the near future, asking for recommendations on what to do or opinions on the nightlife.

7. Most girls will outright ignore you. Of course it depends on how good your Instagram profile is and what kind of girls you are targeting, but don't expect more than 20% of the girls replying. After all it is a numbers game. On Tinder you also have to swipe a dozen times until you get a decent match in most cities. With those who do reply to you, just proceed with normal text game like you would on any dating app.

8. Repeat steps 4 -7 until you accumulated enough leads

9. Start your automation software again after you came back from your trip. Add all girls you want to stay in touch with to your whitelist so that your software doesn't unfollow them. Let the software unfollow all girls that didn't lead to anything.

[Barron]

Sigh, wish I could give more than one rep... ^^^

Ragnar and Vinny go out of there way to help and keep raising the bar for excellence.

[world_nomad]

This is extremely useful, thanks Ragnar.

I guess the best baseline to compare this sort of IG game to is pipelining via tinder. So questions I have for you are:

1) Are you able to get higher quality women than tinder out on dates? Or is it about the same?

2) How does the time committment compare to tinder pipelining?

3) What other major differences do you find between the IG girls you take out on dates and the tinder girls?

[RagnarLothbrok]

(04-15-2017 01:51 AM)world_nomad Wrote:  

This is extremely useful, thanks Ragnar.

I guess the best baseline to compare this sort of IG game to is pipelining via tinder. So questions I have for you are:

1) Are you able to get higher quality women than tinder out on dates? Or is it about the same?

2) How does the time committment compare to tinder pipelining?

3) What other major differences do you find between the IG girls you take out on dates and the tinder girls?

1) I think it depends a lot on your location and how common IG is in a country. I know that Vinny was very successful with IG in Vietnam (a country with relatively few girls on Tinder and where having 20k followers on IG is already considered good), in Bangkok (a city where every white skin asian has thousands of IG followers) it worked well for me but not significantly better than Tinder (I didn't actively search for and approach girls on IG). Same goes for Central Europe, haven't tried EE yet though. However, my sample size is still not large enough. I mostly use IG for pipelining when I am doing short city trips. I am convinced though, that instagram is very valuable in most pussy paradises because you have access to girls that are not on Tinder. Thanks to Instagram I banged a couple of quality girls in Bangkok that are not on Tinder and that I wouldn't have met otherwise. It's also much more satisfying to know that the girl you banged hasn't yet banged fifty other guys off Tinder.

2) Much more time commitment is needed. Tinder already presents you all available girls and all you have to do is swipe. On Instagram you have to search for the girls first and then hope that they are available. Depending on the city it can take a while to find out where the good girls are. I still need to find a method how you can stumble upon girls without actively looking for them. Maybe set the automation software in a way that it only follows girls from a certain region and then wait which one of them follows you back.

3) Again, my sample size is quite small. I banged fewer than 10 girls off Instagram so far. Tinder probably delivers much better results because it is more efficient. The whole "Instagram as a dating app" thing sounds amazing but people should not overrate it and have more realistic expectations. Instagram is more valuable as a DHV tool for girls you already met in person than it is for approaching strangers.

[RagnarLothbrok]

(04-15-2017 01:36 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 01:51 AM)world_nomad Wrote:  

This is extremely useful, thanks Ragnar.

I guess the best baseline to compare this sort of IG game to is pipelining via tinder. So questions I have for you are:

1) Are you able to get higher quality women than tinder out on dates? Or is it about the same?

2) How does the time committment compare to tinder pipelining?

3) What other major differences do you find between the IG girls you take out on dates and the tinder girls?

3) Again, my sample size is quite small. I banged fewer than 10 girls off Instagram so far. Tinder probably delivers much better results because it is more efficient. The whole "Instagram as a dating app" thing sounds amazing but people should not overrate it and have more realistic expectations. Instagram is more valuable as a DHV tool for girls you already met in person than it is for approaching strangers.

With that being said, I also believe that there is huge potential in IG. If someone had the looks and would take Instagram VERY seriously (= professional photos or photos portraying a high value lifestyle), you could probably build your Instagram to a point, where nobody would doubt your high follower count and you would actually benefit from some kind of Instagram Fame. In my case (and I think in Vinny's as well, correct me if I am wrong), there is a point of diminishing returns. I am at almost 30k followers now but my IG is not that good that the 30k actually look legit. I always get asked by girls why I have so many followers, which I think is not a good sign. It just doesn't look natural any more. However, if I hired a photographer and posted only professional photos from now on, I could probably pass as a part time model (even though I am not that good looking) and all of a sudden the 30k would look real and boost my value a lot.

[tobehero]

^^
Ragnor with 30k+followers how many photos do you have?

[RagnarLothbrok]

(04-15-2017 04:41 PM)tobehero Wrote:  

^^
Ragnor with 30k+followers how many photos do you have?

Only about 60 photos. It doesn't really matter how many photos you have. Of course, if you post high quality content almost every day, you will grow a bit faster but even if you barely post photos, you can grow quite fast.

Creating good content has been my biggest problem so far. I am not a big fan of always taking photos and selfies and self-promoting myself on the internet. Most of the time when I am doing cool stuff I don't even think about taking a photo. I prefer to fully enjoy the moment.