[Engineer]

(06-30-2016 07:22 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  

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But let's suppose for a minute that this young kid did, in fact, make some comment about a plate of brownies with "racial intent." What exactly is the crime here? Beyond thoughtcrime what criminal offense has been committed? And is it a misdemeanor or a felony?

Joe, you problematic shitlord, don't you know hatespeech is much worse than a felony? Your name is at the top of the list for reeducation camps or soylent factories if Hillary is elected, right above the name of the abusive patriarch who raised their kid this way.

On the serious side, I'm curious to know what the kid actually said, which is not mentioned in the article. Let's say extreme case the family are white supremacists, the kid made a tremendously racist and disruptive comment, etc. My opinion is school admins should have at most suspended him for a day for disrupting the learning environment (I know it was a party), but given that it was the last day I'd revise to call the parents and just have him picked up early. If the kid was making a hugely offensive joke, whatever, have him grilled by the principal for a few minutes. Likely a nine-year old is making a joke along the lines of "those brownies look like poop" and the teacher ought to handle that in stride.

I'm 100% for the first amendment and free speech, and against political correctness. But elementary school is for learning, free speech is necessarily curtailed in the classroom, etc. Unfortunately looks like schools are the reeducation camps for a socialist future where everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. Hopefully this kid learns a lesson and applies himself to eventually beating them at their own game.

[Aurini]

Had this black kid who was a complete shit pump during basic training; he was from an upper class Toronto neighbourhood, but constantly played the gangsta card while under-performing and making excuses. As I recall, we tiptoed around the whole race issue, because he was precisely the sort of guy who would pull that car out of the deck.

Eventually he got dealt with, when once of the nicest guys in my section emptied three salmon IMPs on top of his sleeping bag while he was passed out. He woke up to three raccoons duking it out on top of him.

Wait a minute; is "raccoon" a dog whistle?

[EDantes]

Slightly off topic, but apparently Moveon.org is petitioning Obama to change the name of the "white house" claiming it violates the Civil Rights Act.

I literally though of suggesting this as a satire of the radical left, but apparently it's actually for real:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/resolut...7to-rename

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PARENTS should parent.

Parents SHOULD parent.

Parents should PARENT.

[Ghost Tiger]

Joe Warmington Wrote:

TORONTO - “We do work hand-in-hand with these families because we co-parent.” — Waterloo Regional School District Superintendent Gregg Bereznick

So does this mean the kids at school now refer to their teachers as “co-mom” and “co-dad?”

Does the co-parent attend the ballet recitals, hockey practices, help pay the bills, drop them off at the dental appointments and go down to the hospital when a child has a fever, too?

Or do co-parents stop parenting once their union wages end at 3:30 p.m?

What arrogance!

There are so many questions that have been raised out of the Gungate debacle in Kitchener — from the way police strip search people who have committed no crime to the power social services have to go into a home and retrieve a family’s children for absolutely no valid reason.

But now teachers are partners in parenting too?

Don’t the thousands of good teachers reading this feel overworked already?

“It’s a Marxist-Leninist construct that the state will raise the children,” said Charles McVety, president of Canada Family Action Coalition. “It’s a real throwback to the Soviet era. There’s a real chill in the air.”

No matter how it’s spun, and butts are covered, there was no gun and no crime. What there also was a lack of, was the presumption of innocence.

When tiny Neaveh drew a picture of a gun, had school officials talked to her father Jessie Sansone, or his wife Stephanie Squires, there may have not been any need for an arrest, strip search, humiliation and removal by social services of the family’s four children.

But the co-parents appeared to have co-operated with the state to violate every right this family in this free country is entitled to.

It’s the kind of thing you’d expect in a police state.

“It’s a really scary message to parents,” said McVety. “It’s the state interfering with, and superseding, the actual parents is what it is.”

So many parents commented Tuesday — telling their own stories of educators throwing out subtle barbs that can undermine the real parents.

“My daughter was told it was bad that she was the last kid to be picked up,” said one mom, who was not late but just the last car in the pickup line.

“I remember my child at four getting in trouble in class where they had to think of words that rhyme with “un”, like sun, run, fun, bun,” said another real mother. “My daughter said “gun” and the teacher reamed her out for saying a word even though it rhymed. She wished she hadn’t raised her hand.”

The bottom line is teachers are the teachers and parents are parents.

There are good ones and bad ones and all are influential in a child’s rearing.

But there are only one set of parents.

Still Waterloo Regional School district Superintendent Gregg Bereznick told the Sun News Network’s Kris Sims “by co-parent, I’m talking about teachers and parents working together to support children as they grow up. And so those relationships are important to us, and we value them. But we also understand that within that context, it may be required for us to bring forward a disclosure because it is our legal requirement to do so.”

One problem with his theory is in this case there was no co-parenting at all. It was, in fact, substitute parenting since the girl’s actual parents were not consulted to explain in anyway and instead were disgracefully handed over to be bullied by the state.

“What it amounts to is big-union, leftist, big-government telling children that the parents are the enemy,” said McVety.

And sending the message to them that the state-sponsored co-parents are the ones with the true power.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/28/tea...he-parents

[spokepoker]

(07-01-2016 04:51 PM)EDantes Wrote:  

Slightly off topic, but apparently Moveon.org is petitioning Obama to change the name of the "white house" claiming it violates the Civil Rights Act.

I literally though of suggesting this as a satire of the radical left, but apparently it's actually for real:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/resolut...7to-rename

That's hilarious! Gotta get this over to 4chan.

[CactusCat589]

Even if it was racist....

So what?

Racism is not illegal nor should it be. Discrimination is, but just calling someone a nigger or a chink or cracker or kike? Not so.

This is a classic reframe. In mocking the faculty for calling in the cops for being hyper-politically correct, we accept the frame that the only mistake was that they misinterpreted the kid. The next time, the kid will actually mean it, and the cops will come and everyone will shrug and say "Huh, I guess it's a cut and dried case since the kid said [x slur]", since they've moved from the position that cops shouldn't be involved regardless.